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Prince w/ Miles Davis 12-31-1987 EX-SDB

 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:44 am    Post subject: Prince w/ Miles Davis 12-31-1987 EX-SDB Reply with quote

as promised the audio of this is up at the
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this is a torrent and because of an incident in the last few days I am unwilling at this time to upload it to mega or r/s or the like..

if you MUST have NOW, and can not torrent, I'll try to figure something out though

Prince And Friends - Miles 2 Nowhere 2CD Set - New Years Eve Benefit Concert, Paisley Park MN. 12.31.87

Label : Thunderball
Catalogue : #TB 091-092
Disc Length : 52:50 / 44:10
Source : Soundboard Recording
Sound Quality : EX
Year Of Release : 1999

Lineage: Silver CD > EAC > WAV > FLAC Frontend > FLAC (lvl 6, SBE aligned)

Prince And Friends - Miles 2 Nowhere CD1

01. Sheila E. Drum Solo 05:49
02. Hot Thing 04:54
03. If I Was Your Girlfriend 07:04
04. Let's Go Crazy - Land Of 1000 Dances 06:51
05. When Doves Cry 02:44
06. Auld Lang Syne - Purple Rain 14:10
07. 1999 03:14
08. U Got The Look 08:00

Prince And Friends - Miles 2 Nowhere CD2

01. It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night 05:16
02. Six 00:15
03. Miles Davis Instrumental 03:59
04. Housequake 01:52
05. Chain Of Fools 05:13
06. Cold Sweat - Mother Popcorn 02:51
07. Interlude 00:36
08. Take The A-Train 01:04
09. Housequake 00:46
10. Funky Man - Land Of 1000 Dances 04:17
11. Piano Jam 01:12
12. Funky Man - Alphabet St. - Cold Sweat - Float Like A Butterfly, Sting Like A Bee - Housequake 05:18
13. It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night 01:07
14. Movie Star* 05:42
15. Miles Is Not Dead** 04:35

*Miles Davis - Montreux : 7th July 1988
**Studio Outtake: Letter 4 Miles (Listed as Miles Is Not Dead)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice!
Prince is highly underrated.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prince is the shiznit.You can actually hear his influence in modern music (See OutKast's Love Below).

Thanks for this aiko.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kochman wrote:
Nice!
Prince is highly underrated.


I am not certain I agree with the highly under-rated statement, he has some pretty rabid fans and I am amazed at the amount of bootleg material out there from this guy..

I think he did get a bad rap when he changed his name to

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but that was a long time ago and I think many of the critics and such have loosened up..

this is a real cool funky set and when I know that the new ISP is going OK, I'll up the pro-shot of this also
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aikowolf wrote:
Kochman wrote:
Nice!
Prince is highly underrated.


I am not certain I agree with the highly under-rated statement, he has some pretty rabid fans and I am amazed at the amount of bootleg material out there from this guy..

Good point... let me qualify it... amongst deadheads, Prince is highly underrated.
I have had Prince fans try to tell me he is way better at guitar than Jerome John...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kochman wrote:
aikowolf wrote:
Kochman wrote:
Nice!
Prince is highly underrated.


I am not certain I agree with the highly under-rated statement, he has some pretty rabid fans and I am amazed at the amount of bootleg material out there from this guy..

Good point... let me qualify it... amongst deadheads, Prince is highly underrated.
I have had Prince fans try to tell me he is way better at guitar than Jerome John...


BETTER?
not so certain I would say that, their styles are so different.. that I think any type of comparison would be lacking somehow
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No one compares to Jerry, and I'll go to fist-a-cuffs with anyone to prove that I am right!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is pretty much impossible to compare Jerry and Prince. Prince has a style his own, same for Jerry. The similarities that I see are basically they were both influenced by jazz. The extent that each guitarist was influenced differs.

On that note check out N.E.W.S. from Prince. A jazz album that is excellent and great song titles. North, East, West, South.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dogstarz wrote:
It is pretty much impossible to compare Jerry and Prince.

