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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:47 am    Post subject: EUREKA!!! 1/20/68 Reply with quote

42 years ago today...


1/20/68
Eureka Municipal Auditorium
Eureka, CA

Clementine>
New Potato>
BCE>
Jam(Space)>
Spanish Jam>
Caution>
Dark Star


I don’t know if I have ever come out and said it, but this is my favorite show from 1968. That would make it the third best show the boys ever played in my book. Every note of this extended little jam is worth a listen. I think the real highlight of all of this is Pig’s playing. Yes, I said it. His musical prowess shines on this recording exceptionally bright. Right out of the gate he seems to come from a different place or something. When you listen to this pay particular attention to how Pig really sets the tone during Clementine and then melts into New Potato….Koch, you were saying “give me a good Pig keyboard moment”, here it is bro. I don’t think Pig’s keys really surpass this performance, ever.

The jazzzy exploratory nature of this time is really evident here. Phil and Jerry are truly amazing on this recording. Case in point, the emergence of The Spanish Jam. First appearing three nights earlier, this one clocks in at about 7 min, which is half the length of the version from the 17th(the first). Jerry and Pig do some great back and forth and Phil really holds down the flow of the Jam. Billy’s snap on the snare is key as well for the overall sound. Every time I hear an early Spanish Jam like this one, I always think I have heard it somewhere else or something. It’s a very familiar feeling piece that definitely stood the test of time. Bias or not, this show offers the very best of 1968. PEace.....
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It should also be mentioned that Schoolgirl and Viola Lee from this show were on the 2/14/68 Road Trips.

I think 1/22, 1/23 (esp with the extra Road Trips material), and 2/2/68 are pretty close to this one in amazingness.
Though if any early 'heads' had been following the tour, perhaps they could have complained about the repetitive setlists!

This is also one of the last tours where Pigpen's taking full part in the jams. Through '67 his keyboards were a major part of the band's sound - but by the Aug '68 shows he apparently toned down quite a bit and stuck more to simple parts while the guitarists forged ahead.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sko, I will check out the pigpen performance here and get back to you.
May be a while, my wife is getting all fussy about her laptop and my music pouring through it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kochman wrote:
Sko, I will check out the pigpen performance here and get back to you.
May be a while, my wife is getting all fussy about her laptop and my music pouring through it.


maybe time to get a new one then..
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aikowolf wrote:
Kochman wrote:
Sko, I will check out the pigpen performance here and get back to you.
May be a while, my wife is getting all fussy about her laptop and my music pouring through it.


maybe time to get a new one then..

Computer? Can't afford it...
Wife? Love the one I got.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kochman wrote:
aikowolf wrote:
Kochman wrote:
Sko, I will check out the pigpen performance here and get back to you.
May be a while, my wife is getting all fussy about her laptop and my music pouring through it.


maybe time to get a new one then..

Computer? Can't afford it...
Wife? Love the one I got.



you knew where I was heading,
must have been Military Intelligence you were in Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hell yeah, man, these shows should all be on perma-bump.

I'm getting a head start on the 1/22 TDIH. This has to be one of the all-time great set lists, and a flawless performance to boot.

Date: January 22, 1968
Venue: Eagles Auditorium
Location: Seattle, WA

Alligator ->
Drums ->
Alligator
Cryptical Envelopment ->
The Other One ->
Cryptical Envelopment ->
New Potato Caboose ->
Born Cross-Eyed ->
Feedback ->
Spanish Jam ->
Dark Star ->
China Cat Sunflower ->
The Eleven ->
Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) Jam ->
Feedback ->
And We Bid You Goodnight
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

snow_and_rain wrote:
Hell yeah, man, these shows should all be on perma-bump.

I'm getting a head start on the 1/22 TDIH. This has to be one of the all-time great set lists, and a flawless performance to boot.

Date: January 22, 1968
Venue: Eagles Auditorium
Location: Seattle, WA

Alligator ->
Drums ->
Alligator
Cryptical Envelopment ->
The Other One ->
Cryptical Envelopment ->
New Potato Caboose ->
Born Cross-Eyed ->
Feedback ->
Spanish Jam ->
Dark Star ->
China Cat Sunflower ->
The Eleven ->
Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) Jam ->
Feedback ->
And We Bid You Goodnight


Could not agree more....Northwest tour '68, the Quick and the Dead.....Fucking Awesome!!!!!!! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, you would call it a "flawless" feedback?
Interesting concept.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kochman wrote:
So, you would call it a "flawless" feedback?
Interesting concept.


Yes and yes. That first Feedback, by the way (did you listen to it?) is really more of a Spanish jam intro and it's INCREDIBLE.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haven't listened.
Truth is, I can't stomach feedback...
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kochman wrote:
Haven't listened.
Truth is, I can't stomach feedback...


but you can Vince?.. zing! and don't say you didn't expect THAT...
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aikowolf wrote:
Kochman wrote:
Haven't listened.
Truth is, I can't stomach feedback...


but you can Vince?.. zing! and don't say you didn't expect THAT...

Hell yeah, feedback is always lame... vince is sometimes cool...
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In fact, let me elaborate here...

I have been listening to the Grateful Dead since 1993... when I first started, I loved the early, primal stuff...
However, in those 17 years, and all the listening I have done... I have never enjoyed a feedback.
The best compliment I can come up with for it is that they were trying something out...
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever the case, it is silly to dismiss such a kick-ass show b/c of one 4-minute track.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't dismiss the show at all... I haven't heard it even.

I simply questioned the use of the term "flawless show" to describe a show that has a formless (and therefore incapable of being "flawless" in a sense) feedback section (2 actually).

Whenever I listen to such shows (with feedback), I am happy to note, the feedback is at the end, so I just turn it off at that point. Problem solved.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once again, the first "feedback" listed is hardly feedback at all. You really should just listen to it. The second is a real Feedback, and you should probably avert your sensitive ears if you can't take the intensity.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only find them intensely boring and annoying... I have never liked it, nor understood why anyone would... its total nonsense... its nothing coherent...
crap in a bottle...

Anyhow, that's just my opinion. I'll stop bashing the beloved feedback now, before someone starts attacking Samba again or something.

I will be listening to the 1/20 first...
I have heard snippets of these shows, when they came out on archive, and I remember I liked it, but I do need to hear the whole shows at some point.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kochman wrote:


I will be listening to the 1/20 first...
I have heard snippets of these shows, when they came out on archive, and I remember I liked it, but I do need to hear the whole shows at some point.


yes you do...
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Checked out the 20th...
I guess I am just burnt out on the 60s dead, because it really didn't do much for me... and I remember when I listened previously I enjoyed it.
The Spanish Jam was nice and long, but again, it didn't do it for me... and that track always does it for me.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do i love feedback? yes! do i love 68 primal dead? yes! i don't delve into it too much but when i do i'm always a happy camper Cool
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