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lucasmcain



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 7:35 pm    Post subject: 12/31/71 SOS Reply with quote

I had a partial of this show on cassette and it freakin smokes. The NFA>GDTRFB>NFA was all I had but it was unlabelled at the time. This and a few other tapes I got from an old teacher of mine from school. He had a whole bunch of Reel to Reel tapes that he had all kinds of stuff on. The problem was there were many that were unlabelled. So I had this KILLER filler that I tacked onto my tape that had similar era Dead on it. I think one side had a vinyl record from one of the Filmore's. So I ended up thinking it was from the Filmore West. Well that tape or specifiacally the NFA>GDTRFB>NFA portion somewhere along the line was lost, misplaced or who knows but I have been yearning to hear it again. I think it had been around 20 years since I've heard it last.

Today I decided to search it out and after about 30 mins I found it!!!!!!! I mean this was one of the key recordings that got me into the Dead and had been a longtime companion for many a road trip. I was so pumped to finally get to listen to it again. However, there is a huge problem with the version on Archive though. The recording is waaaay too fast.

It is the only copy currently on the Archive.What a shame as it is a very good quality FM recording. The lineage has it listed as FM > Reel to Reel > Cassette. Those transfers from Reel to Cassette could get weird with the different speeds of both tape formats. The reviews on the Archive are somewhat mixed on this issue. It seeems to me that parts are and parts may not be. The Same Thing for example, sounds on. The NFA segment definately is off. I can't do a side by side comparrison but that part was etched in my head.

So if anyone has this from a different source other than Archive I would love to do a trade. Also I'm not too computer savy but I know there are programs that can do it, I just don't know which ones. Anyone have any experiance doing that kind of thing?

Thanks for any help anyone can give. I've been listening to this show for a little while here and it smokes! It was always fun to hear the different radio folks comment on the shenannigans going on and this one has some pretty good commentary. Some other notes:

The first Big River with Jerry taking lead vocals for a verse

The first Chinatown Shuffle

A rare Same Thing that was last played twice in 66 and 67 and was not played again until 91.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Lucas,

As far as I can tell the FM-lanum source is the only one with a shn id.....I dont see any other aud's or anything. This could have been one of the many that was given to Kieth to learn and never returned....Im not sure but if I remember correctly that was the story with a ton of '71summer>>end of year reels. ....PEace
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lucasmcain



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skobud wrote:
Hey Lucas,

As far as I can tell the FM-lanum source is the only one with a shn id.....I dont see any other aud's or anything. This could have been one of the many that was given to Kieth to learn and never returned....Im not sure but if I remember correctly that was the story with a ton of '71summer>>end of year reels. ....PEace


Thanks scobud. I would think that with it being an FM broadcast that someone, somewhere would have a better recording of this.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found a copy at LL that says source: FMS > reel > dat > cdr
Disc count: 2 shn / 3 audio

I got a reseed and it is coming down now. I'll let you know how the quality is, if you don't grab it before then...

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lucasmcain



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Box! It looks like the same source that is up on the archive. Maybe this version that you are downloading has been corrected. Let me know, thanks.
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light into ashes



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's possible that since your source came from an old reel copy, it has a better (or non-speed-affected) lineage than the Archive copy.
It's worth remembering that what's on the Archive (and any other site) are not the SOURCES, but particular COPIES, and old-timers will remember the speed issues we had in the tape-trading days! Lots of Archive shows were put up from not-so-good copies, and often no better copy has been uploaded since. 12/31/71 seems like one of those.
Late '71 was for a long time a dodgy period since so many shows came from FM broadcasts, some better than others. 12/31/71 is definitely not pristine (check out the Dancing opener for some pretty lousy FM mixing), but I guess all we can do is hope Charlie Miller shares an SBD reel with us someday.
11/17/71 is another great show from an awful FM copy that still hasn't been upgraded.
By the way, as far as we know the only shows given to Keith were from the August '71 tour. He wouldn't have needed any tapes after that!
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nickJ



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd definitely be in line for an upgrade to a cleaner source, but there's a scuzziness to the fm that I dig. The best stoned dj interjections ever, Uncle Bill cursing at the crowd, the naked dudes running around the stage -- somehow, the imperfect transfer/quality just adds to the feeling of chaos. Great, great show.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm glad someone mentioned this show. It is one of my favorites and no one ever seems to refer to it. My favorite Dancing In the Streets , for sure.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes that show always puts a smile on my face.

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