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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:55 pm    Post subject: the Day Job Project Reply with quote

Since it came up in the Dancin' in the Streets thread. Lets talk about Day Job. I think I remember hearing on ' Tales from the Golden Road, the xm/sirius weekly Dead discussion, that there is a theory that Dick Latvala had about this song. That theory was that if Day Job showed up as the encore of a show......It was a pretty hot show.

Need evidence?
3/28/85 Nassau
6/28/85 Hershey
10/28/85 Fox Theatre
11/1/85 Richmond
3/27/86 Portland

Just a sampling. Chime in here folks. This was just a quick look of the top of my head. I don't have the actualy number that it was done in the encore slot. But this is a good starting point for a disscusion. Post 'em if you know them, or post them if you find a show supporting this theory. Should be interesting.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now, I will say... when put in the encore slot, for those hot as hell shows... it could be a bit upsetting...
11/1/85 is probably the biggest illustration of that.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the ones in bold are IMO "not hot" shows. A few of the others I've never heard but most I would rank as pretty good to hot shows. So, common wisdom tells us that if they played Day Job, it was a good show?? Or maybe Jerry just liked it??

FYI - I saw this lovely ditty 14 times.
my favorite is 10/8/83 - opens Set II
once it got stuck in the encore slot it became torture. Interestingly, 7/1/85 has it as the set ender in set 1.

Date Venue
08-28-82 Oregon Country Fair Site, Veneta, Or.
08-29-82 Seattle Center Memorial Coliseum, Seattle, Wa.
09-09-82 Saenger Performing Arts Center, New Orleans, La.
09-15-82 Capital Centre, Landover, Md.
09-20-82 Madison Square Garden, New York, N.Y.
12-26-82 Oakland Auditorium Arena, Oakland, Ca.
12-31-82 Oakland Auditorium Arena, Oakland, Ca.
09-24-83 Santa Cruz County Fairgrounds, Watsonville, Ca.
10-08-83 Richmond Coliseum, Richmond, Va.
10-11-83 Madison Square Garden, New York, N.Y.
10-14-83 Hartford Civic Center, Hartford, Ct.
10-15-83 Hartford Civic Center, Hartford, Ct.
10-20-83 The Centrum, Worcester, Ma.
10-22-83 Carrier Dome, Syracuse University, Syracuse, N.Y.
10-30-83 Marin County Veterans Auditorium, San Rafael, Ca.
12-30-83 San Francisco Civic Auditorium, San Francisco, Ca.
03-29-84 Marin County Veterans Auditorium, San Rafael, Ca.
04-13-84 Hampton Coliseum, Hampton, Va.
04-16-84 Community War Memorial, Rochester, N.Y.
04-20-84 Civic Convention Hall Auditorium, Philadelphia, Pa.
04-23-84 Veterans Memorial Coliseum, New Haven, Ct.
04-29-84 Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum, Uniondale, N.Y.
05-06-84 Silva Hall, Hult Center, Eugene, Or.
06-09-84 Cal Expo Amphitheatre, Sacramento, Ca.
06-14-84 Red Rocks Amphitheatre, Morrison, Co.
06-23-84 City Island, Harrisburg, Pa.
06-26-84 Merriweather Post Pavilion, Columbia, Md.
06-30-84 Indianapolis Sports Center, Indianapolis, In.
07-03-84 Starlight Theatre, Kansas City, Mo.
07-14-84 Greek Theatre, U. of California, Berkeley, Ca.
07-22-84 County Fairgrounds, Ventura, Ca.
10-06-84 Richmond Coliseum, Richmond, Va.
10-11-84 Augusta Civic Center, Augusta, Me.
10-15-84 Hartford Civic Center, Hartford, Ct.
10-27-84 Berkeley Community Theatre, Berkeley, Ca.
02-18-85 Henry J. Kaiser Convention Center, Oakland, Ca.
03-10-85 Berkeley Community Theatre, Berkeley, Ca.
03-21-85 Hampton Coliseum, Hampton, Va.
03-25-85 Springfield Civic Center Arena, Springfield, Ma.
03-28-85 Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum, Uniondale, N.Y.
04-03-85 Providence Civic Center, Providence, R.I.
04-07-85 The Spectrum, Philadelphia, Pa.
04-27-85 Frost Amphitheatre, Stanford U., Palo Alto, Ca.
06-14-85 Greek Theatre, U. of California, Berkeley, Ca.
06-21-85 Alpine Valley Music Theatre, East Troy, Wi.
06-28-85 Hershey Park Stadium, Hershey, Pa.
07-01-85 Merriweather Post Pavilion, Columbia, Md.
07-14-85 County Fairgrounds, Ventura, Ca.
09-02-85 Zoo Amphitheatre, Oklahoma City, Ok.
09-10-85 Henry J. Kaiser Convention Center, Oakland, Ca.
10-28-85 Fox Theatre, Atlanta, Ga.
11-01-85 Richmond Coliseum, Richmond, Va.
11-16-85 Long Beach Arena, Long Beach, Ca.
02-08-86 Henry J. Kaiser Convention Center, Oakland, Ca.
03-23-86 The Spectrum, Philadelphia, Pa.
03-27-86 Cumberland County Civic Center, Portland, Me.
04-04-86 Hartford Civic Center, Hartford, Ct.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:31 pm    Post subject: tour job Reply with quote

04-13-84 Hampton

First show of the tour, and low and behold Day Job opens Set 1 - how bout them apples!

Hilarious version, as Jerry forgets nearly all of the words...welcome back guys!

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A quick breakdown. It appeared in the encore slot 32 times. It never was paired with another song for a double encore. As I'm not familiar with all 33 versions I have quick notes on what I have a bit of a clue on.

6/26/84: opened set 1 with Casey Jones, post drums= Don't Need Love> Truckin> Wang Dang Doodle>Stella>Around>Good Lovin

10/27/84: six song pre-drums=China>Rider, Women, He's Gone>Wang Dang Doodle>Space>Don't Need Love>

2/18/85: weird combos, Set II, Samson, He's Gone>Spoonful>EYES>GDTRFB>D/S>China Doll>Baby What You Want Me To Do> Sgr Mags

3/10/85. 6 song Set 1 Big RR closes set. Set II open with Samson, Terrapin> Truckin> Smokestack> JAM>D/S>Stella>GDTRFB>Around>Jb Goode. Hot set!

