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Grateful_nirvanA



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:04 am    Post subject: Guest access Reply with quote

Okay, I'll put my ignorance on display. From what I remember before I joined this site, guest access is pretty much no access. However, whenever I look to see who is trolling around, there are always a few guests listed. If a guest really can't see or do sh*t here, why are there always so many? What are they doing? What can they do?
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Kochman
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:08 am    Post subject: Re: Guest access Reply with quote

Grateful_nirvanA wrote:
Okay, I'll put my ignorance on display. From what I remember before I joined this site, guest access is pretty much no access. However, whenever I look to see who is trolling around, there are always a few guests listed. If a guest really can't see or do sh*t here, why are there always so many? What are they doing? What can they do?

They are generally google and other company bots, and they are looking for info of all sorts, who knows exactly what.
Other than that, if someone hasn't logged in yet, but they are in the main page, they are listed as "guest" until they log in.

Guests cannot see 99% of what's going on here.
I have no idea if the bots can see it, but I suspect they can.
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Grateful_nirvanA



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the 411 Koch!
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aikowolf



Joined: 03 Dec 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Guest access Reply with quote

Kochman wrote:
Grateful_nirvanA wrote:
Okay, I'll put my ignorance on display. From what I remember before I joined this site, guest access is pretty much no access. However, whenever I look to see who is trolling around, there are always a few guests listed. If a guest really can't see or do sh*t here, why are there always so many? What are they doing? What can they do?

They are generally google and other company bots, and they are looking for info of all sorts, who knows exactly what.
Other than that, if someone hasn't logged in yet, but they are in the main page, they are listed as "guest" until they log in.

Guests cannot see 99% of what's going on here.
I have no idea if the bots can see it, but I suspect they can.


bots should have no more than guest access, so they probably can't see the threads
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This all sounds right. My wife and I have a web site that gets very little human traffic but an enormous amount of bot traffic.

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Kochman
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Guest access Reply with quote

aikowolf wrote:
Kochman wrote:
Grateful_nirvanA wrote:
Okay, I'll put my ignorance on display. From what I remember before I joined this site, guest access is pretty much no access. However, whenever I look to see who is trolling around, there are always a few guests listed. If a guest really can't see or do sh*t here, why are there always so many? What are they doing? What can they do?

They are generally google and other company bots, and they are looking for info of all sorts, who knows exactly what.
Other than that, if someone hasn't logged in yet, but they are in the main page, they are listed as "guest" until they log in.

Guests cannot see 99% of what's going on here.
I have no idea if the bots can see it, but I suspect they can.


bots should have no more than guest access, so they probably can't see the threads

You would think so, but I can see where they are "looking" on the admin panel... like if I checked your status while you were posting this message, it would have said "posting a message", or if you were reading a thread in the Conversations of hte Dead part it would have said "Conversations with the Dead"...
The IPs are shown, and they are generally the same, but their locations are ALL over the place, including oddly enough:
Posting a Message

The day a bot that isn't a member posts a message!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Grateful_nirvanA



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn those bots! They may not display actual artificial intelligence, but they are damn persistent!!
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aikowolf



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

google search lost sailors pub donwload links

this is the only snapshot they seem to have though and it's ancient

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then check your log.. it will show your IP looking at that thread, but you will have seen nothing while logged out, just as the bot sees nothing but what you saw..
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Kochman
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow dude, how did you learn that?
Are you a part of the Borg Collective? Be honest.
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aikowolf



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kochman wrote:
Wow dude, how did you learn that?
Are you a part of the Borg Collective? Be honest.



I was an adnin for a phpBB forum remember?.. I know all about the permissions and how the threads are actually blocked from unwanted guests, be it bot or human.
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tizi



Joined: 07 Apr 2010
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Location: Lost somewhere in the Northen Adriatic

PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who/what is a f**** "bot" ... seems lika a Big Brother thing .... creepy Rolling Eyes

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