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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:58 pm    Post subject: Rap Reply with quote

Some of you may not be surprised to find out that I like (some) rap, that "aggro" music...
Most of it is crap, but... right now I am listening to Public Enemy... those guys were awesome back in the day. Chuck D had a great voice and their raps actually were about more than money, 40s, and bitches.
Other rap acts that I have liked... NWA, Ice Cube, BDP, Eminem, Method Man (generally not a huge fan of Wu-Tang), and of course, Snoop Doggy Dog & Dr. Drizzay.

Who's with me?
And, do the Beastie Boys count as rap?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not surprised Shocked

Not with ya on this Razz

Beastie Boys are not music or rap... Mad

I enjoy rap about as much as someone scraping their fingernails down a chalkboard for hours on end, maybe even less than that. Rolling Eyes

If a person can sing well, then they should sing! Rapping is not singing, unless you are Bob Weir... Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am pretty big fan of rap/hip hop myself. I dig more underground stuff like:
Sage Francis (Song is Crack Pipes/Different) This guy was very intimidating when I met him in ATL.
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Busdriver (Imaginary Places) This is prolly my favorite rapper around right now.
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I think Beastie Boys can be considered as rap or hip hop. Paul's Boutique is all I really have to say when it comes to the Beasties and the question of are they rap ro not.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NWA is the shit

"I'm expressin' with my full capabilities,
And now I'm livin' in correctional facilities,
Cause some don't agree with how I do this.
I get straight, meditate like a Buddhist
I'm droppin' flava, my behaviour is heriditery,
But my technique is very necessary.
Blame it on Ice Cube... Because he says it gets funky
When you got a subject and a predacit.
Add it on a dope beat
And that'll make you think.
Some suckaz just tickle me pink
To my stomache. 'Cause they don't flow like this one.
You know what? I won't hesitate to dis one
Or two before I'm through.
So don't try to sing this!
Some drop science
While I'm droppin' English.
Even if Yella
Makes it a-capella"

"You ain't swift, movin' like a tortoise.
Full of rigor mortis."


Eazy-E is hilarious..

They put up my picture with silence
Cuz my identity by itself causes violence
The E with the criminal behavior
Yeah, I'm a gansta, but still I got flavor

Little did they know that I would be arriving
And then surprising, rocking it from where I been
But it's the E here to take no mistake
To be made in a trade where funky ass records are being played
Fuck the regular, yo, I get better, the
Bitches wanna trick and go stupid for the dick
So I get 'em hot thinking they're gonna get it
As they sit, rubbing their legs like a cricket
To you it may be funny
But there's no type of some beef without money
So slip the C-note and you can choke
On a wind ding ding-a-ling down your throat
Foreplay to me ain't shit
When you spread them, I'm ready, then you can get the dick
Of the Eaze, if you can deal wit the size
But if you can't, parental discretion's advise...


and the music / beats are good too...love me some NWA
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dynamie Hacks, (Boyz in the Hood)
Awesome NWA remake never fails to crack me up.
Can't find a link.

She started talkin' shit, wouldn't cha know
I reached back like a pimp and I slapped the hoe
And her father stood up and he started to shout
So I threw a right cross and knocked his old-ass out.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's my favorite rap of all-time, from Gza of Wu Tang Clan, from "7th Chamber" :

[GZA]

My my my

My Clan is thick like plaster

Bust ya, slash ya

Slit a nigga back like a Dutch Masta Killa

Style jumped off and Killa, Hill-er

I was the thriller in the Ali-Frazier Manilla

I came down with phat tracks that combine and interlock

Like getting smashed by a cinder block

Blaow! Now it's all over

Niggaz seein pink hearts, yellow moons

Orange stars and green clovers




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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swami, I am going to need you to write it phonetically though...

plaster becomes plasta for example.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cowboysth24 wrote:
Dynamie Hacks, (Boyz in the Hood)
Awesome NWA remake never fails to crack me up.
Can't find a link.

She started talkin' shit, wouldn't cha know
I reached back like a pimp and I slapped the hoe
And her father stood up and he started to shout
So I threw a right cross and knocked his old-ass out.