4/3/85 Set II opens with Terrapin, set closes with Throwing Stones> Sgr Mags

4/7/85 Awesome Show...great set both sets, Phil opens with Do it in the Road, Set II Shakedown> Samson, She Belongs to Me, Women>D/S>Gimme Some Lovin>Truckin>Smokestack>Morning Dew>Srg Mags

6/14/85 Good jaming pre drums. Great Jerry songs, Set II Dew>Playin>China Doll>D/S>Truckin>Smokestack> Comes A Time>Sgr Mags

7/14/85 Long pre drums..China>Rider, Samson>Ship of Fools, Estimated>Eyes>D/S>Truckin> Smokestack> Black Peter>Throwing Stones >NFA


11/16/85 Set II opens with Tenn Jed> Cumberland>Miracle> Cray Fingers

3/23/86 Set 1 Gimme Some Lovin>Deal, Hand Jive ( first time played) to open the show.

3/27/86 Only Hamstrung,



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That's 11 of the 32. These are just shows I'm familiar with and which have that little something that makes the show somewhat noteworthy for either setlist, placement, or just in general a solid show. If anyone has some knowledge on these either add a yea, or a nay. Dude debunked what he thought were shows that were NOT up to par. Those have been scratched off the list as well as the first shows on the original post. So if you catch a Day Job in the encore slot, please add your thoughts.

2/8/86 Kaiser
9/10/85 Kaiser
9/2/85 Oakland
7/1/85 Merriweather
4/27/85 Frost
3/25/85 Springfield
3/21/85 Hampton
10/11/84 Augusta
10/6/84 Ventura
7/14/84 Greek
7/3/84 Kansas
6/30/84 Indy
6/9/84 Cal Expo
5/6/84 Eugene
4/23/84/New Haven
4/20/84 Philly


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, the question is... is Day Job the victim or the crime?
Meaning... was Day Job included as part of a hot set/show? Or was it merely performed in a period of hot set/shows?

I know which one I am going with...
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah you thought it went away didn't you?

9/2/85 Oklahoma Zoo Ampitheater

I can find nothing good to say about this show. Seriously I've, seen prison rapes that were done with more passion and attention to detail than this show.

Iko and Women in the same show!!! Ugh......... Tepid perfromance. A show that gives 85 a bad name.

Strike against the theory.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lucasmcain wrote:
Ah you thought it went away didn't you?

9/2/85 Oklahoma Zoo Ampitheater

I can find nothing good to say about this show. Seriously I've, seen prison rapes that were done with more passion and attention to detail than this show.

Iko and Women in the same show!!! Ugh......... Tepid perfromance. A show that gives 85 a bad name.

Strike against the theory.

lucas lucas lucas. Have you been smokin crack?? This show rocks!!!!
Iko and Women in the same show is redundant I agree (and maybe you dont like those tunes) but the show is smokin IMO. Well played, interesting song placements (Mama>MAMU???) Stagger Lee, a crushing Bucket to end the 1st set, a super gooey Playin, nice China Doll. I think this one is a hidden 85 gem - its been on my ipod for a long time.

BTW, to get back to the Day Job theory - I am listening to 6/26/84 (lucky to have caught it live) Damn. Smokin show. A little sloppy at points, but high energy. High on Cocaine indeed. The China>Rider just finished up. Killer version. Uh oh Women is next. better hit skip..(seriously I am, I've heard this song too much in the past few days)..... Laughing
Bob's intro to Women 6/26/84 " Same old story, its sad but true, and if you don't know it, I got news for you" silly man.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lucasmcain wrote:
A quick breakdown. It appeared in the encore slot 32 times. It never was paired with another song for a double encore. As I'm not familiar with all 33 versions I have quick notes on what I have a bit of a clue on.

6/26/84: opened set 1 with Casey Jones, post drums= Don't Need Love> Truckin> Wang Dang Doodle>Stella>Around>Good Lovin

10/27/84: six song pre-drums=China>Rider, Women, He's Gone>Wang Dang Doodle>Space>Don't Need Love>

2/18/85: weird combos, Set II, Samson, He's Gone>Spoonful>EYES>GDTRFB>D/S>China Doll>Baby What You Want Me To Do> Sgr Mags

3/10/85. 6 song Set 1 Big RR closes set. Set II open with Samson, Terrapin> Truckin> Smokestack> JAM>D/S>Stella>GDTRFB>Around>Jb Goode. Hot set!

4/3/85 Set II opens with Terrapin, set closes with Throwing Stones> Sgr Mags

4/7/85 Awesome Show...great set both sets, Phil opens with Do it in the Road, Set II Shakedown> Samson, She Belongs to Me, Women>D/S>Gimme Some Lovin>Truckin>Smokestack>Morning Dew>Srg Mags

6/14/85 Good jaming pre drums. Great Jerry songs, Set II Dew>Playin>China Doll>D/S>Truckin>Smokestack> Comes A Time>Sgr Mags

7/14/85 Long pre drums..China>Rider, Samson>Ship of Fools, Estimated>Eyes>D/S>Truckin> Smokestack> Black Peter>Throwing Stones >NFA


11/16/85 Set II opens with Tenn Jed> Cumberland>Miracle> Cray Fingers

3/23/86 Set 1 Gimme Some Lovin>Deal, Hand Jive ( first time played) to open the show.

3/27/86 Only Hamstrung,



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That's 11 of the 32. These are just shows I'm familiar with and which have that little something that makes the show somewhat noteworthy for either setlist, placement, or just in general a solid show. If anyone has some knowledge on these either add a yea, or a nay. Dude debunked what he thought were shows that were NOT up to par. Those have been scratched off the list as well as the first shows on the original post. So if you catch a Day Job in the encore slot, please add your thoughts.

2/8/86 Kaiser
9/10/85 Kaiser
9/2/85 Oakland
7/1/85 Merriweather
4/27/85 Frost
3/25/85 Springfield
3/21/85 Hampton
10/11/84 Augusta
10/6/84 Ventura
7/14/84 Greek
7/3/84 Kansas
6/30/84 Indy
6/9/84 Cal Expo
5/6/84 Eugene
4/23/84/New Haven

FYI, they didnt encore with Day Job on 7/1/85 - it closed the first set - LIG>Day Job

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not budging here Dude. This show FAR from rocks! Sloppy, sloppy sloppy. The China>Rider misses hard. Women as we know was played in the first set when it was Aiko. I was hoping that the Playin would get going but Garcia is in another world and not listening.

