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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:29 pm    Post subject: 9/4/91 - Richfield Coliseum Reply with quote

I've got so much work to do, but am listening to this show (again) right now and feel compelled to share my thoughts..

Let The Good Times Roll, Jack Straw, Jack A Roe, Walkin' Blues, Friend Of The Devil, Black Throated Wind, Tennessee Jed, When I Paint My Masterpiece, Cold Rain & Snow, Promised Land

Scarlet Begonias-> Fire On The Mountain, Estimated Prophet-> He's Gone-> Drums-> Jam-> China Doll-> The Wheel-> Throwing Stones-> Not Fade Away, E: The Weight

This show deserves serious consideration as the best of 1991 for the Scarlet -> Fire alone, but the entire show smokes, from beginning to end. Ten songs in the first set--every one a winner. The first show of the 91 fall tour and they seemed to have so much energy, so much momentum. There had been so many questions about the future of the band, and this show was really reassuring. They just came out and kicked ass.

Is this the best show I ever saw? Probably. I only saw one with Brent, and I don’t think there’s one I’d rather re-live more than this one. I’d seen a bunch of good shows already in 91, including the entire spring Cap Center run, and I left this one thinking it was the best I’d seen up to that point. And that’s without a Bird Song, Terrapin, Dark Star or a major break-out (these are pretty much what I went to Dead shows for, at the end of the day). Just great, classic songs played very well.

Set I

LTGTR – Nice starter. You know you’re in for a good one. Everyone gets their vocal chords stretched out for…

Jack Straw – Yea! another sing-along. And another opener in the two-hole. This could be a great first set! Jerry/Bruce jamming hard before the “Jack Straw from Wichita!” verse...

Jack-a-Roe – Jerry makes it a “pair of Jacks.” God, I love this song!! Solid, high-energy version keeps the energy level up and Jerry gets to strut his stuff a bit. His leads are smokin’ and Bob is right on cue every time. They haven’t even played a third of the first set yet!

Walkin’ Blooz – This song lives or dies based on how Bobby handles the slide leads (Jerry’s blues leads are always sold, aren’t they?). The pace is great, Bobby’s into it, and he nails his rock star moments. And Bruce wails on the piano. I never much cared for that echoing grand piano sound, but he sounds great here.

FOTD - I don’t really like the modern, slowed-down version of FOTD. I much prefer the old, fast acoustic versions. But what can you do? They’ve done it this way since the 70s. This one is likeable enough. Gets a little muddy in the middle, but Jerry plays some solid leads around the 6-minute mark. This is probably the weakest track in the whole show, which is saying a lot, because it’s actually pretty good.

Black Throated Wind – This one always seemed appropriate at Richfield. Don’t know why, it just somehow resonates with the landscape of northeast Ohio. Weird, I know. Once again, the key here is that Bob is into it. His voice sounds great! Plus, Jerry’s having a good night. Nice fills throughout the song. Jerry’s not standing aside and waiting tonight, as he sometimes did with Bruce in the line-up. This one probably sounds better on an AUD recording.

Tennessee Jed – Now, it’s off to the country carnival, where things really start to cook. This one is tailor-made for Bruce’s piano. More great harmonies and a swinging beat. Nice crescendo at the end.

Masterpiece – “inside the Coliseum!” line also a Richfield [Coliseum] staple. The whole first set is like one big sing-along. Fun fun fun. Jerry’s really hitting all of his licks. It’s as good as this song gets. You know it’s gonna be a nice second set. This is already the eighth song of the first, and you just know they’re not going to end it with Masterpiece.

Cold Rain and Snow – Oh, okay… Surely this one’s the set closer. Shit, I love this song. Nice choice. Jerry keeping it real…

Promised Land – Whoah! Outta nowhere comes a blistering, rip-roaring Promised Land. The boys don’t miss a beat. And here’s comes Vinnie! Nice organ solo in the middle of this one. Listen to Jerry wail on “Tell the folks back home it’s the Promised Land calling, and the poor boy’s on the line!” The MIDI starts to crackle and pop a little bit at the end, foreshadowing much goodness yet to come.

By the time Bobby says, “We’ll be back in just a little bit…” You look over at your friend and say, “Wow, nice Jack-a-Roe opener!” and he’s like, “They opened with Let the Good Times Roll” dude!!” He shows you the set list… You forgot about the first two songs completely. “Wait, they played Black Throated Wind? I don’t remember anything before Tennessee Jed! WTF just happened?!” “Dude, that was a ten-song first set! And Bobby said they were coming back for more.”

Second set on the way in a minute...


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:01 pm    Post subject: Set II Reply with quote

Set II

Scarlet Begonias – Jerry leads the way right out of the gate. This is his night. Vocals are strong and assertive. The entire band is clicking. Scarlet alone goes on for over 15 minutes. The jam is just all over the place – Jerry is soaring and exploring, while everyone else tries to keep up. He must have been feeling extra good that night!

