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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2010 11:41 am    Post subject: Thelonious Sphere Monk Reply with quote

I have recently dled some pretty good Monk boots, will be putting some up on megaupload for this thread. Look for those in the next week.
I got this one album called Misterioso from the library that is just awesome, his sax player is ridiculously good, live at the 5 Spot in 1958.
Monk got screwed on some bogus drug charges so he spent a lot of time in Europe after the Man pulled his "cabaret card," just too bad that happened, Monk revolutionized the playing of the piano and was one of the great composers of the 20th century.

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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2010 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love Monk ... his piano playing is unique. I love his solo playing. I hate the dates and names but there is this solo in San Francisco (I guess) which was tome a real cure out of a bad time which all of us must confront once in a while in our life!
I owe a lot to Mr. T.Monk

Thanks for this post.

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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice, cheesebear. Misterioso and Thelonious in Action (both recorded at the same Five Spot gigs) are my two favorite Monk albums. Johnny Griffin had a rep as a hard bop tenor speed demon, but he really does a phenomenal job with Monk's tunes on these two.

I believe the story was that Monk took the fall for Bud Powell on those drug charges and couldn't play clubs in NYC for most of the 1950's, which put a huge hold on his career (his breakthrough recordings were made in the late 40's). He was working again by the end of the decade, though, since his quartet with Coltrane was from 1957.

I got 5 By Monk By 5 a little while ago and have been enjoying that one a whole lot, too.
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had live at the 5 spot for about 15 years or so and always dug it. I remember when I first bought it and gave it a spin, i was like WTF because of the recording(if you are unaware, the sound quality is real bad)...After a few spins I knew this was definately worthy of releasing...This the only one I have where Trane and Monk are together, and it is so wild....Its like Monk is layin down a freakin obsticle course that Trane has to negotiate through something...Its one where multiple listens are required, and the first few times, for me at least, it took a little discipline to get through it(due to the wild pace and poor recording)....ANyhow, Live at the 5 spot is well worth the 12 bucks or D/L time.....
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you heard Misterioso Skobud? That one is live at the 5 spot too but sound and performance are really great like I said. There is an album out of Monk and Coltrane live at Carnegie Hall, but it is not as great as I thought it would be when I heard it.
Here are a couple megaupload links for any that are interested, I torrented these shows from dimeadozen.org, a couple others I have I got elsewhere, but I think they are worthy of uploading on mu and sharing here if anyone is interested, big thanks to all who have shared previously. I left them in flac format and they are archived in winrar. Any questions on that feel free to ask, those are user friendly formats for the average person imo if you get the right info. I will put up a few more this week for you guys.
I will have to check out 5 By Monk By 5, thanks nickJ. I do have a couple other random official cds I picked up at the music store, will try to dig those out and rate them, one of them the sax player sounds like ass though, one of his Nonet recordings in France on Charly Records I think.

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The Thelonious Monk Quartet, February 16, 1948, NYC

WNYC "Festival of American Music" broadcast

liberated boot, most likely downloaded from a previous incarnation of Dime when lineages weren't required.

Goody's additional lineage:
dBpoweramp (WAV) > Cool Edit Pro (Pitch Bender -91 cents) > Trader's Little Helper (FLAC level 8, ffp)

Thelonious Monk - Piano
Idrees Sulieman (Leonard Graham) - Trumpet
Curley Russell - Bass
Art Blakey - Drums

1. Just You, Just Me (l. Raymond Klages / m. Jesse Greer) 5:09
2. All The Things You Are (l. Oscar Hammerstein II / m. Jerome Kern) 6:15
3. Suburban Eyes (Ike Quebec) 3:32 [incomplete]

Total 14:56

Pitch was approximately 91 cents sharp.
Corrected and reFLACed by goody - 9/17/06


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Thelonious Monk Amsterdam 1961-04-15 The First European Concert silver


The First European Concert (original silver) Magnetic MRCD 120

Concertgebouw, Amsterdam, Netherlands
1961-04-15

1. Jackie-ing
2. Crepuscle With Nellie
3. off Minor
4. Straight, No Chaser
5. Evidence
6. Bemsha Swing
7. Well You Needn't
8. 'Round Midnight
9. I Mean You


Thelonious Monk - piano
Charlie Rouse - tenor sax
John Ore - bass
Frankie Dunlop - drums


Original artwork included in files.

