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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:37 am    Post subject: One from '81 and one from '84 Reply with quote

Ok, so Im gonna do it.......All this talk about '81 and '84 has inspired me to try again......Im gonna listen to something from '81 and something from '84.......SO, if you had to be buried with 1 show from '81 and 1 show from '84 what would they be? Koch? Swami? Gopher? Dude? Anyone? I shall put the two shows on my Ipod and give them complete listens at work......Perhaps then I will understand.....LAter
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kochman's picks...

10/19/81 (because it is fresh on my mind)

4/1/84

Enjoy! And, glad to see you giving these a shot!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

7/11/81

10/18/84

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Location Paris, France
Date 10/17/81 - Saturday
One Shakedown Street [13:54] > New Minglewood Blues [7:07] ; Candyman [6:35] ;Me And My Uncle [3:01] > Big River [5:12] ; Althea [4:17#] > Little Red Rooster [7:52] ; Brown Eyed Women [5:52] > Looks Like Rain [8:07] ; Don't Ease Me In [3:10]
Two Truckin' [7:51] > Bird Song [8:59] > Never Trust A Woman [5:#48] ; Estimated Prophet [12:32] > Eyes Of The World [8:40] > Drums [8:#05] > Space [5:59] > Not Fade Away [6:28] > Morning Dew [12:01] > Around And Around [3:51]> One More Saturday Night [4:19]
Encore U.S. Blues [5:18]

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Location Sacramento, CA
Date 6/9/84 - Saturday
One Iko Iko ; Hell In A Bucket ; Loser ; Cassidy ; Dupree's Diamond Blues ; C C Rider ; Deal
Two I Need A Miracle [4:43] > Bertha [6:20] ; Playing In The Band [12:16] > China Doll [5:56] > Jam [6:19] > Drums [7:#00] > Space [7:#34] > Playing In The Band [5:07] > Black Peter [8:58] > Sugar Magnolia (1) [5:10] ; One More Saturday Night [4:25]
Encore Keep Your Day Job [4:10]
Comments (1) no Sunshine Daydream

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

10/28/1984 Berkeley
One Cold Rain And Snow ; My Brother Esau ; Althea ; C C Rider ; Bird Song ; Looks Like Rain > Deal
Two Terrapin Station > Playing In The Band > China Doll > Drums > Space > The Wheel > Throwing Stones > Not Fade Away
Encore It's All Over Now, Baby Blue

The China Doll is amazing!!!

10/06/1981 Rainbow Theater
One Shakedown Street > New Minglewood Blues ; It Must Have Been The Roses ; Little Red Rooster ; Althea ; Me And My Uncle > Mexicali Blues ; Never Trust A Woman ; Cumberland Blues ; Looks Like Rain > Might As Well
Two Man Smart (Woman Smarter) ; High Time ; Estimated Prophet > He's Gone > Drums > Space > The Wheel > Sugar Magnolia > Stella Blue > Good Lovin'
Encore Sunshine Daydream > Brokedown Palace

The space has a Blues For Allah theme in it!!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duderino wrote:
10/18/84

I don't believe I have heard this one... I will have to fix that.


Sko, notice that E81 Fall Tour is well represented here...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent, and thanks....Im gonna listen to all of these and I shall go in chronological order...So first up will be: 7/11/81 and 4/1/84...Ill grab these tonight and start....Im actually lookin forward to this as I have finally tired a little of '73 and '74......It only took 7 months Shocked ....PEace



Edit: I see Goph weighed in(thx bro) and his is earlier at 2/26/81....So it will be 2/26/81 and 4/1/84......Well Allright!


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2/26/81
10/20/84

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do see Fall '81 heavily represented here.....Interesting....
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03-03-81 is probably my favorite show from that year
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone know where I can snag these shows besides LL? I would have to request reseed on almost all of them.....Our internal D/L links for archive keep coming up as problem with file.....Am I doin something wrong? I dont need Lossless, as I am gonna Ipod them anyway.....I cannot stream here at work so just lookin for other options..
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the links here you can only DL the vbr.mp3... you can DL the FLACs only for AUDs.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am trying the vbr's here and getting the message :

Item not available
The item is not available due to issues with the item's content.