I hate this cop out of an answer... don't take this personal DS... but its total BS when people say that.
I can give you at least one category within which you can come up with practically limitless subcategories to further differentiate...
Apples and Oranges... my ass...

That major category = "ENJOYMENT"

I have gone on this rant here before, and I promise to do it every time someone says you can't compare aspects of music.
We listen to music for enjoyment, you can definitely say whose work you enjoy more... you can compare them.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kochman wrote:
dogstarz wrote:
It is pretty much impossible to compare Jerry and Prince.

I hate this cop out of an answer... don't take this personal DS... but its total BS when people say that.
I can give you at least one category within which you can come up with practically limitless subcategories to further differentiate...
Apples and Oranges... my ass...

That major category = "ENJOYMENT"

I have gone on this rant here before, and I promise to do it every time someone says you can't compare aspects of music.
We listen to music for enjoyment, you can definitely say whose work you enjoy more... you can compare them.


sorry that don't hold water for me because you are not comparing THEM, but how YOU feel about them
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you listening to them for someone else's sake? Or your own and how they make you feel?

Its art, its subjective... but jeez... you can certainly compare them within your OWN enjoyment... your results are just subjective.

Example, I like Jerry more than Bob, because he makes me smile more often...
This isn't hard.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kochman wrote:
Are you listening to them for someone else's sake? Or your own and how they make you feel?

Its art, its subjective... but jeez... you can certainly compare them within your OWN enjoyment... your results are just subjective.

Example, I like Jerry more than Bob, because he makes me smile more often...
This isn't hard.


well if you want to claim it's ART...

again I go back to there can't be a good comparison because the styles are so different..

now if they would have had some sort of show-down ala Johnny & The Devil in "The Devil Went down To Georgia" maybe we could OBJECTIVELY looks at this one
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kochman wrote:
dogstarz wrote:
It is pretty much impossible to compare Jerry and Prince.

I hate this cop out of an answer... don't take this personal DS... but its total BS when people say that.
I can give you at least one category within which you can come up with practically limitless subcategories to further differentiate...
Apples and Oranges... my ass...

That major category = "ENJOYMENT"

I have gone on this rant here before, and I promise to do it every time someone says you can't compare aspects of music.
We listen to music for enjoyment, you can definitely say whose work you enjoy more... you can compare them.


Not taken personally. I will take this as a challenge though.

So both guitarist could lay down the funk, jazz and R&B. I believe we can all agree on this.

So comparing the jazz output from both.
Garcia/Wales Hooteroll?
Excellent work and experimentation into fusion from Garcia. This is one of my favorite albums from Garcia that is not from the Grateful Dead. Garcia really doesn't explore the outer reaches as much as I would prefer. So we have Side Trips Vol. 1 (are they ever going to release a Vol. 2?!?!) This album shows Garcia in a live setting with that crazy Howard Wales. Garcia gets lost a lot through this album. Yet he manages to pull it off quite well. His exploration becomes unsettling at times (which I love) and unpredictable. This is very much unlike Grateful Dead exploration where most of us can sort of guess the next song or at least where they are going. There are exceptions though. The early-mid 1970's showed a lot of risk taking Grateful Dead. The jazz filled air that the band was living in showed throughout 73-74.

I will move onto Prince. (I never thought I would attempt to do this....ever) Prince might not be known for his guitar expertise. Sure he rocked the solo in Purple Rain. Really though, he is known for his explicit lyrics, controversy and just plain weirdness. Then The Purple One released an album called Rainbow Children in 2001. This album started to show us a different Prince. He began what I call his "jazz era". The themes were built upon common sounding jazz music.
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This leads Prince into the aforementioned N.E.W.S. he played guitar on all 4 tracks. Unlike Garcia on Side Trips Vol.1 he never once sounded lost in these free form 14:00 minute songs. His guitar style changed on each track and on the song East Prince even sounds a little angst filled with "Metallica like themes".