Fire on the Mountain – Highlight of the show, right here. Not content with a 15-minute Scarlet, the boys unleash a monster, 15-minute Fire! Jerry lays down sweet, synapse-straining licks. Weir’s guitar is right on. Everything’s just exactly perfect. The vocals are fine… not the best I’ve heard, but this is all about the jamming, which is inspired to say the least. The leads he pulls off in the 3:00 – 5:00 minute mark have to be heard to be believed (especially from about 4-5 mins). A couple more verses before Jerry takes control around 11:45 and spends the next four minutes wrapping up this beast with more crazed jamming. Listen to him go at the 13-minute mark!!!! Apparently there’s a whole band playing behind Jerry at this point, not that you’d ever notice. Garcia was on another plane. Listen to how funny, by contrast, that Vince’s crescendo chords sound! Jerry just plows ahead.Wow.

I don’t know what else to say about this one. I was so happy to see a Scarlet -> Fire of this quality (and length!). What a treat. I’d love to have a version with the AUD files patched in during the verses. I think that would liven up those parts of the SDB copy I have.

Estimated – Solid. Weir gets in some licks. He’s be waiting patiently for his moment. More inspired Jerry jamming from 3:50-5:00. 8 mins begins the beautiful and softly-muted exit jam into..

He’s Gone – Just totally sweet. Jerry sounds like he really means it. This is another highlight of the show. Great jamming and nice vocals at the end. I love when this song appears pre-drums… Usually means good things post-space..

Drums/Space - Very tribal.. in a sci-fi kind of way.

China Doll – One of my favorite songs emerges beautifully from Space… You never expect China Doll is coming. This is an awesome, highlight reel, version. So nice… “but failing, will not die..”

The Wheel – …to be followed by yet another classic Jerry song. That’s three in a row if you’re keeping score at home, and five out of the last six!! The Wheel is one of those songs that kinda creeps up on you. And a really nice segue from China Doll. The Fat Man’s feeling good!

Throwin’ Stones – Throw a bone to Weir… Standard, end of second set material. Weir sounds okay. I guess he’s been saving his voice for this, because he hasn’t sung lead vocals on anything since Estimated. He’s a little sloppy tho…

NFA – Standard, awesome performance here. Energetic. Great jamming. Vince's back-ups sound really nice on this. Dare I say that he channels Brent a little bit?

Encore: The Weight – Standard 91 encore, though very well executed, vocally and musically. I thought this show deserved better, but I’d have been content if they’d ended the show after The Wheel, so why quibble? Also, what better way to end a show with so many sing-alongs than with yet another? Hooray for the Dead!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice review dude, if I can get away with listening to the Dead for a 3rd night in a row, which is uncertain, I will be listening to this one.

I am not too familiar with 91 post 8/16/91, other than 9/10/91 which I love, and 10/31/91 which I find to be mediocre other than the Dark Star.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this show rules, i love it. GREAT review, man! you've inspired me to play this one now...
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got away with a partial 1st set listening last night. I like it thus far. Is there ever a bad Jack-A-Roe? This is a rhetorical question, if there is, I don't want to know about it, it would signal a whole paradigm shift for me as I don't believe it exists.

I will continue with the show as time allows.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kochman wrote:
I got away with a partial 1st set listening last night. I like it thus far. Is there ever a bad Jack-A-Roe? This is a rhetorical question, if there is, I don't want to know about it, it would signal a whole paradigm shift for me as I don't believe it exists.

I will continue with the show as time allows.


Yes. bad versions exist of every tune. I heard some crappy Jack-A-Roe's. Jerry would occasionally forget the words to this tune. And of course, the version from 6/25/95 is downright depressing. And if memeory serves me, the version on Dozin at the Knick is less than spectacular. A good JAR = smokin leads and nailing the vox.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duderino wrote:
Kochman wrote:
I got away with a partial 1st set listening last night. I like it thus far. Is there ever a bad Jack-A-Roe? This is a rhetorical question, if there is, I don't want to know about it, it would signal a whole paradigm shift for me as I don't believe it exists.

I will continue with the show as time allows.


Yes. bad versions exist of every tune. I heard some crappy Jack-A-Roe's. Jerry would occasionally forget the words to this tune. And of course, the version from 6/25/95 is downright depressing. And if memeory serves me, the version on Dozin at the Knick is less than spectacular. A good JAR = smokin leads and nailing the vox.


agreed. this one is great tho. just listened to the FOTM again on the way to work. just WOW.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, so I finished up listening to the show last night.

The highlight of the show, as you point out, is the killer Scarlet Fire... every one is clicking. Phil is taking chances, and you can tell he is liking it. Probably the coolest thing I heard, other than Jerry's guitar of course, was the sweet moments somewhere in the tranny from Vince, where he is just laying down some of the mellowest yet intense (if that makes sense) background.