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I used to have that Dynamite Hack album. It was actually really good, or at least I enjoyed it at the time.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Rap Reply with quote

Kochman wrote:
Some of you may not be surprised to find out that I like (some) rap, that "aggro" music...
Most of it is crap, but... right now I am listening to Public Enemy... those guys were awesome back in the day. Chuck D had a great voice and their raps actually were about more than money, 40s, and bitches.
Other rap acts that I have liked... NWA, Ice Cube, BDP, Eminem, Method Man (generally not a huge fan of Wu-Tang), and of course, Snoop Doggy Dog & Dr. Drizzay.

Who's with me?
And, do the Beastie Boys count as rap?


So, when you listen, do you dress like a "yo boy"?? Laughing
I liked Public Enemy and NWA, Beasties..but not much else. I have NWA's Straight Outta Compton on my ipod. Classic and funny. Gansta Gansta and Dope Man are my favorites.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like rap. My favorite rap album is Tical by the Method Man, the sonic landscape in the background that the RZA creates is awesome. Great album to listen to while skateboarding.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boxorain wrote:

Beastie Boys are not music or rap


Im gonnna go ahead and disagree with you about the Beasties....This album


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Shows that they are musicians...It is a completely instrumental album that features Mike D(Mike Diamond) playin the drums, Adrock(Adam Horowitz) on the guitar, and MCA(Adam Yauch) on the Bass. You should check it out, it may change your opinion of what a musician is........Actually, now that I am typing this I am wondering why you would say they are not musicians?


EDIT: How could I forget Pauls Boutique and Check Your Head Shocked ....They play instruments and have been for some time....
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dogstarz wrote:
cowboysth24 wrote:
Dynamie Hacks, (Boyz in the Hood)
Awesome NWA remake never fails to crack me up.
Can't find a link.

She started talkin' shit, wouldn't cha know
I reached back like a pimp and I slapped the hoe
And her father stood up and he started to shout
So I threw a right cross and knocked his old-ass out.


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I used to have that Dynamite Hack album. It was actually really good, or at least I enjoyed it at the time.


Still love it, thanks for the link Dogstarz, and on another note,
I think the Beasties are both rap, and music. They took a chance back when it wasn't so cool to be white boys rappin' and playing instruments.
Still not sure it is, but they def. paved the way for kids like Eminem to gain fame, who's one of my guilty pleasures.

I remeber rockin' Paul Revere and Paul's Boutique on the old dual cassette deck.

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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the most creative, original rap albums ever... truly unique...
The Love Below from Outkasts... (the other album in this 2LP release is not nearly as interesting).

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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kochman wrote:
One of the most creative, original rap albums ever... truly unique...
The Love Below from Outkasts... (the other album in this 2LP release is not nearly as interesting).

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Hey ya, brotha! This is a great album, even the other disc was interesting. You can also tell that Bog Boi was finished with his album first. They were in the realms of breaking up when they did these albums. Big Boi (perhaps knowing he didn't have gold in his hands) waited for Andre to finish his masterpiece before releasing it as a double album.
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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kochman wrote:
One of the most creative, original rap albums ever... truly unique...
The Love Below from Outkasts... (the other album in this 2LP release is not nearly as interesting).

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OutKast is pretty good. Stankonia, Aquemini, and ATLiens are all great albums. I had OutKast on my ipod and was going snowboarding with some friends, and I plugged it in to the stereo. My one friend told me that OutKast was huge in the drug treatment program he had had to attend, very popular with the patients there. For some reason I think of this whenever OutKast is discussed.
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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been listening to a lot of nerdcore lately. This is basically rap music for the suburban nerds.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jay-Z's Blueprint 3 is excellent. I haven't listened to him in a while but he still brings a breath of fresh air. Death To Autotune is my favorite song, where he calls out top 40 rappers who over use autotune. This theme of hating autotune appears through out the entire album.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I won't let this thread die!
I have been on a major old school rap binge recently, and I really wanted to point out one album in particular.

