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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:42 am    Post subject: I'm taking a plunge into 92-93 Reply with quote

I'm going to take a major shift/leap of faith and listen to mostly 92 and 93 this week, probably more 93..
Right now I'm sampling 3/10/93 Rosemont. Checked out Ramble On Rose - awesome. Nice jam in Corrina that leads to MLBJ is on now..
I have a freshly burned AUD of 12/16/92 and will check out 8/21-22/93 (thanks Koch) Listened to 6/11/93 over the weekend. I'll skip 5/26/93 as I listened to that a while ago.

I'm familiar with 3/24/93, 9/20/93 and Deer Creek 92. What other shows (give me 5 or so...) would you recommend?? I think I might check out the 92 Star Lake shows..

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, more 93 to recommend (I don't have many 92s, I rarely listen to it, but 3/5/92 is ok)

Here are 5 or so 93 recommendations, besides what you already heard...

6/23/93 Deer Creek
6/25 & 26/93 w Bruce on Accordian both nights
9/13/93 2nd set rules (I know, Easy Answers out of space kind of bad choice...)
9/22/93 w/ sax
12/19/93 (Jerry's voice may be totally SHOT, but his playing isn't, it's great)
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been hitting these years lately too, some really good stuff to be found. Last night I listened to 6/11/92 at the Knick. Listened to the Music Never Stopped to close set one(was played a little fast and seemed hurried, but was very solid.) I then listened to the pre-drums of Foolish Heart, UJB>PITB.....shit gets my full aproval, Foolish Heart was prime!Likewise, UJB>PITB...can't wait to dig deeper!

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

some really good 92-93 shows not mentioned:

3/2/92 Atlanta

5/21/93 Shoreline

5/23/93 Shoreline

9/10/93 Richfield

12/17/93 Oakland


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys, I'll check these out.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For 92, March, June and December seem the best months to me, with June taking the cake.

I listened to some 9/16/93 at MSG when I got home today. Did the whole show. Some great stuff there. China>Rider, E>E was nice. Way To Go Home came out of space, which might seem... terrible... to some, but it was well played.

Then I listened to the 1st set of 12/17/93... Jack-A-Roe was stellar... hit the 2nd set, and the H>S>F was great. It was a GREAT year for slipknot!, though at times Vince hits his cheese notes in that song.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

love 12/17/93
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:55 am    Post subject: Cal Reply with quote

5/27/93 Cal Expo - heavy in my "rotation"

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:17 am    Post subject: Re: Cal Reply with quote

swamiGD80s wrote:
5/27/93 Cal Expo - heavy in my "rotation"

I was waiting for you to weight in Swami. I think I've listened to 5/27 before a while back. Great setlist!!! Only schwag is Wave to the Wind.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:25 am    Post subject: Re: Cal Reply with quote

Duderino wrote:
Only schwag is Wave to the Wind.


Agreed, probably the worst song of the Welnick era.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So far:
12/16/92 Excellent show. Kick ass GD.
8/21/93. Good first set - 6 songs is always a little short IMO but this is well played. I think Lazy river Road was one of Jerry's better late period songs. Very Elizabeth Cotton-ish. Set 2 CCS>IKYR rages. real good stuff.
Way To Go Home is a shitty song I dont like. I will skip it on all subsequent listens. Truckin>Schoolgirl>Smokestack is snaky and bluesy. Thats as far as I got. Gotta go work out. Jerry's faux-acoustic sound is starting to grow on me.. Shocked

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love that Bird Song on 8/21/93... it was really kind of the Bird Song for me for a long time. Vince's train horn-ish sound (which is also in the China>Rider) is great.

WTGH... yes... it can be lame, but sometimes, particularly in the first efforts, Jerry wails it. The one from 8/21... so so at best.

Did you like Huey Lewis' work on the harmonica in the Truck thru drums?

The post space has a Standing On The Moon that is excellente.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Listening to 9/13/93 after finishing 8/21. Well played stuff, but Jerry is using that acoustic sound too much for my taste. I guess it was a new toy for him, just like he overused the midi at first. But Jer, using the acoustic sound on the end of Bucket just sounds wimpy....Some songs cry out for nasty, overdriven geetar....But I will say his use of that clear quasi acoustic tone shows that he was in full command of his instrument - no disortion or delay or wah to hide behind. Yup, 93 has some good stuff. Scarlet is playing right now Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will agree that some songs just need a harder tone to them... like Bucket. Some don't.

That show is not a hard driven show like 6/23/93... rather it is a beautifully executed show.
And the real meat of that show is the 2nd set.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:58 pm    Post subject: 92-93 Reply with quote

Disclaimer: not all shows from this period are on my "radar," especially 1992. 1993 has much greater depth....