Lineage: Broadcast?>silver>EAC/FLAC>You

Sound: VG+ (strict) - the ends are washed out but middle is strong, overall clear but not full broadcast strength


This gem appears never to have been posted and there's not much Monk here.
maybe we can get a mini-flood going?

Though titled "The First European Concert" he did record in Paris in 1954 and I'd assume played some date/s
around that? It appears to be the first of many 1960's European concerts though.


The Transfer:

This is an EAC straight to FLAC with TLH for the obligatories.
Nothing has been changed on this error free copy!

NOTE:

This is for free trade only. Not to be bought or sold (though had to be liberated to reach that blissful
state).


Transfer by: bombdiggity (Jbombdiggity {at} gmail)

Bombdiggity Up # 2

Thanks to all here. Share the wealth.


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Thelonious Monk Quartet
Tivolis Koncertsal
Copenhagen, Denmark
February 21, 1964


*Thanks to Carl-Bernhard Kjelstrup AKA "Red" or "cakjels" for this wonderful show.


Personnel:
Charlie Rouse (ts)
Thelonious Monk (p)
Butch Warren (b)
Ben Riley (d)


1.set

Tracklist:
1. I'm getting sentimental over you (cut) 6:11
2. Bright Missisippi 8:22
3. Epistrophy (cut) 2:56
4. Stuffy Turkey 9:38
5. Evidence (pitch probs) 9:10
6. Drum solo 0:51
7. Misterioso 9:03


TT 53:33


FM broadcast > cassette > cdr > dBpowerAMP Music Converter (r13)


*Transferred and uploaded by peterw® 03:15 07-10-2008

Enjoy!

Thelonious Monk Quartet
Tivolis Koncertsal
Copenhagen, Denmark
February 21, 1964


*Thanks to Carl-Bernhard Kjelstrup AKA "Red" or "cakjels" for this wonderful show.


Personnel:
Charlie Rouse (ts)
Thelonious Monk (p)
Butch Warren (b)
Ben Riley (d)


2.set

Tracklist:
1. Epistrophy 4:10
2. Blue Monk 8:47
3. Brake's Sake 8:38
4. Ruby, My Dear 8:46
5. Misterioso 6:06
6. Don't Blame me (cut) 2:50


TT 39:19


FM broadcast > cassette > cdr > dBpowerAMP Music Converter (r13)


*Transferred and uploaded on DIME by peterw® 18:45 09-10-2008

Enjoy!

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I love this recording! Gillespie's solos are really fantastic and hearing
Monk play with Milt Jackson reminds me of his "Genius of Modern Music"
days.

Thelonious Monk (+Jazz Greats)
Newport Jazz Festival
Newport, RI
July 2, 1966

The sound on this one is around B+, a tad distorted but still very
listenable. The playing here is ridiculously good.

01. Straight, No Chaser (12:55)
02. Round Midnight (9:36)
03. Don't Blame Me [Monk solo] (3:45)
04. Woody'n You (7:21)


Lineup:
Dizzy Gillespie tp,
James Moody as, ts,
Milt Jackson vib,
Thelonious Monk p,
Percy Heath b,
Max Roach dr

lineage:
FM? > ? > flac on DVD in trade > Easy DC-DA Extractor > Dime


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Thelonious Monk Orchestra. Rotterdam, Holland November 28, 1967

Source: Radio
Sound: A-

Thelonious Monk, p;
Phil Woods, as;
Charlie Rouse, ts;
Johnny Griffin,ts;
Ray Copeland, tp;
Clark Terry, tp;
Jimmy Cleveland, tb;
Larry Gales, b;
Ben Riley, d.

01. Ruby, My Dear 5:59
02. Hackensack 11:07
03. We See 17:12
04. Intros in Dutch / Epistrophy 11:02
05. Evidence/Epistrophy 11:00
06. Don't Blame Me 4:49
07. Oska T./Epistrophy 17:21

Time 78:18


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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have not heard Misterioso, but I plan on checking it and the other show you posted...Thanks for the links cheese.
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

skobud wrote:
I have not heard Misterioso, but I plan on checking it and the other show you posted...Thanks for the links cheese.
These are also very nice to have skobud. Monk gets up from the piano when he's not soloing and does a little dance...he was a trip. I can DHT these to you if you want.

