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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:02 am    Post subject: There are no flies on Dead Set Reply with quote

The somewhat maligned Dead Set (well as far as I can gather, anyway) just went round in my player, augmented by the album's worth of 'bonus tracks' from the Beyond Description box set. And I hereby declare that there are no flies on it, or not as many as some might have us think. Highly enjoyable and sounding much better than I recall.

Any naysayers?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I played this album over and over and over when I first got it. Nice performances, and prior to getting many live tapes and without realizing that some of the versions were edited for length, I really dug it. Nothing like that Space>Fire

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This may have been my first "live" dead, other than the bootleg cassettes... pretty cool. I seem to remember liking the Samson & Delilah a ton.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't heard the album in probably 20 years or more, I liked it back when. From what I can gather from the tapes I've grokked the last few years, the band was better before and after this run, not bad during but a little tentative and subdued in comparison to the mind-bendingly hot shows going on around it.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bzfgt wrote:
I haven't heard the album in probably 20 years or more, I liked it back when. From what I can gather from the tapes I've grokked the last few years, the band was better before and after this run, not bad during but a little tentative and subdued in comparison to the mind-bendingly hot shows going on around it.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's actually incredible when you think about it--the band was at a peak (I think), smack dab in the middle of this peak they record 37 shows, and for the duration of having the multi-track recorders on, they are kind of mediocre (with the exception of the acoustic [CENSORED] of course). Naturally there are moments of brilliance and good shows, 10-14 is good, etc.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the saying, they always flub the big ones? Something like that.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I played the [CENSORED] outta Dead Set and Reckoning. Really enjoyed both of them. Went to a few of the shows at RCMH (had 8th row center) Seeing the boys in that setting and playing acoustic sets was a real treat.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bzfgt wrote:
It's actually incredible when you think about it--the band was at a peak (I think), smack dab in the middle of this peak they record 37 shows, and for the duration of having the multi-track recorders on, they are kind of mediocre (with the exception of the acoustic [CENSORED] of course). Naturally there are moments of brilliance and good shows, 10-14 is good, etc.


Keep this in perspective. You have to remember they were playing THREE SETS for two extended runs, so they had to pace themselves and I think the intimacy of the venues and the playing softly during the acoustic sets carried over to a degree into the electric portion. So yes the electric sets in general are a little mellow, and there is not a ton of extended jamming, probably because they had to shift gears because of time constraints and to give the audience a decent number of songs in each set. But the material is well played in general and I know several folks who were lucky to attend 2 to 4 of the RCMH shows, including Halloween, and I recall hearing NO complaints. The Halloween show is actually pretty smokin. There are some other really good nights within those runs as well. They got two excellent live albums out of these runs, so I would not call the runs mediocre.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do call if firmly mediocre... it just doesn't interest me like the bulk of the stuff from this period does.
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