I was getting the same at home....Am I doin something wrong?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

skobud wrote:
I am trying the vbr's here and getting the message :

Item not available
The item is not available due to issues with the item's content.

I was getting the same at home....Am I doin something wrong?

Hmmm... that's odd... I will have to try it when I get home today.
Are you using Firefox? And download them all?

I know that IE sometimes can't grab them.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Goto the show you want to d/l on archive.org
2. Look at the URL - change the part where it says 'details' and change it to 'download'. Press enter.
3. Use the DownThemAll feature
4. Only d/l the VBR files.

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Using IE...thats the prob Im sure...Will try tonight with Firefox, thanks...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dogstarz wrote:
10/28/1984 Berkeley
One Cold Rain And Snow ; My Brother Esau ; Althea ; C C Rider ; Bird Song ; Looks Like Rain > Deal
Two Terrapin Station > Playing In The Band > China Doll > Drums > Space > The Wheel > Throwing Stones > Not Fade Away
Encore It's All Over Now, Baby Blue

The China Doll is amazing!!!

10/06/1981 Rainbow Theater
One Shakedown Street > New Minglewood Blues ; It Must Have Been The Roses ; Little Red Rooster ; Althea ; Me And My Uncle > Mexicali Blues ; Never Trust A Woman ; Cumberland Blues ; Looks Like Rain > Might As Well
Two Man Smart (Woman Smarter) ; High Time ; Estimated Prophet > He's Gone > Drums > Space > The Wheel > Sugar Magnolia > Stella Blue > Good Lovin'
Encore Sunshine Daydream > Brokedown Palace

The space has a Blues For Allah theme in it!!

Listened to the 2nd set of 10/28/84 the other day. Deep, dark junky Jer at his finest.
And Koch - 10/18/84 is a really strong show I discovered a few months ago. High intensity level and pretty tight for late 84.

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Gopher wrote:
1. Goto the show you want to d/l on archive.org
2. Look at the URL - change the part where it says 'details' and change it to 'download'. Press enter.
3. Use the DownThemAll feature
4. Only d/l the VBR files.


"DownThemAll" feature?
I don't think everyone has that. I don't. No clue what it is. If I was gonna go Archive backdoor, I'd have to grab each VBR file individually.

skobud wrote:
I see Goph weighed in(thx bro) and his is earlier at 2/26/81....So it will be 2/26/81 and 4/1/84......Well Allright!



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Dude, WAY easier to use DLthemall!

Google it, firefox downloadthemall !!!!

Or, just use the links provided in the GD DL section, in the original post...

You can queue up a whole year in a few minutes, and let it DL over night... very, very, extremely time saving. I believe this is how the Zephyr originally DLed the entire collection...

Not using this technique, if you can help it, is like not using a free boat to go down river because you prefer a slowly leaking intertube... seriously... get downloadthemall, its free...
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Kochman wrote:
Not using this technique, if you can help it, is like not using a free boat to go down river because you prefer a slowly leaking intertube... seriously... get downloadthemall, its free...


Or just download slowly when you want something. I kind of like not having everything. It gives me the feeling that I'm collecting which is what many of did with tapes and then CDR. Yeah, it can be convenient as hell to have it all but.... eh, I'm satisfied with the ability to have it all but I'll take my time collecting it.
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That logic makes no sense... because you have a better tool for downloading doesn't mean you have to download everything. Basically, you are saying you prefer hand sewing when you do sew because the free sewing machine means you have to sew everything... that's not the case... except, in this case, even if you pick individually, the best result you can get is the exact same product as the DLTA would get you... at least with sewing you could potentially do better by hand... Laughing

If you enjoy individually picking each song, as opposed to just selecting every song from a show, well... then I don't know where to begin...
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I also eat rice one rice at a time. What is an individual thing of rice anyway?
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Zoooma wrote:
I also eat rice one rice at a time. What is an individual thing of rice anyway?
Laughing

A piece of rice... like a peace of bread... or type of people... Its always plural...
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I find Europe 81 poor compared to the beginning of the year.
But then there's December

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Oh HELL YES. CC Rider goes double time halfway thru the song (only time this happened). Cumberland > El Paso SMOKES. Bird Song> LIG is incredible to say the least.
2nd set is where it cooks even more. Shakedown > Sailor > Saint with bobby screaming "im gonna fuckin go for it, thats for sure." Solid Big RR Blues, and then BAM, perfection of the band at its finest.
playin > drumsspace> wheel > playin > stella > sugar mags. just exactly perfect. The jamming is excellent, the wheel really rolls into the reprise nicely. Stella is beautiful, especially tonight.