Baden-Baden, Germany 1963 DVD
Monk In Poland 4-4-66 DVD
Monk In Oslo 4-15-66 DVD
Berlin, Germany 11-69 DVD
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

skobud wrote:
I have not heard Misterioso, but I plan on checking it and the other show you posted...Thanks for the links cheese.


You're welcome. Some of the ones that I am putting up later are of better quality than the Amsterdam show imo too. Duck told me once he really liked the song Let's Cool One (sly reference to smoking a joint) off that album especially as do I, awesome tune. And he brings up the dance moves that Monk used to pull while others were soloing, famous for that and his hats, he had some pretty funky headwear befitting the high priest of Bop.
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheese I have about a dozen audio shows not yet in the data base (piles of cds waiting for labels), but here's a few I can trade.

Paris, France 4-18-61
Stockholm, Sweden 3-5-63
Japan 5-23-63
Zurich, Switzerland 2-24-64
Zurich, Switzerland 2-26-64
Bremen, Germany 3-8-65
Cologne, Germany 12-2-69

I think I have the entire catalogue of official releases, including imports.
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

idk, I will have to check further, but I am putting that zurich 2 26 64 up right now, I have that one.
There is that one oddball one recorded at the 5 spot by one of his high society benefactor women fans I think i have too that I got from dimeadozen.
Of course I welcome any and all other comments on Monk in general, because, as a wise man once said, the LSP is great because it is not all about the downloads.
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheesebeer wrote:
idk, I will have to check further, but I am putting that zurich 2 26 64 up right now, I have that one.
There is that one oddball one recorded at the 5 spot by one of his high society benefactor women fans I think i have too that I got from dimeadozen.
Of course I welcome any and all other comments on Monk in general, because, as a wise man once said, the LSP is great because it is not all about the downloads.


Amen LSP's magic starts at the top, with the finest admins on the net! I also think the people here are cool to one another.
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This laserdisc is out of print, which is a shame. It showcases some of Monk's greatest compositions, performed by many of the greatest jazz musicians of our time - several of whom have passed away since this was recorded. A must for jazz fans.

Celebrating Jazz Master : Thelonious Sphere MONK
Rare ~ Laserdisc Edition .
Recorded Live in Concert at D.A.R. Constitution Hall ,
Washington D.C. October 6 , 1986

Songs include :
Round Midnight ( Gerry Mulligan with Billy Taylor Trio ) ~
Rhythm-A-Ning ( Jon Hendricks & Company ) ~
Dizzy Atmosphere ( Dizzy Gillespie ) ~
Little Waltz / Blue Monk ( Herbie Hancock / Ron Carter ) ~
I Mean You / Light Blue ( Branford Marsalis Quartet ) ~
Just You , Just Me ( Kenny Kirkland / Ellis Marsalis ) ~
Well , You Needn't ( Urszula Dudziak ) ~
Ruby , My Dear ( Walter Davis Jr. ) ~
Green Chimneys / Raise Four ( Wynton Marsalis Quartet )

......................................................
Laserdisc in NTSC Format , 2-sides Extended Play , Digital Sound , Running Time 90 Minutes .
Pioneer Artists Laserdisc - Catalog PA-89-234


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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I edited the text files in the above post. The one listed as 6 30 67 says it is 7 2 66 on the text file, I will have to look into that when I get some time. Nothing was altered here in any of the transfers to archive format.


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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have nothing to add to the Monk bootlegs conversation, but I just wanted to say that Monk was an incredibly important influence on my jazz education. A truly unique person and pianist. What's really sad is that in the 1960s he was severely affected by mental illness and/or the drugs that were then used to treat it. Very sad. If you've ever seen "Straight, No Chaser," you can video of him in studio sessions with his band. He seems totally out of it. When he talks, nobody seems to understand anything he's talking about. But he could still play.
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

snow_and_rain wrote:
I have nothing to add to the Monk bootlegs conversation, but I just wanted to say that Monk was an incredibly important influence on my jazz education. A truly unique person and pianist. What's really sad is that in the 1960s he was severely affected by mental illness and/or the drugs that were then used to treat it. Very sad. If you've ever seen "Straight, No Chaser," you can video of him in studio sessions with his band. He seems totally out of it. When he talks, nobody seems to understand anything he's talking about. But he could still play.