In all, this is a great show, nice Estimated with Vinny again showing up with the key Sax sound. That really adds to the song.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll tell you what I love about the Fire from this show -- the wind-ups that Jerry makes over and over and over again before throwing that final punch when the song practically disintegrates and then, on a dime, comes back together into Scarlet reprise. Pure magic.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bumping this due to recent acquisition of the vid of set 2. I forget sometimes how good Jerry looked in 91. Well-rested for the first night of the fall tour. He looks happy to be back out on the road. Fire is unbelievable. Hooray!

Jerry Rocks Cheers Jerry Rocks You're Crazy Cool
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long live the ohio project
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

snow_and_rain wrote:
Bumping this due to recent acquisition of the vid of set 2. I forget sometimes how good Jerry looked in 91. Well-rested for the first night of the fall tour. He looks happy to be back out on the road. Fire is unbelievable. Hooray!

Jerry Rocks Cheers Jerry Rocks You're Crazy Cool
Thanks for urging me to make that dvd. I enjoyed watching the show again. Just sitting in a drawer collecting dust with others.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duck, did you post your list of GD DVDs? Did I miss it?
I am SURE you have some I am looking for...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kochman wrote:
Duck, did you post your list of GD DVDs? Did I miss it?
I am SURE you have some I am looking for...
I believe I did post the DVD list. I did not post my list of shows still on videotape. I also have a list of other videos in my tape collection GD related but not concerts.


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Damn. impressive list. I remember seeing on NBC nightly news in Sept 78 a story about the Dead at the Pyramids. this was when I was sort of getting into them and thought "how cool!". Also right before the Augusta 84 shows on the local NH news they had a snippet about the Dead and showed them playing Iko and BIODTL at the Centrum. Wonder if anyone has that footage!

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Duderino wrote:
Damn. impressive list. I remember seeing on NBC nightly news in Sept 78 a story about the Dead at the Pyramids. this was when I was sort of getting into them and thought "how cool!". Also right before the Augusta 84 shows on the local NH news they had a snippet about the Dead and showed them playing Iko and BIODTL at the Centrum. Wonder if anyone has that footage!
Funny you should mention Augusta 84. I just watched that show. As for local footage, I'm sure someone recorded it.
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vladsmythe wrote:
Kochman wrote:
Duck, did you post your list of GD DVDs? Did I miss it?
I am SURE you have some I am looking for...
I believe I did post the DVD list. I did not post my list of shows still on videotape. I also have a list of other videos in my tape collection GD related but not concerts.


OK, I will have to look for the list...
Hey, you need an avatar.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vladsmythe wrote:
Duderino wrote:
Damn. impressive list. I remember seeing on NBC nightly news in Sept 78 a story about the Dead at the Pyramids. this was when I was sort of getting into them and thought "how cool!". Also right before the Augusta 84 shows on the local NH news they had a snippet about the Dead and showed them playing Iko and BIODTL at the Centrum. Wonder if anyone has that footage!
Funny you should mention Augusta 84. I just watched that show. As for local footage, I'm sure someone recorded it.

I have the Augusta vid floating around my house somewhere but can't find it.
Jerry is looking his alltime worst in that one. Great show but his appearance is disturbing.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To bring us back on track after a ruthless hijacking, went back and listened to 9/4/91 2nd set again last night...
Still have the same thoughts, the S>F is sweet, in particular the FOTM... Estimated is also hot as they come. Great show.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember going to these 3 three shows at Richfield. Other than the greatness of the show itself, there were a few other strange happenings in Richfield this particular evening. I remember the bathrooms being completely overrun with water. I am still not sure why, but there was "water" an inch deep on the floor. Gross! After this fantastic show, we walked out into a very dense fog. I drove at 20-40 miles per hour on the interstate to reach the campground. This was pretty intense. I vividly remember being relieved when we reached the campground and could finally relax. Does anyone else remember this?
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Grateful_nirvanA wrote:
I remember going to these 3 three shows at Richfield. Other than the greatness of the show itself, there were a few other strange happenings in Richfield this particular evening. I remember the bathrooms being completely overrun with water. I am still not sure why, but there was "water" an inch deep on the floor. Gross! After this fantastic show, we walked out into a very dense fog. I drove at 20-40 miles per hour on the interstate to reach the campground. This was pretty intense. I vividly remember being relieved when we reached the campground and could finally relax. Does anyone else remember this?


I had that exact same driving to the campground experience. We stayed at some totally random place run by Mormons.
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kochman wrote:
To bring us back on track after a ruthless hijacking, went back and listened to 9/4/91 2nd set again last night...
Still have the same thoughts, the S>F is sweet, in particular the FOTM... Estimated is also hot as they come. Great show.


Did the same and I love this second set. Lights out..some of my favorite 91
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