Evidence? As the jam melts down you can clearly hear Brent move into a Don't Need Love theme and Jerry just keeps piling the noodles on the plate. Brent lays back and follows him into a little melt down, then as it peters out Brent tries again. Phil joins him and Jerry just ignores the whole thing. After a few seconds you can almost hear what sounds like Brent just pounding the keys and giving up as the drummers take over.

Post Space was just flat. Miracle was meh.....China Doll just sounds like they are running thru it. And Bobby's rap in Good Lovin?????????????? " you get my cheez boy? "

Anyway, glad you liked it though. I'll be happy to put it up to a vote. I'm trying to confirm the theory so the more shows that prove it the better. My vote goes against this theory but I'll bow to the majority.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with Dave here - good show. Full setlist, well-played, well-jammed. I don't remember Jerry being AWAL in Playin at all Confused . Ain't der some good noodles in der?

Oh and if you're counting Stagger Lee - Iko Iko as a strike AGAINST this show, count me out there too.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok I need a at least one more yeah or nay for 9/2/85.

Finished 9/10/85 Kaiser this morning. Now this show is a little bit of a mirror and I'll explain. Stagger Lee shows up in both set 1s and I think it is better played here. The real mirror comes in the post Eyes jam. Here Brent clearly is making moves towards Good Times Blues and makes it stick. In 9/2/85 he made a similar play but I thought it was bending towards Don't Need Love. Check it out it is a very similar themes he hits on the keys.

Jerry and Phil leave and you get some nice solo Bobby work. HOWEVER this is an absolute trainwreck. I have no idea what they are trying to accomplish as the drummers, Brent and Bobby are all on different pages. The vocals come fast and are not well timed, the drummers are not in sync and Bob is not really playing a rythem. The result is a few minutes of WTF! Luckily Brent seems to catch on and by the start of the third verse the song comes together. Sloppy yes, but kind of a little bonus.

Now the post drums starts off like 9/2 with a China Doll and this one, to me at least, is a lot stronger version. A Sugar Mag tease turns into a fast paced GDTRFB which gets rockin. Around followed by the Sugar Mags proper ends the set on a high note.

I will easily take this show over the 9/2 as I think this delivers a more potent punch and definately a more rocking set. This show has a little something extra that hits in GDTRFB, which leads me to say that this show fits the theory.

I don't mean to review these shows in this much detail, but the two of these are deserving as they were played close together and have some similarites.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

3/25/85 Springfield, Ma

Set 1

Jack Straw
Sugaree
Little Red Rooster
Bird Song
It's All Over Now
ItMust Have Been The Roses
Let It Grow

Set 2

Help On The Way ->
Slipknot! ->
Franklin's Tower
Estimated Prophet ->
Eyes Of TheWorld ->
Drums ->
Space ->
I Need A Miracle ->
China Doll ->
Goin' Down The RoadFeeling Bad ->
Good Lovin'

Encore
Keep Your Day Job

Score another for the theory. A very very good show. This one comes out of the gates fast as Jack Straw is played almost a too fast . Nice but fast. The pace continues into Sugaree. It's a solid version and Jerry is tearing it up and down the neck of his guitar. Highlight of the first set is a smoking Let It Grow, which can be put on the very good to outstanding shelf.

The second set looks REALLY good on paper and delivers on all fronts.. Anytime you can get a Franklin's and an Eyes in the same set you know it's dancing time. The whole set kicks ass and the energy transfers well to tape ( or digital stuff....whatever we call it these days.) The highlights are the entire set. Just good stuff all around. Drums even goes into some interesting places with Mickey banging on his baliphone which saw a lot of stage time in 85.

The one major problem and it is major one is a very annoying ringing sound that appears and disappears throughout the set and makes Estimated pretty much unlistenable. The problem intrenched itself in the PA as well as you can hear it on the Aud. Really a shame because this is one of those times that you can't ignore the problem. It is way too present. It goes away after Estimated and this shouldn't keep you from checking this show out.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I almost hosted this show at an LP, but my test listen turned up that squelch you mention... it is pretty bad at times (not most of the show), and yes, was in the AUDs as well as the SBDs... too bad.

Fire the sound man.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lucasmcain wrote:
3/25/85 Springfield, Ma

Set 1

Jack Straw
Sugaree
Little Red Rooster
Bird Song
It's All Over Now
ItMust Have Been The Roses
Let It Grow

Set 2

Help On The Way ->
Slipknot! ->
Franklin's Tower
Estimated Prophet ->
Eyes Of TheWorld ->
Drums ->
Space ->
I Need A Miracle ->
China Doll ->
Goin' Down The RoadFeeling Bad ->
Good Lovin'

Encore
Keep Your Day Job

Score another for the theory. A very very good show. This one comes out of the gates fast as Jack Straw is played almost a too fast . Nice but fast. The pace continues into Sugaree. It's a solid version and Jerry is tearing it up and down the neck of his guitar. Highlight of the first set is a smoking Let It Grow, which can be put on the very good to outstanding shelf.

The second set looks REALLY good on paper and delivers on all fronts.. Anytime you can get a Franklin's and an Eyes in the same set you know it's dancing time. The whole set kicks ass and the energy transfers well to tape ( or digital stuff....whatever we call it these days.) The highlights are the entire set. Just good stuff all around. Drums even goes into some interesting places with Mickey banging on his baliphone which saw a lot of stage time in 85.

The one major problem and it is major one is a very annoying ringing sound that appears and disappears throughout the set and makes Estimated pretty much unlistenable. The problem intrenched itself in the PA as well as you can hear it on the Aud. Really a shame because this is one of those times that you can't ignore the problem. It is way too present. It goes away after Estimated and this shouldn't keep you from checking this show out.

Are you listening to the SBD?? The speed is a problem with the source. Its pitched too high. The AUD's are better bets. I was at this show - one of my all time favorites. Great little hockey rink in the middle of bustling downtown Springfield. I didnt even give a crap they played "Blow Job" because the rest of the show was so intense. Yeah, that weird high pitched noise that comes and goes during pre-drums is annoying.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried both the board source and the aud and it came thru on both. Too bad as the Estimated is killer.
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Yeah i know the noise still comes through, but the SBD is pitched slightly high. They were tearing it up that night, but not as fast as the SBD would suggest. There might be a pitched corrected version but I havent checked it out.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok I'm pitching a formal protest to the Cap'n!

The Scarlet> Fire>Playin Project and the Dark Star project get a sticky, but the sad little underdog Day Job Project get's no love!!!!!!!!!!???????????