From Boogie Down Productions (BDP), it is called "Edutainment"... and it was pretty ground breaking at the time, as the singer, KRS-1, decided to forgoe his criminal past and rap about things like the suppression of black history, etc. Pretty entertaining album... one of the ones where I can say the entire thing is cool (well, minus one song).

Also listened to the ground breaking "Straight Outta Compton" from NWA.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kochman wrote:
I won't let this thread die!
I have been on a major old school rap binge recently, and I really wanted to point out one album in particular.

From Boogie Down Productions (BDP), it is called "Edutainment"... and it was pretty ground breaking at the time, as the singer, KRS-1, decided to forgoe his criminal past and rap about things like the suppression of black history, etc. Pretty entertaining album... one of the ones where I can say the entire thing is cool (well, minus one song).

Also listened to the ground breaking "Straight Outta Compton" from NWA.


I have gotten a little rap in lately, Eazy Duz It by Eazy E, crude but great album, Ironman by Ghostface Killah, and Bootlegs and B Sides by Ice Cube are three I've listened to all the way through lately.
I had a roommate in college who had that Edutainment album, it had really good bass, his other fav album was The Predator by Ice Cube.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm surprised no one's mentioned Tribe Called Quest or De La. That "school" of hiphop seemed to be big with a lot of heads I knew who "came of age" musically in the early 90's.

Any of y'all know this one?


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Some of his later albums (he's just Common now) pushed the envelope a little too much for the real hiphop headz, but I just dug this one out the other night for the first time in years and was happy to hear how good it still sounded. Laid back, streetwise but not overly braggy rhymes, classic understated jazzy 90's production, just a real nice vibe. I imagine many folks here would dig it. This kinda stuff makes me smile:


I ride the rhythm like a Schwinn bike when in dim light
I use insight to enlight devices hit the skin tight
Words of wisdom wail from my windpipe
Imaginations in flight
I send light, like Ben's kite I've been bright
Get open like on gym nights
And in fights I send rights
Don't hook with skins my friends like
I spend nights up in dykes
In spite I've been indicted as a freak of all trades
I got it made
I bathe in basslines, rinse in riffs, dry in drums
Come from a tribe of bums
Hooked on [CENSORED] and mums
Had to halt with the malt liquor
Cause off the malt liquor I fought niggaz
Now my speech is lost quicker
Cruisin Southside streets with no heat and no sticker
You ak got my back and we don't get no thicker
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to love Tribe... Check the Rhyme was huge when I was in high school. "Low End Theory" and "Peoples Distinctive Travels and Rhythms" (or something like that) were both 100% good albums.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kochman wrote:
I used to love Tribe... Check the Rhyme was huge when I was in high school. "Low End Theory" and "Peoples Distinctive Travels and Rhythms" (or something like that) were both 100% good albums.

De La Soul had a magnificent first effort, 3 Feet High and Risin, and a couple more inspired albums with Prince Paul, and once he left, it wasn't as good.
I like Tribe Called Quest too, "Midnight Marauders" is my fav album by them, they had a really good sound. Amplified by Q Tip was a solid later effort.
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Jurassic 5 "Power In Numbers" is my favorite rap album, bar none. What's Golden is sampled all over the place. It was on Sportscenter for months. I guess, just like DeLaSoul, NWA and the Beastie Boys, I like it when there is more than one MC in the band. Each rapper can be a bit more selective and really deliver when their time comes. A Day At The Races is a prime example of that. Each MC really rocks during their turn at the mic. This album is one of the few rap albums that seems to have a flow from track to track as well. There is a very slow and deliberate build up from the beginning four tracks to A Day At The Races, which is just about as fast as it can possibly be. I put this one on whenever people tell me they hate rap. By the end, because I insist on listening to the whole thing, just like GD jams, most people will at least acknowledge that there is more than just rhyming happening.

These guys have played on the jamband stage too, notably at Bonnaroo. Dave Matthews appeared on a track on their follow up album as well. Unfortunately, too many MCs and the 2 DJ set up of the band led to a feeling of "I can do this on my own" and then led to a partial split. But, for my money, "Power In Numbers" is unbeatable.
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