1992 top 10 (in order):

06-08-92 Richfield (one of Vince's finest shows)
03-20-92 Copps Coliseum
05-31-92 Las Vegas
12-16-92 Oakland
06-22-92 Dark Star Lake
03-03-92 Hot-Lanta
06-20-92 RFK (Casey Jones)
03-05-92 Hampton
03-08-92 Cap Centre
06-25-92 Soldier Field

1993 top 15 (in order):

12-19-93 Oakland
09-13-93 Philly
05-27-93 Cal Expo
03-25-93 Chapel Hill
06-23-93 Deer Creek
06-11-93 Buckeye Lake
09-22-93 MSG
12-17-93 Oakland
06-25-93 RFK
09-29-93 Boston Garden
08-21-93 Eugene
08-22-93 Eugene
03-17-93 Cap Centre
05-26-93 Cal Expo
03-27-93 Knickerbocker

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just grabbed 8/21 off the archive. avery good AUD(Jamie Wadell) and now listening to it. DIG IT Exclamation Cool Thanks for the recommendation Koch. Love Standing on the Moon. One of my favorite latter day Dead tunes.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fillmoreeast wrote:
Just grabbed 8/21 off the archive. avery good AUD(Jamie Wadell) and now listening to it. DIG IT Exclamation Cool Thanks for the recommendation Koch. Love Standing on the Moon. One of my favorite latter day Dead tunes.


Glad you like it... it was one of my first bootlegs, I actually bought it as an Italian import bootleg on CDs (the next night too)... it was instrumental to my current love of 93. The SOTM is a nice one, for sure...

My favorite SOTM by the way is from 7/6/90, followed by perhaps the best ever He's Gone>Jam... such an awesome 30 minutes.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, Duderino...
Is your plunge complete? Any thoughts you want to share? I am curious how you took to it, or are currently taking to it?


I did 3/21/93 tonight, the following songs were awesome

Feel Like A Stranger ; West L.A. Fadeaway ;
Queen Jane Approximately ;

Samson And Delilah ; Days Between

Encore Baba O'Riley > Tomorrow Never Knows
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This morning I went on another Days Between spree and listened to the 3/27/93 that Greenfox recommended, it was GREAT. The whole show is great actually. I highly recommend it for anyone looking into the Spring 93 tour.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kochman wrote:
So, Duderino...
Is your plunge complete? Any thoughts you want to share? I am curious how you took to it, or are currently taking to it?


I did 3/21/93 tonight, the following songs were awesome

Feel Like A Stranger ; West L.A. Fadeaway ;
Queen Jane Approximately ;

Samson And Delilah ; Days Between

Encore Baba O'Riley > Tomorrow Never Knows


I'm drying myself off. After my initial foray (4-5 shows??) I think I listened to 1 more since. Cant remember which - maybe 5/27? or one of the Rosemont shows which had a good Ramble On. Right now i'm grooving to 10/5/94 which I will post on completely in a few moments.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you should check out the 6/9/93 show at the Palace in Michigan. i think it's my favorite from 93.

Help On The Way-> Slipknot!-> Franklin's Tower, Little Red Rooster, Loose Lucy, Easy Answers, Bertha

China Cat Sunflower-> I Know You Rider, Women Are Smarter, Wave To The Wind-> Terrapin Station-> Drums-> Jam-> I Need A Miracle-> Wharf Rat-> Around & Around, E: Liberty

great h > s > f, especially franklin's!! wow! and one of the best bertha's i've ever heard. seriously. listen to the last few minutes of wharf rat for a taste of how dialed-in jerry's jamming is this night. also abundantly evident in china > rider.

china > rider and wharf rat are both top-shelf for the era. even wave2the wind sounds decent. the jam out of terrapin is typically brilliant.
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Because I love 93, I will be sure to check this out. 6/11/93 is a damn good show...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:33 pm    Post subject: Spring Tour Reply with quote

Just wanted to bump this thread by mentioning one Spring Tour show from each year whose stock has really risen within the Swami portfolio recently, and why.

1992:

03-02-1992 The Omni, Atlanta, GA. This is a really solid show with a good Audience source available. First Set short but sizzling, picking up steam leading up to an explosive Deal. Second Set starts of in style with China-Rider but features an outstanding Station - Jackhammer Drumz - Space - Other One - Stella sequence. Overall, prime late-Bruce-Era material. The next night is also very good.

1993:

03-25-1993 Dean Smith Center, UNC, Chapel Hill, NC. I have been very high on this show for years, but more for the 2nd Set. Upon re-listen, I am struck by what a rich First Set is also delivered. Jerry gives three ballads (So Many Roads, Lazy River, and FOTD), and the Weir selections are filled with energy. Set Two is among the best of 1993, featuring some of the same highlights from the Atlanta show mentioned above - but of course also a killer Dew. This show is a must listen for anyone unfamiliar, and way better than the more popular 3/24 show in my opinion.

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