Now lets compare jazz background. Simply put Prince has the edge. Miles Davis opened for the Dead, Prince had planned to work with Miles on an album and even played with Miles in concert. (See Aiko's torrent above)

So now, I can compare Prince to Garcia. Garcia has the edge for his live experimentation dating back to the 60's to 95. Prince has surrounded himself with music legends. Garcia has done the same. I will give this round to Garcia.

Now lets move into the realms of funk. Garcia was in bands like Legion Of Mary and Reconstruction. These were his more funk based projects. Reconstruction being more funk the LoM. In this realm I will look at the longevity of Garcia being in this kind of band. It wasn't long at all. Now let us look at Prince. At many times he seems like the rightful successor of George Clinton's musical endeavors. Prince's song Scarlet [CENSORED] (Can be found on the B Sides album) I think is a definite link to P Funk.
In this round Prince wins.

Maybe more on this later.........
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One more thought. Love making music. Garcia is good, Prince wins though. I don't think I need to really explain myself here too much.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dogstarz wrote:
One more thought. Love making music. Garcia is good, Prince wins though. I don't think I need to really explain myself here too much.



Question

Prince is from Minneapolis - rock on baby! The Appolis rules!

Better than Jerry? No.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, DS, I like what you have attempted... but you have left out other genres that they both use...

Here is a big one...

Rock n Roll... here Jerry takes a HUGE, insurmountable lead...
And the winner, by decision (mine of course), is Jerome John Garcia!!!

We should come up with a list of 100 US guitarists better than both Prince and Jerry Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kochman wrote:
Well, DS, I like what you have attempted... but you have left out other genres that they both use...

Here is a big one...

Rock n Roll... here Jerry takes a HUGE, insurmountable lead...
And the winner, by decision (mine of course), is Jerome John Garcia!!!

We should come up with a list of 100 US guitarists better than both Prince and Jerry Laughing


100? I can do it in 1, he plays in like 100 bands so.. WARREN HAYNES

:rotflmao:!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kochman wrote:
Well, DS, I like what you have attempted... but you have left out other genres that they both use...

Here is a big one...

Rock n Roll... here Jerry takes a HUGE, insurmountable lead...
And the winner, by decision (mine of course), is Jerome John Garcia!!!

We should come up with a list of 100 US guitarists better than both Prince and Jerry Laughing


I do agree with your call on Jerry winning the Rock and Roll category. So that puts Jerry 2 and Prince 1. Jerry has won this round of guitarists that should never be compared to Jerry.....EVER. haha

Join us next week when I compare Colin Hay from Men At Work with Jerry. The points I will be looking at will be vocals and song writing.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dogstarz wrote:
Kochman wrote:
Well, DS, I like what you have attempted... but you have left out other genres that they both use...

Here is a big one...

Rock n Roll... here Jerry takes a HUGE, insurmountable lead...
And the winner, by decision (mine of course), is Jerome John Garcia!!!

We should come up with a list of 100 US guitarists better than both Prince and Jerry Laughing


I do agree with your call on Jerry winning the Rock and Roll category. So that puts Jerry 2 and Prince 1. Jerry has won this round of guitarists that should never be compared to Jerry.....EVER. haha

Join us next week when I compare Colin Hay from Men At Work with Jerry. The points I will be looking at will be vocals and song writing.
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no doubt, the boys from down unders Lyrics skills are un-matched by ANY.. thank GOD too because if they were actually good at all, I imagine we'd all be eating Vegemite sandwiches.. STILL Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aikowolf wrote:
Kochman wrote:
Well, DS, I like what you have attempted... but you have left out other genres that they both use...

Here is a big one...

Rock n Roll... here Jerry takes a HUGE, insurmountable lead...
And the winner, by decision (mine of course), is Jerome John Garcia!!!

We should come up with a list of 100 US guitarists better than both Prince and Jerry Laughing


100? I can do it in 1, he plays in like 100 bands so.. WARREN HAYNES

:rotflmao:!

Perfect! Except, wait... Haynes really only plays like 1 band, and it wasn't even his own sound there that he played...
Laughing
That guy is so overrated.
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