Just because everyone hates the song this thread gets pushed aside!!!!!! For shame, for Shame!!!!! Vengeance shall be mine. hARRR HARRR HARRR!!!!!!!


I will bump this SOB thread everyday until it's righteous place on the parthenon that is the top of the board sticky, is achieved.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lucasmcain wrote:
Ok I'm pitching a formal protest to the Cap'n!

The Scarlet> Fire>Playin Project and the Dark Star project get a sticky, but the sad little underdog Day Job Project get's no love!!!!!!!!!!???????????

Just because everyone hates the song this thread gets pushed aside!!!!!! For shame, for Shame!!!!! Vengeance shall be mine. hARRR HARRR HARRR!!!!!!!


I will bump this SOB thread everyday until it's righteous place on the parthenon that is the top of the board sticky, is achieved.

Laughing Laughing Laughing
.You know, I was actually waiting for you to say something!
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I knew the DS sticky would be the one that set you off...

but you aren't actually reviewing the songs... do that, and you got yourself a sticky.
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Don't make me pull out a Brother Esau Project!! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lucasmcain wrote:
Don't make me pull out a Brother Esau Project!! Very Happy


That would be a lot cooler actually. Love the Esau, that hairy man. Definitely a lot more variation in the quality of Esaus too...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Day Job has grown on me like a fungus.

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3//3/85

One: Hell In A Bucket ; Sugaree ; Me And My Uncle > Mexicali Blues ; Ramble On Rose ; Down In The Bottom > I Ain't Superstitious ; Row Jimmy ; Let It Grow


Two: Terrapin Station > Man Smart (Woman Smarter) ; Ship Of Fools ; Truckin' > Spoonful > Drums > Space > Wharf Rat > Throwing Stones > Sugar Magnolia
Encore: Keep Your Day Job

Another good show. Not smoking but well played. The setlist is a little calm for 85 standards. Bucket>Sugaree gets things off to a nice start. Terrapin to open the second set is always nice but a little momentum is lost wth Women>Ship. Weirdness happens in Throwing Stones as Jerry starts Sugar Magnolia instead of a NFA or Lovelight. He sticks the the tune even as Bob and Brent are trying to finish their parts. Wish they had done this more often as it is a welcome change-up. This helps blast the show wide open causing Day Job to come in and easily mop up the remains. Good Show!
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lucasmcain wrote:
3//3/85

One: Hell In A Bucket ; Sugaree ; Me And My Uncle > Mexicali Blues ; Ramble On Rose ; Down In The Bottom > I Ain't Superstitious ; Row Jimmy ; Let It Grow


Two: Terrapin Station > Man Smart (Woman Smarter) ; Ship Of Fools ; Truckin' > Spoonful > Drums > Space > Wharf Rat > Throwing Stones > Sugar Magnolia
Encore: Keep Your Day Job

Another good show. Not smoking but well played. The setlist is a little calm for 85 standards. Bucket>Sugaree gets things off to a nice start. Terrapin to open the second set is always nice but a little momentum is lost wth Women>Ship. Weirdness happens in Throwing Stones as Jerry starts Sugar Magnolia instead of a NFA or Lovelight. He sticks the the tune even as Bob and Brent are trying to finish their parts. Wish they had done this more often as it is a welcome change-up. This helps blast the show wide open causing Day Job to come in and easily mop up the remains. Good Show!


Great show- I was in attendance but had a terrible cold, which caused me to sell my tix for the next night Sad The Throwin Stones is really fast paced as is the Sugar Mag. Yeah that segue is cool. As I recall the LIG and Bucket>Sugaree are smokin. Row Jimmy is a good version too.

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5/6/84 Silva Hall. Eugene Oregon

Uncle John's Band > Samson And Delilah ; Ship Of Fools ; Playing In The Band > China Doll > Drums > Space > Truckin' > Spoonful > Black Peter > Around And Around > Playing In The Band

Encore Keep Your Day Job

" The [CENSORED] Version of Day Job" Sounds like Phil says while they tune up. What it means is anyone's guess. Very nice second set. Truckin>Spoonful>Black Peter are really well played. The segue from Around into Playin reprise is sloppy. This Day Job lacks some of the punch of the 85's and 86's. Good show all around.
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So cool that you're doing a Day Job project, man. Who does that? It's an inspiration.
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Thanks! Glad I can inspire folks . Follow me to the camp! Salvation awaits!
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what was the dead about, after all, if not for pushing the boundaries of what was artistically possible/tolerable?
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Arrow ok then how about...

Dark Star as an ENCORE?!? I guarantee you that 100% of the time when DS closes the show, it's a hot show. Rolling Eyes

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7/13/84 had a Dark Star as the encore... quite the oddity.
I haven't listened to the entire show.
This show also featured the 2nd S>Touch>Fire (the S>Touch is great, but the Fire is lacking...), the 1st being 7/3/84? I think... Whichever the first one was, it was a better S>Touch>F
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I don't like that Dark Star all that much actually. As I recall, it's sort of sloppy or something. Still cool though as an encore.
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First off that Dark Star is a Birdsong. And second.......GET THIS DARK STAR CRAP ON THE DARK STAR THREAD DAMMIT!!!!!!!

Focus people. Focus.
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What were we talking about Question Wink
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First off that Dark Star is a Birdsong. And second.......GET THIS DARK STAR CRAP ON THE DARK STAR THREAD DAMMIT!!!!!!!

Focus people. Focus.


Bird song, yeah. that's a good one.

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lucasmcain wrote:
First off that Dark Star is a Birdsong. And second.......GET THIS DARK STAR CRAP ON THE DARK STAR THREAD DAMMIT!!!!!!!

Focus people. Focus.


Bird song, yeah. that's a good one.

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I would prefer my man Lee Van Cleef's whisky in the background. But considering all hell is about to break loose in that scene I might opt to leave that bar for awhile and get back to my DAY JOB!
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Theory #2:

Those with an actual "day job" tend to like the song "Day Job" better than those who don't.

Maybe due to Wednesday-afternoon-at-the-office-like anthemocity of the lyrics, or the eternal optimism and irony of a man who never held a day job singing about the trials and tribulations of real life. Meanwhile the psychology of the night-job, flex-hour job, sole-proprietor, unemployed, or dependent individual would be one of resentment towards Jerry's perceived demand that they "get a real job" or something like that.