As for 84... 4/13/84 hampton... Just because its one of my favorites. I know you dig primal dead, but check this show OUT. An exemplary source:

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duderino wrote:
dogstarz wrote:
10/28/1984 Berkeley
One Cold Rain And Snow ; My Brother Esau ; Althea ; C C Rider ; Bird Song ; Looks Like Rain > Deal
Two Terrapin Station > Playing In The Band > China Doll > Drums > Space > The Wheel > Throwing Stones > Not Fade Away
Encore It's All Over Now, Baby Blue

The China Doll is amazing!!!

10/06/1981 Rainbow Theater
One Shakedown Street > New Minglewood Blues ; It Must Have Been The Roses ; Little Red Rooster ; Althea ; Me And My Uncle > Mexicali Blues ; Never Trust A Woman ; Cumberland Blues ; Looks Like Rain > Might As Well
Two Man Smart (Woman Smarter) ; High Time ; Estimated Prophet > He's Gone > Drums > Space > The Wheel > Sugar Magnolia > Stella Blue > Good Lovin'
Encore Sunshine Daydream > Brokedown Palace

The space has a Blues For Allah theme in it!!

Listened to the 2nd set of 10/28/84 the other day. Deep, dark junky Jer at his finest.
And Koch - 10/18/84 is a really strong show I discovered a few months ago. High intensity level and pretty tight for late 84.


Some of my favorite 84 for that exact reason Dude. Sometimes the darkness adds something that I can't pinpoint in my personality that I love. Ha Ha
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dogstarz wrote:
Duderino wrote:
dogstarz wrote:
10/28/1984 Berkeley
One Cold Rain And Snow ; My Brother Esau ; Althea ; C C Rider ; Bird Song ; Looks Like Rain > Deal
Two Terrapin Station > Playing In The Band > China Doll > Drums > Space > The Wheel > Throwing Stones > Not Fade Away
Encore It's All Over Now, Baby Blue

The China Doll is amazing!!!


Listened to the 2nd set of 10/28/84 the other day. Deep, dark junky Jer at his finest.


Some of my favorite 84 for that exact reason Dude. Sometimes the darkness adds something that I can't pinpoint in my personality that I love. Ha Ha


I dosed during the break of this show and then, later that night (tho not much later: it was a short 2nd set) I drove thru the rain all the way to the end of the road at Point Reyes. I followed the little road reflectors for 4,753 years. Laughing

My recommendations:

3/10/81
11/2/84 (2nd set, esp.)

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i only gave 11-2-84 a chance a long time ago (relative to my very fast into the immersion of 80s dead) and was not really a super fan. have a feeling if i gave it a spin i would appreciate it.
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Zephyr wrote:
I followed the little road reflectors for 4,753 years. Laughing

Seriously! How many accidents have these little things prevented! Cool
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Skobud, how and why did you select 81 and 84? 73 and 74, along with possibly 76 are my favorite years. However, like you, I decided to take a break and move into listening to stuff through 85. I like some stuff from 81 and 84, but the fall of 79 and the fall of 83 are superior from my perspective so how about considering these. I currently am focusing on 83 and virtually everything from October is really enjoyable to me as are the early November shows. I think that Jerry's guitar sound and tone were better in 83 than 84 and I tend to dislike the Healy effects from 84. Jerry's voice also was better in 83 and Phil reemerged in 83 with a vengence (maybe he started a little earlier).
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I agree that, overall, 83 is a better year than 84 to my damaged ears
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2/26/81
Uptown Theater, Chicago, IL

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Feel Like a Stranger, Althea> Little Red Rooster, Bird Song,
Me and My Uncle>BigRiver, Tennessee Jed, Passenger, Peggy-O, Music Never Stopped

China Cat Sunflower>I Know You Rider, Samson and Delilah, He's Gone>drums>Truckin>'Black Peter>Goin' Down the Road Feelin' Bad>Johnny B. Goode

U.S. Blues


This show surprised me and was very interesting to say the least. I can count on one hand how many ’81 shows I have listened to in the past year or so. Counting this one, makes 3. That being said, on with the show….