Yeah, he was on the far side of eccentric. One of my favorite Monk anecdotes is that he lived in a very sparse apartment, the one feature being a big picture of Billie Holliday attached to the ceiling. Recordings of him actually talking are pretty rare.
I think Monk and Garcia share similarities in style, Monk was an amazingly intuitive performer, often he took chances in his music, and when it worked, it was awesome.

For years, they were telling me to play commercial, be commercial. I'm not commercial. I say, play your own way. You play what you want, and let the public pick up on what you were doing, even if it takes 15, 20 years.

- Thelonious Monk
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice thread
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if Monk had Asperger's or some other kind of spectrum disorder... there are tons of stories of his "eccentricities" and unusual communication style. One is that he showed up to a session with new material but no sheet music, and attempted to teach everyone these incredibly complicated tunes by humming them. But almost every musician who knew him seems to say that he was a very generous, funny, and gentle man, with a very stable domestic life. I never got the sense that Monk was mentally ill and under treatment for it, but I also haven't read any of the more recent books about him. He did fall off the map in the 1970's after he'd retired from performing, becoming increasingly reclusive until he basically didn't get out of bed or touch a piano for a few years until his death in 1982. Sad stuff.

I gotta say, though, apart from that "fuck 'em if they can't take a joke" maverick spirit, I don't hear a lot of musical connection between Monk and Garcia -- I hear more of Monk's unpredictability and totally left-field phrasing in Phil's playing, if anywhere, but not in Jerry's. Am I missing something?

I think that Monk and Ellington were two of the greatest American composers, and I'm sure that they will only become more widely recognized as such as the years roll on.

and there's also a cool blog of all Monk tunes performed by others that's worth checking if you're into other interpretations of his music (each song gets its own category for maximum geek-out factor!):
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

monk was a recluse and didn't speak a word in his final days. Just shut down. I man I know here in Monterey told me about him. He knew Monk.
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vladsmythe wrote:
monk was a recluse and didn't speak a word in his final days. Just shut down. I man I know here in Monterey told me about him. He knew Monk.



Isnt that ironic coming from you.
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not at all. would you like to discuss Monk?
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I d like to discuss what you are doing.
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I'm posting kochs insane fucking youtube embedded video. Tell him to cool it'
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We'll see.
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Oh, I meant "please" tell him to cool it.
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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nickJ wrote:
I wonder if Monk had Asperger's or some other kind of spectrum disorder... there are tons of stories of his "eccentricities" and unusual communication style. One is that he showed up to a session with new material but no sheet music, and attempted to teach everyone these incredibly complicated tunes by humming them. But almost every musician who knew him seems to say that he was a very generous, funny, and gentle man, with a very stable domestic life. I never got the sense that Monk was mentally ill and under treatment for it, but I also haven't read any of the more recent books about him. He did fall off the map in the 1970's after he'd retired from performing, becoming increasingly reclusive until he basically didn't get out of bed or touch a piano for a few years until his death in 1982. Sad stuff.

I gotta say, though, apart from that "fuck 'em if they can't take a joke" maverick spirit, I don't hear a lot of musical connection between Monk and Garcia -- I hear more of Monk's unpredictability and totally left-field phrasing in Phil's playing, if anywhere, but not in Jerry's. Am I missing something?

I think that Monk and Ellington were two of the greatest American composers, and I'm sure that they will only become more widely recognized as such as the years roll on.

and there's also a cool blog of all Monk tunes performed by others that's worth checking if you're into other interpretations of his music (each song gets its own category for maximum geek-out factor!):
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Thanks man, great insight. I guess I mean the "without a net" ethos of the playing of Garcia and Monk, and the ability to pull stuff out nowhere that works when it all looks like it is going to fall apart. Can't really go into technical detail, I just love the music in similar ways.
Indeed Ellington was a great composer. My mom and grandma met Ellington and his band at the time at a show, they talked to Louis Bellson for a long time too. My granny was into the Kansas City scene for a while and was big on the jazz clubs. Never got to ask her about since she passed when I was very young.
Anyway, here's a few more links. I will edit in the text files in above post later when I get a chance.

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I will go through and clean this thread up and put the text files in one post and all the links there too tomorrow, straighten everything out when I get some time.
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