Anecdotal supporting evidence of theory 2:

The phrase "keep your day job" has a connotation that the party whom the phrase is directed towards is lacking in skill in whatever it is that they had just attempted. For example, a drunken karaoke singer may very well return to their table of friends only to hear "keep your day job" used as a zinger.

Thus the Deadhead without a "day job" might impose this contextual meaning onto Jerry's lyrics, and conclude that Jerry is casting a dispersion on their lifestyle as being unsuccessful or unsatisfactory. Such a conclusion could emotional preclude this group from actually enjoying the song based on it's own merits (catchiness, energy, etc...).


Anyhow, fun thread.

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Nice addition Swami ! Very Happy Never even thought about going into the meaning of the song. Thanks.
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I have only one correction to what Swami said...
Jerry did have at least one day job... with long hours...

The US Army.
He received basic training at Fort Ord (where I once lived, that backs up to... Laguna Seca!).
Garcia was given a general discharge on December 14, 1960.
Note, a "General" discharge is a bad mark on your record... not that Jerry needed to worry about it. Cool


I agree with Swami's theory though. Those feeling condemned were probably inclined not to like it as much. Perhaps the same can be said for Victim or the Crime.
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I agree with Swami's theory though. Those feeling condemned were probably inclined not to like it as much. Perhaps the same can be said for Victim or the Crime.


Perhaps. The difference is that Day Job seems directed at the audience, while Victim could also be interpreted to be directed at certain members of the band. Not saying that either one actually is, just that people probably thought that.
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10/11/84 Augusta Civic Center, Augusta, Me


Set 1

Shakedown Street
Greatest Story Ever Told
Peggy-O
Mama Tried ->
Big River
Ramble On Rose
Looks Like Rain ->
Might As Well

Set 2

Hell In A Bucket ->
Touch Of Grey
Man Smart (Woman Smarter)
Ship Of Fools
Playing In The Band ->
Drums ->
Space ->
Dear Mr. Fantasy ->
Black Peter ->
Sugar Magnolia

Encore
Keep Your Day Job

Well this one does NOT fall into the theory. This is not a bad show at all, but it is far from White Hot. There are some very good moments here. Notably Playin which goes deep and gets downright angry for a few minutes. Maybe that is why they didn't get to finishing it this night and saved it for night 2. The Mr. Fantasy is the highlight of the show here. It was still fresh at this time with Jerry and Brent tackling the vocals. There is a good extra solo thrown in for good measure. Black Peter is also nice with Jerry digging deep to put some of that dark 84 feel to the tune. Sugar Mags is kind of meh! It just never really takes off.

This Day job was definately a throw away. This is why this song was hated so much as it is given such a tired, boring and uninspired workout that even I was contemplating taking off my headphones and heading to the bathroom to beat the imaginary crowd.
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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10/11/84 Augusta Civic Center, Augusta, Me


Set 1

Shakedown Street
Greatest Story Ever Told
Peggy-O
Mama Tried ->
Big River
Ramble On Rose
Looks Like Rain ->
Might As Well

Set 2

Hell In A Bucket ->
Touch Of Grey
Man Smart (Woman Smarter)
Ship Of Fools
Playing In The Band ->
Drums ->
Space ->
Dear Mr. Fantasy ->
Black Peter ->
Sugar Magnolia

Encore
Keep Your Day Job

Well this one does NOT fall into the theory. This is not a bad show at all, but it is far from White Hot. There are some very good moments here. Notably Playin which goes deep and gets downright angry for a few minutes. Maybe that is why they didn't get to finishing it this night and saved it for night 2. The Mr. Fantasy is the highlight of the show here. It was still fresh at this time with Jerry and Brent tackling the vocals. There is a good extra solo thrown in for good measure. Black Peter is also nice with Jerry digging deep to put some of that dark 84 feel to the tune. Sugar Mags is kind of meh! It just never really takes off.

This Day job was definately a throw away. This is why this song was hated so much as it is given such a tired, boring and uninspired workout that even I was contemplating taking off my headphones and heading to the bathroom to beat the imaginary crowd.


Yeah, this show starts off smoking (once Jerry finishes mumbling through the SS verses) but kind of dies at the end. I have the same perception of the Sugar Mag as you - its just...there..I mostly listen to the first set of this one. GSET smokes

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2/18/85 Kaiser Convention Center, Oakland, Ca


Iko Iko
C C Rider
Dire Wolf
Cassidy
Ramble On Rose
Me And My Uncle >
Mexicali Blues
China Cat Sunflower >
I Know You Rider

Set II:

Samson And Delilah
He's Gone >
Spoonful >
Eyes Of The World >
Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad >
Drums >
Space >
China Doll >
Baby What You Want Me to Do* >
Sugar Magnolia

Encore:
Keep Your Day Job

This show rocks! Nice China/Rider to close the 1st set. Set 2 is strong from front to end. The He's Gone jam at the end finds Garcia really pouring it on vocally. The Eyes starts off a little weird but this is a really hot version with some good solos. GDTRFB in an unusual placement sends the drummers off on a fast pace. Post Drums keeps up the surprises with a Baby What You Want me to Do ?. Sgr Mags closes a very strong set. this show is HOT and definately a keeper!
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Sweet! I will check this one out.
Glad to see MJ hasn't distracted you from your guiding purpose... the expose the truth about Day Job. Carry on!
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my favorite is 10/8/83 - opens Set II


Listening to this one right now. How many times did they do that?
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my favorite is 10/8/83 - opens Set II


Listening to this one right now. How many times did they do that?


Not many!

My favorite is 10/20/83... was that show the impetus for this thread lucas?
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my favorite is 10/8/83 - opens Set II


Listening to this one right now. How many times did they do that?


Not many!

My favorite is 10/20/83... was that show the impetus for this thread lucas?

I think the breakout Dayjob on 8/28/82 was a set 2 opener. Other than that cant really think of one. I also saw a Day Job show opener on 4/13/84. Lucky me! Rolling Eyes

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Yup 8/28/82 was the Day Job breakout! I think West La Fadeaway was also a first timer. This was the 10 year aniversery of the Veneta Cremery benifit show. Not the best show.

Don't know why I started this thread other than everyone hates Day Job and I like it and thought I would try to prove Dick's theory. A reminder...... The Day Job had to be in the encore slot to qualify. His theory was that if they played Day Job in the encore slot, it was a hot show!
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Yup 8/28/82 was the Day Job breakout! I think West La Fadeaway was also a first timer. This was the 10 year aniversery of the Veneta Cremery benifit show. Not the best show.