Stranger is the strongest I think I have ever heard. I have seen Stranger many times live, and none had the energy this one does. Bobby sounds terrific, I mean really good. So starting with a tremendous bang the show loses momentum instantly with Althea>Rooster. Reminiscent of 5/9/77, the Help/Slip/ Franklins from hell, then mellowing. Then, a really good Bird Song. Jerry all of the sudden really comes to life and takes off on the solo. MAMU>Big River also building off the killer Bird Song. Energy was great, Bobby sounding really strong and Jerry picking his ass of. Here I was starting to think this was gonna be a really good show. Peggy-O played and I could not be happier, everything sounding tight. Then my arch nemesis arrived, being Passenger. I hate this tune. Yes it had energy, but I still hate it. Tennessee was Tennessee, and I started wondering again about this show. The music Never Stopped started and I immediately noticed Brent. Again, I’m thinking as I was during Stranger. As the song progressed it just built so much energy I was in awe. Bang, first set done and what a rollercoaster ride it was.

The second set started with a China>Rider that is good, but not great. Samson is another tune I usually bump immediately, yet I listened to this one. So after the first three tunes I was a little bored again, but I had no idea what was coming next. The best part of the show started next and maintained right through the end. He’s Gone started, and immediately I noticed Brent again. His voice sounded much higher than usual, and he and Jerry worked this one over right into a great jam that transitioned into drums. Nice, real nice. Truckin’ work its way out of Space with someone blowing a whistle or some shit. It starts good and finishes strong with a great transition into Black Peter. Pedro [CENSORED] was on point with Jerry’s vocals just as sad and heavy as they could be. GDTRFB was pure lightning in a bottle. A performance the boys could be proud of. Finishing with Johnny B Goode this was a great second set. US Blues as the encore rounded out the show with a ton of energy.

My thoughts are this is a very good show. I think it could have been a GREAT show with a little different setlist, but that’s just a personal thing. Thanks for the suggestion Goph, I enjoyed the [CENSORED] out of this one. The interplay between the boys was great and the charisma seemed to be there, even if it fell way off at times….I give it Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy and 1/2.....PEace
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The Whistle was Bobby... fucking annoying as hell... he does that until sometime in the 84-85 period I believe... I hate it hate it hate it

The GDTRFB from this period will always be faster paced...

Stranger had great runs in 80, 81, & 84 specifically... so you are in for some good ones... 7/4/81 has a sick one... I almost recommended that show for you...

Glad you liked this show, this was a Gopher recommendation for me too, and I was very pleased with it.
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Cal Expo
6/9/84

I
Iko Iko, Hell In A Bucket, Loser, Cassidy, Dupree's Diamond Blues, CC Rider-> Deal

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I Need A Miracle-> Bertha-> Playin' In The Band-> China Doll-> Drums-> Playin' In The Band-> Black Peter-> Sugar Magnolia-> One More Saturday Night,
E: Day Job


Ill start by saying this show had several cuts and pops and numerous leveling problems throughout the first set. There were also a number of vocal flubs throughout. I realize this can be very common in many shows, and often shows are overlooked because of this. I decided to give this show two complete listens for this reason before reviewing.

The show starts with a good Iko, while not overly energetic it gets things off and running. I always loved Iko, and immediately I noticed Brent. He jumps right in with that effect I describe as a drippy clunk sound. I think Morticia described it as “wooden spoons on milk bottles”. Im not sure if I am describing the same sound from Brent, but its kinda cool. He continued the effect right into Hell in a Bucket, which I thought was a little disjointed. It seems to me Bobby was overanxious and quick during most of the song. Jerry goes right into Loser, which is the first time I think I have heard the “Kermit” sounding vocals. It was good and Cassidy which followed up was better. Then comes Dupree..Ahh this one really irritated me because I love this song. I think Brent completely ruined it. His levels were all over the place for the first few songs, but during this one he plays right on top of Jerry and his vocals. CC Rider is next, which is one of the best I have heard. Jerry uses some far out effect at about the 5 min mark that sounded like a slide mix of plate and sustain. That had to be ear busting live. I have never heard anything like that one before. First set rounded out with an inspired Deal, that left me thinking how good Jerry really was. Everyone knows how fucked up he was during this time, yet he never misses a beat. Remarkable playing by Jerry throughout Set One.

