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8/31/85 Manor Downs

 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:56 pm    Post subject: 8/31/85 Manor Downs Reply with quote

One: Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo > El Paso ; Dupree's Diamond Blues ; Mexicali Blues > Big River ; Althea ; My Brother Esau ; Jack-A-Roe ; Let It Grow

Two: Terrapin Station > Estimated Prophet > Drums > Space > Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad > Stella Blue > Throwing Stones > Not Fade Away

Encore: She Belongs To Me ; One More Saturday Night

For 1985 this is a very standard setlist but the playing is good. This makes the show very overlooked and it also suffers from coming in the Summer Tour of 85 and on the heels of the tepid performance in Boreal Ridge. The Kermit effect is full bore here.

Despite the negatives, this show has some really good moments in it. The 1/2 Step kicks things off nicely with a couple of good lead runs by Garcia. There is no real transition into El Paso but I don't remember that many El Paso's getting the second slot. The rest of the set is pretty solid with Althea, Esau and Jack-A-Roe all pretty well played. The highlight of the set is a ferocious Let It Grow with a nice intensity in it that wraps the set up in a nice way.

Terrapin is the surprise opener here with a great solo slot in the verses and another good one coming out of them.. Again, really no transition here into Estimated. This Estimated is a monster and kicks off with Healy playing the infamous kissing girl whispering Harvey, Harry or Bobby, take your pick. I've heard no official statement as to who it is and everyone seems to have a different opinion.

Back to the Estimated, This one is long and deep and if you can get past Garcia's horrible backing vocals here of " ewwwww, eeeeeewww, ewwwwww. " you're in for a nice ride. A good middle jam with a solid contribution from Bobby's guitar sets up a nice outro jam. A light sprinkling of Bobby screams might be why I like this Estimated so much. Garcia plays around a little on the out jam hinting at an Eyes but, after 26 mins it time to get off the stage.

Post drums gets going well with a great version of GDTRFB which is white hot. Stella is not a bad version for this time period as I feel they are rushed and souless. This one gets good at the break with Phil dropping a huge bomb in there. As much as I've heard the Throwing Stones>NFA combination it is amazing that I can still get into it. It's versions like this one that just deliver the goods and bring you in.

The greatest performance of the night though is Garcia bringing out She Belongs to Me in the encore slot. He really gets behind this version and delivers one of the better versions they've done. Sat Nite closes the show on an up note.

85 is one of my favorite years and I can easily give reccomendations for many good shows. I don't know what it is about this one that keeps me coming back. I wasn't there, the setlist isn't all that great, there is no soundboard available....I have no clue. It's just a real solid show for the year and I like it. Sometimes you don't need a reason I guess.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the review man. 1985 is one of my top years as well, and I always skip over this one. I will listen to this within a week and follow up.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first set is definitely chocked full of south of the border tunes.
This is a fun and overlooked show, as is the night before in Houston:

08-30-85 Southern Star Amphitheatre, Houston, Tx. (Fri)
1: Jack Straw, Row Jimmy, C. C. Rider, Bird Song> L. L. Rain> Deal
2: Scarlet> Touch, Samson> Drumz> Gimme Some Lovin> Wheel> Other One> Morning Dew E: Sugar Magnolia

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duderino wrote:
The first set is definitely chocked full of south of the border tunes.
This is a fun and overlooked show, as is the night before in Houston:

08-30-85 Southern Star Amphitheatre, Houston, Tx. (Fri)
1: Jack Straw, Row Jimmy, C. C. Rider, Bird Song> L. L. Rain> Deal
2: Scarlet> Touch, Samson> Drumz> Gimme Some Lovin> Wheel> Other One> Morning Dew E: Sugar Magnolia


I was at both shows (Austin and Houston). I always recalled Manor Downs being a better show, but may have been other "factors" involved. Was a great time for me. I was a sophomore in college at the time. I had been a freshman at UT Austin in 1984 and transferred to Emory in Atlanta in 1985. That summer and fall I saw four incredible shows. I was just getting into the Dead. I grew up in Houston and my folks still lived there. Before heading up to Emory, I saw the Southern Star show and then drove to Austin the next day for Manor Downs. A week later, we drove to Boulder to visit a high school buddy at CU and saw the 09/07 show at Red Rocks. Then I went to the 10/28 and 10/29 shows at the Fabulous Fox in Atlanta. Not sure you could find more diverse extremes for settings.

Southern Star was part of Astroworld in Houston (a Six Flags owned amusement park).

Manor Downs is in the infield of a horse racing track.

Red Rocks is ... well ... Red Rocks. Awesome outdoor venue and nature's beauty.

The Fox is an old Opera House that is a great and intimate indoor venue.

All I know is that those five shows in four venues over less than 60 days changed my life in many ways.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love the Shakedown on 9/7/85, that must have been awesome to be at.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

8-31 really does have a nice let it grow.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK got to listen to this one this afternoon....

First Set is very enjoyable, with excellent Jerry tune selections: Dupree's, Althea, Jack-A-Roe! Then super hot noodles in the Let It Grow closer. Second Set, not so much. Decent, but not noteworthy in the context of such a great year 1985.

Weird Healy sound effects a-la 6-14-85 with a female-sounding voice saying "Harry," which was rumored to be a reference to "Harry Popick. Monitor Engineer."
Fun stuff.

1st Set is worth coming back to - nice set. And once you've gone that far might as well ride it out through Terrapin-Estimated: pretty good Prophet. Also pretty good Stella.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swamiGD80s wrote:
OK got to listen to this one this afternoon....

First Set is very enjoyable, with excellent Jerry tune selections: Dupree's, Althea, Jack-A-Roe! Then super hot noodles in the Let It Grow closer. Second Set, not so much. Decent, but not noteworthy in the context of such a great year 1985.

Weird Healy sound effects a-la 6-14-85 with a female-sounding voice saying "Harry," which was rumored to be a reference to "Harry Popick. Monitor Engineer."
Fun stuff.

1st Set is worth coming back to - nice set. And once you've gone that far might as well ride it out through Terrapin-Estimated: pretty good Prophet. Also pretty good Stella.

I always thought she was whispering "bobby"... man...
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a show I've come to appreciate more lately. The Station-Prophet is really excellent; great Brentski. Nice full Estimated jam. It's addictive - good call Lucas!

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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A finely written review as well...
I haven't heard this one in a LONG time, having recently gone through a pretty serious GD hiatus.
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