Don't know why I started this thread other than everyone hates Day Job and I like it and thought I would try to prove Dick's theory. A reminder...... The Day Job had to be in the encore slot to qualify. His theory was that if they played Day Job in the encore slot, it was a hot show!

So, in that sense, was it a reality check???
Hey guys, we just blew your brains for 3 hours... welcome back to earth before you leave... Don't quit your day job to follow us around!
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I really think people are reading into the meaning of this tune too much. I don't think the boys were that conscious of sending a messege to anyone. It was kind of against there whole vibe. I just think it's a song that rocked so they chose to let it rip. Can't play the same old encores all the time. At least that is my take.
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Found a GREAT version of this tune. 4/16/84 Rochester. encore after a smoking show. The second set looks pretty run of the mill, but they kick ass from start to finish!!!
Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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I really think people are reading into the meaning of this tune too much. I don't think the boys were that conscious of sending a messege to anyone. It was kind of against there whole vibe. I just think it's a song that rocked so they chose to let it rip. Can't play the same old encores all the time. At least that is my take.

I find it pretty far fetched to say the words of this song had no real meaning... no message...
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I really think people are reading into the meaning of this tune too much. I don't think the boys were that conscious of sending a messege to anyone. It was kind of against there whole vibe. I just think it's a song that rocked so they chose to let it rip. Can't play the same old encores all the time. At least that is my take.

I find it pretty far fetched to say the words of this song had no real meaning... no message...


It's meaning to me was - don't be a leech -"god bless the child whose got his own stash, 9 to 5 and a place to crash"

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Yeah, its not really a subtle message either, is it...
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Frost Amphitheatre - Stanford University
Location Palo Alto, CA

Date 4/27/85
One
Dancing In The Street > Bertha ; Little Red Rooster ; Brown Eyed Women ; My Brother Esau ; Ramble On Rose ; Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues > Cold Rain And Snow ; The Music Never Stopped

Two
Scarlet Begonias > Eyes Of The World > Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad > Man Smart (Woman Smarter) > Drums > Space > The Wheel > Truckin' > The Other One > Black Peter > Around And Around > One More Saturday Night

Encore
Keep Your Day Job

Ok this might well be my favorite show of the whole project despite the Dancin opener. The second set is just freakin insane A Jerryfecta to open!!!!. The Scarlet holds it's own with any Scarlet out there and that is saying a lot. The transition is smooth too without the normal uncomfortable flubs. It works. Then the double bonus of Truckin AND the Other One post drums. Damn fine show here! This is why I hold 85 in such high regard!
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Welcome back lucamain!!

Long live the Day Job Project!!
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Good to see ya Lucas....
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Yes, welcoem back!! And I love this show. High energy and a great setlist - you can almost hear the coke residue oozing down the back of Jerry's throat.. Laughing

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Not budging here Dude. This show (9/2/85 Oklahoma Zoo Ampitheater) FAR from rocks! ....

I was hoping that the Playin would get going but Garcia is in another world and not listening.

Evidence? As the jam melts down you can clearly hear Brent move into a Don't Need Love theme and Jerry just keeps piling the noodles on the plate. Brent lays back and follows him into a little melt down, then as it peters out Brent tries again. Phil joins him and Jerry just ignores the whole thing. After a few seconds you can almost hear what sounds like Brent just pounding the keys and giving up as the drummers take over.


The evidence you provide tells me Garcia was hearing, and hating, every note Brent and Phil were playing. There was nothing he liked better than blowing off Don't Need Love.

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6/30/84
Indianapolis Sports & Music Center
Location Indianapolis, IN


One
Jack Straw [5:46] ; Dire Wolf [3:09] ; New Minglewood Blues [8:22] ; Dupree's Diamond Blues [7:06] ; Far From Me [4:27] ; My Brother Esau [4:48] ; Ramble On Rose [7:22] ; Lost Sailor [6:18] > Saint Of Circumstance [7:04] > Deal [10:11]


Two
Shakedown Street [14:46] > Playing In The Band [12:58] > Terrapin Station [14:08] > Drums [8:#46] > Space [5:10] > Playing In The Band [4:04] ; Truckin' [7:17] > Spoonful [2:58] > Stella Blue [8:10] > Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad [6:35] > One More Saturday Night [4:17]

Encore Keep Your Day Job [4:14


The Dragon is definately present in this show. This is during the dark days of 84 and I hate to speculate what may or may not have been going on in the band, but there is certainly more than a little darkness going on here. And perhaps maybe a little tour ick. ( for those that never got the tour ick, it is the sickness that you get from being on tour, partying your ass off and being a little unhealthy for days at a time resulting cough and flu like symptoms that could take weeks to get rid off ) Both Bobby's and Jerry's voices sound as if they were victims of some summer tour ick here. Or maybe something else....

Anyway the first set is ok. Nothing that special or bland just some good Dead music. Then we get the late first set Lost>Sailor and the show takes off. A good reading here that flows nicely to a deep Deal that has more cracks in Garcia's voice than OJ's defense theory. This one is JGB like here in it's length and delivery. A very hot ending to the set.

Shakedown gets down to some good sleeze as Garcia takes his time on the jam and Brent and Bobby get into some real nice back and forth " poke arounds "
Clocking in at around 14 mins it's also one of the longer 80's versions out there. A very dark Playin come next with some really intense playing from Garcia. Not so much noodle- like but almost focused in a weird way. Another long, take your time version that winds it's way to a deep slow moving Teraipin. Garcia has a little problem finding the right notes in the intro here but what it lacks in precision, it makes up for in improvesation. We get a few mumbled vesres through the song which aren't too bad ,but when one compares them to some say 94-95 Dead you can infer why this may have happened.

More heavy sound comes out in the Drums/ Space segment with the drummers going deep into The Beast. So deep in fact that Jerry comes out a little early to join in the fun. What happens next is just scary Garcia guitar tones and runs that seem to come from some possesed place. If you're into the more intense space segements dripping with a persian influence, this one's for you!

The rest of the set is a little sloppy and disjointed but still good. Garcia is the captain here and he pretty much leads the band into all the post-drums songs here with Truckin> being the last highlight. Spoonful is very sloppy but in a good way and even Bobby gets to crank out a SOLO!!!!! but the jam kind of falls apart which leads into a premature Stella complete with a massive blown lyric. The outro jam from Stella is nice, not great, and a halfway energetic Sat. Nite closes the set.