Set two begin with a smokin Miracle into Bertha, which crackled with newfound energy and purpose. I am guessing Swami had me listen to this show due to the strength of the second set. Next was the Playin>China>Drums/Space>Playin Reprise, which was very intense and almost creepy at times. China in the middle of the sandwich had a very different feel to it. I mean it was done like always, but the way it was done and the jams round it were kinda dark. It was almost a little spooky or something. Also, I swear I heard Three Blind Mice at the end of space into Playin Reprise. How wild is that? Anyway, we then melt right into a stellar Black Peter, which I really dug. Out of Peter we blast right into Sugar then Saturday Night. Energy abounds and the Second set closes with a tremendous bang. Encore of Day Job made me happy. What a good time tune, and a great encore. Just as fun as hell, and Jerry really kills it. Great job boys, the Second set was waay better than the first.

I will say that I enjoyed this show, but the sound issues coupled with the disjointed feel made the first set difficult listening. The second set was extremely well done, but not really my style. Ill give it Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy on the strength of the second set. Swamster, tell me a little of what you see in this one....OK, next stop Europe '81(10/19/81 to be exact)........PEace
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe you didn't hear the best source for 6-9-84? I don't remember having any issues with sound quality.

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It has become my favorite ever Playin in the Band....so even though it may not be the "best" show start to finish, having my favorite version of my favorite song would make it a must if had to choose only one - as your thread demanded.

And furthermore, I LOVE dark and spooky 1984. How bout that Drumz/Space?!
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Zephyr wrote:
dogstarz wrote:
Duderino wrote:
dogstarz wrote:
10/28/1984 Berkeley
One Cold Rain And Snow ; My Brother Esau ; Althea ; C C Rider ; Bird Song ; Looks Like Rain > Deal
Two Terrapin Station > Playing In The Band > China Doll > Drums > Space > The Wheel > Throwing Stones > Not Fade Away
Encore It's All Over Now, Baby Blue

The China Doll is amazing!!!


Listened to the 2nd set of 10/28/84 the other day. Deep, dark junky Jer at his finest.


Some of my favorite 84 for that exact reason Dude. Sometimes the darkness adds something that I can't pinpoint in my personality that I love. Ha Ha


I dosed during the break of this show and then, later that night (tho not much later: it was a short 2nd set) I drove thru the rain all the way to the end of the road at Point Reyes. I followed the little road reflectors for 4,753 years. Laughing

My recommendations:

3/10/81
11/2/84 (2nd set, esp.)

That is a funny story!! Dosing during the break is always wise. You start peaking after the show is over...I know where the "end of the road at Point Reyes" is. Jesus Zeph, you must have been dialed in with the driving that night - some serious twists and turns to get there. But what a great place to come down from tripping. Cool

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Maybe you didn't hear the best source for 6-9-84? I don't remember having any issues with sound quality.

Here's my review:

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It has become my favorite ever Playin in the Band....so even though it may not be the "best" show start to finish, having my favorite version of my favorite song would make it a must if had to choose only one - as your thread demanded.

And furthermore, I LOVE dark and spooky 1984. How bout that Drumz/Space?!
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This was my source and I now see it aint the best.

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I definately see what you are talking about, and it is the type of thing Im lookin for. I just really wanted to know what exactly people are digging(not just era or show but parts as well). That Drums Space I will definately give it up for.....Shit was out there, like Pluto.....I mean that whole Playin all the way into to Peter was as creepy as they come.....I actually thought that if I dosed and saw this show live, I would still be talking about how spooky it was. There were several times during the show I thought it got extremely freaky. Shocked Thanks for the suggestion Bro....PEace
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Zephyr wrote:
dogstarz wrote:
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10/28/1984 Berkeley
One Cold Rain And Snow ; My Brother Esau ; Althea ; C C Rider ; Bird Song ; Looks Like Rain > Deal
Two Terrapin Station > Playing In The Band > China Doll > Drums > Space > The Wheel > Throwing Stones > Not Fade Away
Encore It's All Over Now, Baby Blue

The China Doll is amazing!!!


Listened to the 2nd set of 10/28/84 the other day. Deep, dark junky Jer at his finest.


Some of my favorite 84 for that exact reason Dude. Sometimes the darkness adds something that I can't pinpoint in my personality that I love. Ha Ha


I dosed during the break of this show and then, later that night (tho not much later: it was a short 2nd set) I drove thru the rain all the way to the end of the road at Point Reyes. I followed the little road reflectors for 4,753 years. Laughing

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3/10/81
11/2/84 (2nd set, esp.)

That is a funny story!! Dosing during the break is always wise. You start peaking after the show is over...I know where the "end of the road at Point Reyes" is. Jesus Zeph, you must have been dialed in with the driving that night - some serious twists and turns to get there. But what a great place to come down from tripping. Cool


It was like driving from the frenzied MegaUrbanZoneOfSuperHumanStructuredReality to the UntouchedLandOfThe Gods. The Pacific Ocean was crashing in the distance, shrouded both by darkness and dense mist-exuding fog. The parking lot was bordered by a tree trunk larger than any tree trunk ever seen by any human who has not been to the Pacific Northwest. It was comically Elemental.

I'm listening to the Playin' in the Band from this show right now. Phil Lesh is so incredibly good. Jerry was unbelievably blessed to have been the guy who put a bass in Phil's hands and said "Play it." It is probably the most salient cosmic fact, and moment, in the band's entire history. And then the fact that they played together for 30 years! Spoken of as a musical duo, I would nominate their partnership as one of the great musical pairings in 20th-century musical history. Any other nominations?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recently listened to 10-28-84 and it is back in the Top 100 and to stay. This night and 10-30 are actually my favorites of the B.C.T. run even over the more highly-heralded 11-2 and 11-3 shows (which are also great).

Terrapin-Playin-ChinaDoll is just so good.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It was comically Elemental.


I meant to write "It was cosmically Elemental." Laughing

Swami: Yeah, that run up to drums is top-notch. Do you have an opinion on which recording at the Archive is best? I have the SBD/AUD, 21935, but the AUD portion, starting at the 6 minute mark of China Doll, leaves Phil behind.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, to answer my own question, the Charlie Miller/Joani Walker/Paul Scotton AUD sounds great:


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A piece of rice... like a peace of bread... or type of people... Its always plural...


That would be a grain of rice.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swamiGD80s wrote:
I recently listened to 10-28-84 and it is back in the Top 100 and to stay. This night and 10-30 are actually my favorites of the B.C.T. run even over the more highly-heralded 11-2 and 11-3 shows (which are also great).

Terrapin-Playin-ChinaDoll is just so good.

I guess this is a change of your own opinion, as I remember you not really digging 10/30 in particular before...

I like 11/2 the most personally, but the whole run is solid.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zephyr wrote:
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It was comically Elemental.


I meant to write "It was cosmically Elemental." Laughing

Swami: Yeah, that run up to drums is top-notch. Do you have an opinion on which recording at the Archive is best? I have the SBD/AUD, 21935, but the AUD portion, starting at the 6 minute mark of China Doll, leaves Phil behind.

I did this run for the source review guide... so I posted what I thought was best at the time.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After I saw this post, I jumped in and checked out a couple of '84 shows I hadn't listened to in a while (10/17 and 12/31). I wouldn't nominate those two for any "best of" debate, but neither was a disappointment either. The Row Jimmy on the 17th was better than I remembered. This must have been around the time they finally hit a tempo that more suited it than its early '70s incarnations. Seeing how there has been a good deal of discussion regarding 6/9/84 and 10/18/84, I'll probably check those out next.

I also saw 4/1 and 4/14/84 mentioned. I have an affinity for 7/13 and 7/15/84 myself. Anyone got any suggestions not already mentioned in this thread?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Swami: Yeah, that run up to drums is top-notch. Do you have an opinion on which recording at the Archive is best? I have the SBD/AUD, 21935, but the AUD portion, starting at the 6 minute mark of China Doll, leaves Phil behind.