In the version I have the Day Job cuts but I heard enough to know it was NOT a rockin version, in fact it was pretty slow. So overall this is a weird show. I really like this show but it does NOT fit in with the theory. It's not white, hot rocking in your face Grateful Dead. It's sloppy, oozing drugged out Grateful Dead and that's fine too. Sometimes that is a good thing and works just as well. It just shows how many different sides you could get whenever you went to a show. And that's why we like it so much.
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This is definitely a key show. Jerry just shreds the whole way through. I have it on vid, and the Jerrapotumus is in full effect.
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Really! Man would love to see that one too!
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Good review, although I think more highly of the rest of the 1st set. This is pretty typical of Summer of 84 - dark, a little bit disjointed and sloppy at times, but interesting setlists and a few breakouts.
I saw the Harrisburg, Saratoga and Merriweather shows this tour.
Harrisburg was OK, but not great and Jerry was pasty white and huge.
Saratoga had the Dancin breakout, and a great setlist including the requisite "darkness of Playin>China Doll and Other>Wharf, plus a double encore. It was a big show, chaotic and it rained (only time I ever wanted to leave during a double encore 'cause I was freezing). but listening to it in retrospect its kind of a weird show that definitely does not rank in my top shows. Intense in some spots, but in others a little disjointed, and Jerry goes in and out. Merriweather shows were more rockin, but also had a few rough spots, especially night 2.
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Thanks for the 6/30/84 suggestion. I am in the second set and it oozes with darkness. I am really digging this PITB.
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Lucasmcain, don't let this die dude.
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Yer right I've been slacking! I'm on it.
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4/23/84
New Haven Coliseum
New Haven, Ct

One
Jack Straw [6:38] ; Sugaree [13:21] ; Cassidy [6:31] ; Dupree's Diamond Blues [7:04] ; Hell In A Bucket [6:26] ; Might As Well [4:24]

Two
Iko Iko [8:48] ; Lost Sailor [6:37] > Saint Of Circumstance [6:46] > Space [1:04] > Uncle John's Band [13:14] > Space [3:37] > Only A Fool (1) [3:19] > Jam (1) [1:12] > Drums > Space > Truckin' > Black Peter > Around And Around > Good Lovin'

Encore: Keep Your Day Job

Sorry for slacking on this thread. The first thing I noticed on this recording is the quality is top notch! Great seperation of all the instruments with everything coming in crystal clear. This is a phenominal sounding 80's board.

Now to the show.... A very fine Jack Straw comes out of the gate with everyone hitting their notes and taking their time which leads into a pretty hot jam near the end. Sugaree continues on a smooth and energetic pace. Again, Jery's voice is on tonight without any cracks or ' froggyness'. Oh and the solo at about the 8:45 mark is one of the highlights of the short first set. Phil is also dropping some good bombs in there too. Cassidy is a nice follow- up to Sugaree and has some tasty bits in there especially the jam at the end!!. The rest of the set is good, but not anywhere near as good as the opening tri-fecta. Dupree's and Bucket are well played but there are better versions out there. Might As Well is Hot as Hell and closes the set.

The second set gets interesting. Aiko is a pretty standard version here. It has good energy and gets the set off to a bopping start. Bobby follows this up with a good version of Lost Sailor with plenty off driftins' and dreammins'. On my initial notes I took while listening I had " tepid " written down for the St. O Circumstance but that quickly goes away as I then wrote in capital letters SMOKIN!!!! which is exactly how it plays out. By the end of Saint they are ripping it up and are definately dialed in.

The meat of the show is next with a very fine Uncle John's. I mean a VERY FINE Uncle John's!!! This one logs in at about 17 mins and is just exactly perfect. It starts off a little slow but it delivers a big old heap of Jerry noodles and plays out well. Just as it seems that the drummers are about to go off and do their thing Brent lets loose with Only a Fool, with only him and the drummers. The first and only time this tune was played and I have to say it sounds like they could have used a little more rehearsal time on this one. There are some issues with this but overall I don't think it was as bad a trainwreck as it could have been. The fact that this is a one off makes this a special one.

The Drums/ Space segement is pretty long but not too dark as some of the 84-85's tended to get. It's always nice to get a Spanish Jam no matter what the occasion. I always thought of them as a bonus and this one is a nice fat bonus coming on the heals of Only a Fool>Drums/Space>Spanish Jam. Not bad at all!!
This leads to an Ok Truckin'. It's good but a crushing one that would have been nice to go with the preceding tunes. You can hear Jerry getting off pretty hard in Black Peter as he really nails the final solo and gives a little extra in the " Run and see " closing. The Around and Around is it's typical meh self which flows into the some Good Lovin to close the set. Jerry is riffing pretty hard and fast during Good Lovin and he even gives us a little fanning to boot. Of course Day Job closes the show but the board source is gone so we are left with a weird sounding Aud source and it's not that hot a version/

Overall I have to give this show two thumbs up. I love the opening three tunes of the first set. The second set is a nice long shot of Grateful Dead with a heavy Uncle John's anchor which you don't see too many of. It's usually attached to another jammier ( is that a word? ) tune. You also get the one off Only a Fool and a Spanish Jam thrown in as well. This one might not get as much attention as some other 84's but it is well worth a listen!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sorry for slacking on this thread.

Apology accepted! It lives!

Re: Might As Well... you know, not for nothing, that song ends the 1st set in a lot of hot shows.

The UJB is probably one of the best out there, essence of dark 84 flying around in my mind. Love it! Duderino told me about that one. April 84 was such a hot month of shows.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmmm...should we have a Might As Well thread?
I like this show. The short first set might disaude some folks but they make a statement. UJB is, as said, the highlight. The cool thing is a lot of the jamming is in the major key solo section, Jerry keeps going and going. Wonder if he forgot the words or was just inspired? Def a keeper. BTW Lucas, are you just pulling shows at random?? Another Day Job encore from this tour was 4/16/84 Rochester. Really good first set and a He's Gone>Jam>D>S>Other One>Stella that is choice.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah Dude I'm pretty much going at it at random from my initial list but it seems that when I started this thing I went off of Deadlists instead of Deadbase. I didn't have my Deadbase with me for a few years as it was in storage. What I'm finding out is that I missed a few that landed in the encore slot. So at some point I'l have to go back and put them all in some kind of order. I just like the randomness of it so I don't get burned out ,and it keeps the project fresh. It also maybe allows those who are actually listening to these shows a break as well. Koch kind of scared me when he did his Fall 72 reviews.