I did this run for the source review guide... so I posted what I thought was best at the time.


I actually forgot to look there.

The partial SBD/AUD is interesting because the AUD is very good, but it's just muddy enough to erase the details of Phil's contributions. Lazy listener that I am, I didn't read the txt for the show and I missed the transition from SBD to AUD, which is buried in the middle of the China Doll track. Thus the whole post-drums portion of the show was really frustrating to listen to because it seemed like Phil had folded his tent during the drum solo. The other AUD recordings, although still not as satisfying as the SBD Terrapin>PITB>C.Doll, at least let you know Phil hadn't packed it in.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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After I saw this post, I jumped in and checked out a couple of '84 shows I hadn't listened to in a while (10/17 and 12/31). I wouldn't nominate those two for any "best of" debate, but neither was a disappointment either. The Row Jimmy on the 17th was better than I remembered. This must have been around the time they finally hit a tempo that more suited it than its early '70s incarnations. Seeing how there has been a good deal of discussion regarding 6/9/84 and 10/18/84, I'll probably check those out next.

I also saw 4/1 and 4/14/84 mentioned. I have an affinity for 7/13 and 7/15/84 myself. Anyone got any suggestions not already mentioned in this thread?

Give 4/16 and 4/17 a listen - 4/16 The whole 1st set, and an amazing He's Gone>jam>Drums>jam (not space but a completely unique jam that turns into an Other One jam)>Other One
4/17 has a hot first set, and a sweet pre-drums with a great Franklins, and a cool transition between Women>Eyes.
6/29/84 Blossom is the schniz.
7/6/84 is one show I give constant props to. The whole show rips.
10/8/84 set 1 and pre-drums is amazing. Terrapin>Samson IJWTMLTY>Caution Jam>Miracle>Jam

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Shocked Some of these acronyms qualify as Crimes Against Humanity.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duderino wrote:
Grateful_nirvanA wrote:
After I saw this post, I jumped in and checked out a couple of '84 shows I hadn't listened to in a while (10/17 and 12/31). I wouldn't nominate those two for any "best of" debate, but neither was a disappointment either. The Row Jimmy on the 17th was better than I remembered. This must have been around the time they finally hit a tempo that more suited it than its early '70s incarnations. Seeing how there has been a good deal of discussion regarding 6/9/84 and 10/18/84, I'll probably check those out next.

I also saw 4/1 and 4/14/84 mentioned. I have an affinity for 7/13 and 7/15/84 myself. Anyone got any suggestions not already mentioned in this thread?

Give 4/16 and 4/17 a listen - 4/16 The whole 1st set, and an amazing He's Gone>jam>Drums>jam (not space but a completely unique jam that turns into an Other One jam)>Other One
4/17 has a hot first set, and a sweet pre-drums with a great Franklins, and a cool transition between Women>Eyes.
6/29/84 Blossom is the schniz.
7/6/84 is one show I give constant props to. The whole show rips.
10/8/84 set 1 and pre-drums is amazing. Terrapin>Samson IJWTMLTY>Caution Jam>Miracle>Jam


Thanks for the recommendations Duderino. I'll give at least one of these babies a spin tonight!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duderino wrote:

Give 4/16 and 4/17 a listen - 4/16 The whole 1st set, and an amazing He's Gone>jam>Drums>jam (not space but a completely unique jam that turns into an Other One jam)>Other One
4/17 has a hot first set, and a sweet pre-drums with a great Franklins, and a cool transition between Women>Eyes.
6/29/84 Blossom is the schniz.
7/6/84 is one show I give constant props to. The whole show rips.
10/8/84 set 1 and pre-drums is amazing. Terrapin>Samson IJWTMLTY>Caution Jam>Miracle>Jam


Okay, so after I got my damn computers working right last night, I got a chance to listen to the first set and pre-drums portion of 7/6/84. Good choice Duderino. This show is pretty damn tasty. You just have to love a show that opens with three rockers! I think what surprised me most were the songs I usually don't care much for, like Mexicali and Ship of Fools. Both of those were better than they would appear from just looking over the set list. The Let It Grow was the perfect choice to close set one. Brent is present throughout the entirety of the show, with great vocal and instrumental support. And the Ship didn't manage to halt the proceedings before drums, which was picked up by a strong Man Smart (Woman Smarter). And thanks to Jim Wise. This is a fine Aud and should not be passed by.
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Grateful_nirvanA wrote:
Duderino wrote:

Give 4/16 and 4/17 a listen - 4/16 The whole 1st set, and an amazing He's Gone>jam>Drums>jam (not space but a completely unique jam that turns into an Other One jam)>Other One
4/17 has a hot first set, and a sweet pre-drums with a great Franklins, and a cool transition between Women>Eyes.
6/29/84 Blossom is the schniz.
7/6/84 is one show I give constant props to. The whole show rips.
10/8/84 set 1 and pre-drums is amazing. Terrapin>Samson IJWTMLTY>Caution Jam>Miracle>Jam


Okay, so after I got my damn computers working right last night, I got a chance to listen to the first set and pre-drums portion of 7/6/84. Good choice Duderino. This show is pretty damn tasty. You just have to love a show that opens with three rockers! I think what surprised me most were the songs I usually don't care much for, like Mexicali and Ship of Fools. Both of those were better than they would appear from just looking over the set list. The Let It Grow was the perfect choice to close set one. Brent is present throughout the entirety of the show, with great vocal and instrumental support. And the Ship didn't manage to halt the proceedings before drums, which was picked up by a strong Man Smart (Woman Smarter). And thanks to Jim Wise. This is a fine Aud and should not be passed by.

Wait till you hear post drums. Shocked the engergizer bunny of Dear Mr. Fantasy's

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yeah, 7/6 is a great show. I didn't know 6/29, which I listened to some of last night. Really tasty Scarlet>Touch, which (in the past) isn't a combo that usually impresses me. Thanks for the recs!
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nickJ wrote:
yeah, 7/6 is a great show. I didn't know 6/29, which I listened to some of last night. Really tasty Scarlet>Touch, which (in the past) isn't a combo that usually impresses me. Thanks for the recs!

Both shows have great, early Dear Mr. Fantasy's where Jerry sings alot more and they jam out. Also 6/29 has a high energy 1st set and if I recall, a great Wheel>Other One

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Wait till you hear post drums. Shocked the engergizer bunny of Dear Mr. Fantasy's


Holy craparino Duderino! You were so right about the 7/6 post drums! That Mr. Fantasy has become my immediate favorite ever version. Jerry takes two monster solos and shares more of the lyrics than he ever did in '88 forward. The Other One after is nice as well. The Peter is a little up tempo for me, but it fits with the rest of the show well. The aborted Around and sudden switch to Sugar Mag make me think Bobby had promised someone before the show that he would do Sugar Mag. He totally just cuts off the Around and forces everyone into Sugar Mag. It made me laugh! The Touch encore is nice too. You can tell people still aren't quite sure what to make of it, but when they get to the jam, it becomes obvious this song will be with them for the rest of the journey.

Thanks again. Duderino's Pick, Vol. 1 worked for me!
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Wait till you hear post drums. Shocked the engergizer bunny of Dear Mr. Fantasy's


Holy craparino Duderino! You were so right about the 7/6 post drums! That Mr. Fantasy has become my immediate favorite ever version. Jerry takes two monster solos and shares more of the lyrics than he ever did in '88 forward. The Other One after is nice as well. The Peter is a little up tempo for me, but it fits with the rest of the show well. The aborted Around and sudden switch to Sugar Mag make me think Bobby had promised someone before the show that he would do Sugar Mag. He totally just cuts off the Around and forces everyone into Sugar Mag. It made me laugh! The Touch encore is nice too. You can tell people still aren't quite sure what to make of it, but when they get to the jam, it becomes obvious this song will be with them for the rest of the journey.

Thanks again. Duderino's Pick, Vol. 1 worked for me!


Okay, so I was rummaging through the CDRs I have from the material that was available for download from the Taper's Section at dead.net for the thread on 4/7/72 and found something super cool....a good portion of this show in pristine SBD!! YEAH!! Jack Straw > Big RR from set one and the entire post-drums sequence! Sweet! If you'd like a copy, just let me know. As I have no idea how to do a post o upload or any such thing, I'll most likely end up mailing you a CDR.
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