A Might as Well thread would be interesting. I really like that song and Koch might be on to something there. There is well over a hundred with most closing the set. I think a better thread would be short first sets, the ones in the 5 to 6 song range. There is a huge difference of say the short first set 80's versus the 5 and 6 song abortions of 94-95.

Agreed on April of 84.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="lucasmcain"] I think a better thread would be short first sets, the ones in the 5 to 6 song range. There is a huge difference of say the short first set 80's versus the 5 and 6 song abortions of 94-95.

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Hah!!!!! I have to concur.
I was thinking of an overall "short but sweet" thread. Those shows or sets (1st or 2nd) that were not that long tune wise or lengthwise, but really made a statement.

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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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09-09-82 Saenger Performing Arts Center, New Orleans, La.
10-11-83 Madison Square Garden, New York, N.Y.
04-16-84 Community War Memorial, Rochester, N.Y.
04-20-84 Civic Convention Hall Auditorium, Philadelphia, Pa.
03-10-85 Berkeley Community Theatre, Berkeley, Ca.
03-21-85 Hampton Coliseum, Hampton, Va.

These shows feature both Day Job AND JBG...
I have long had a theory that JBG was only busted out when Jerry was feeling his oats...
9/9/82 is a Day Job>JBG encore!
10/11/83... DJ closes 1st set, and JBG is the show's encore
4/16/84... JBG closes the 2nd, and DJ is the encore... a superior 2nd set? Can't recall to be honest...
4/20/84... JBG closes the 2nd, and DJ is the encore... a superior 2nd set? YES! It is, also has a Dew out of Space
3/10/85... JBG closes the 2nd, and DJ is the encore... a superior 2nd set? YES!
3/21/85... JBG closes the 2nd, and DJ is the encore... a superior 2nd set? Can't recall exactly, but I believe so...
Further research required for 4/16/84 and 3/21/85... coming soon to an LP near you.
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kochman wrote:
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09-09-82 Saenger Performing Arts Center, New Orleans, La.
10-11-83 Madison Square Garden, New York, N.Y.
04-16-84 Community War Memorial, Rochester, N.Y.
04-20-84 Civic Convention Hall Auditorium, Philadelphia, Pa.
03-10-85 Berkeley Community Theatre, Berkeley, Ca.
03-21-85 Hampton Coliseum, Hampton, Va.

These shows feature both Day Job AND JBG...
I have long had a theory that JBG was only busted out when Jerry was feeling his oats...
9/9/82 is a Day Job>JBG encore!
10/11/83... DJ closes 1st set, and JBG is the show's encore
4/16/84... JBG closes the 2nd, and DJ is the encore... a superior 2nd set? Can't recall to be honest...
4/20/84... JBG closes the 2nd, and DJ is the encore... a superior 2nd set? YES! It is, also has a Dew out of Space
3/10/85... JBG closes the 2nd, and DJ is the encore... a superior 2nd set? YES!
3/21/85... JBG closes the 2nd, and DJ is the encore... a superior 2nd set? Can't recall exactly, but I believe so...
Further research required for 4/16/84 and 3/21/85... coming soon to an LP near you.

4/16/84 and 3/21/85 have setlists that look so-so on paper, but are fun and well played. Sets for the ages? No. 4/16/84 has an amazing He's Gone>Jam>Drums>Space Other One >Stella. 3/21 is a fun set - first show of the tour.

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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So double props for the Goode. Jobs!!!! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Day Job is an epic song. After listening to tonights LP I have decided I like it a lot. I also dig the Hunter versions of this song, which at times can be drawn out in that great Hunter voice.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Philadelphia Civic Center
Location Philadelphia, PA
Date 4/20/84

One Feel Like A Stranger [8:41] ; Cold Rain And Snow [6:50] ; Beat It On Down The Line [3:37] ; Cumberland Blues [5:47] ; Little Red Rooster [9:21] ; Brown Eyed Women [4:56] ; My Brother Esau [5:34] ; It Must Have Been The Roses [5:45] > Let It Grow [14:53]

Two Scarlet Begonias [12:12] > Fire On The Mountain [15:30] > Samson And Delilah [7:54] > Drums [10:35] > Space [10:55] > I Need A Miracle [5:24] > Morning Dew [10:20] > Around And Around [3:35] > Johnny B. Goode [4:06]

Encore Keep Your Day Job [4:21]


So here we have one of the Goode Jobs closing a pretty good show. Their is a lot of meat on this show in both sets. It is with the second set that the sparks come flying. Despite horrid vocals by both Garcia and Weir, the playing didn't suffer at all. The Scarlet takes off wondefully and has a nice drippy segue segment into Fire, which is a take your time version. Samson cranks along and goes right into Drums. I guess they felt three songs before Drums was enough. Looking at the timing though it lands on the short side of 30 minutes which is about the average pre-Drums timing of this era.

The REAL good stuff comes from a dark 84 Space with Garcia making his guitar kind of mumble. I like 84 Spaces and this one is great. From here on in it is clear that Garcia is leading the band in song selection. He begins each of the tunes after Space. Miracle gets the blood flowing followed by a pretty good Dew. I was a little scared that this was not going to deliver, becasue they seem to kind of blow through it quickly, but the tune peaks and we get a little extended fannig . At this point I was fully expecting them to call it a night. I call it The Dew fear. It was great to get a Dew at a show, but you always ran the risk that it could also mean a set closer.

Luckily, Garcia riffs right into Around and Around which seems to catch Bobby of guard but he recovers and they deliver a pretty standard version. this goes directly into rockin Johnny B Goode to close the the set.

Of course to finish this awesome show we get a Day Job and this is a pretty good version. For once it dosen't seem like they are trying to blast through it to get off the stage as quickly as possible.

Overall this fits the theorom. Hot show, Day Job , and bonus points for the Goode> Job!!

I have the soundboard of this and it sounds a little tinny. When Phil decides to get into it he drops some bombs and you can pick it out, but for a good part of the show Garcia is high in the mix...almost too high. There are some good Brent moments too, but again you really have to listen for him. An aud source might be the way to go here.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love this show... more importantly...
The Motherfucking Day Job project lives!!!

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The AUD's of all three Philly shows are where its at. Nice deep and phat.
In fact, the AUD's of the Hampton, Rochester and Niagara shows are all similar quality. MOTB

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