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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:07 am    Post subject: source information Reply with quote

i have a question about sources...i know there are several different ways to obtain a concert...ones i can think of are sbd...thats pretty self explainatory, then theres the various AUD captures where someone using a mic and records it with whatever they have.. then there is the FM source...kind of confused about this. and the pre fm source. the FM source im guessing is from when a radio station plays the concert on their radio and someone records it? or is there more to it than that..the prefm i have no idea what it is or how it is obtained...can someone clarify any of this more me?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:57 am    Post subject: Re: source information Reply with quote

Grateful_Deadhead wrote:
i have a question about sources...i know there are several different ways to obtain a concert...ones i can think of are sbd...thats pretty self explainatory, then theres the various AUD captures where someone using a mic and records it with whatever they have.. then there is the FM source...kind of confused about this. and the pre fm source. the FM source im guessing is from when a radio station plays the concert on their radio and someone records it? or is there more to it than that..the prefm i have no idea what it is or how it is obtained...can someone clarify any of this more me?


My understanding is that Pre-FM is basically a line directly from the SBD that streams the data/noise to the radio transmitter. So, it is basically a SBD.
FM loses some of the highs and lows, so it is an important distinction.

Then there is the matrix as well, which is generally created by taking the best sources (hopefully) of an AUD and a SBD and mashing them together in order to get the proper sounds (not distorted by stadium acoustics vs. mics) as well as to maintain the energy of the show displayed by the crowd, and when applicable, to grab any sound(s)/instrument(s) that were better in the AUD source than the SBD.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ahh glad you menioned the matrix, seems ive heard matrixs that are really soundboard sounding, originally i thought a matrix was just the mixing of two versions to complete a show. like when an aud captures part of a show that a sbd cut out or something, but ive heard matrixs that dont have that, and its become confusing.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are varying degrees of quality within the matrix realm. Some suck.

Also, as you mentioned sometimes it seems as though only one source is there. Sometimes a show's two sources... one or both are incomplete, and during those moments, the show will only be from one source obviously. Of course, this happens in every day shows as well, where you get a sudden AUD patch in a SBD recording.

I forgot to mention FOB, which is front of board, which really is just an AUD that may be better than average. It is likely, but not sure thing, to be better than most straight AUDs. Sometimes other AUDs are probably FOBs but the recorder at the time didn't make the distinction at the time, and forgot about it later.
FOB = AUD
Matrix = SBD + AUD/FOB
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:37 pm    Post subject: Downloading Show Reply with quote

How can I get the 2/9/73 show downloaded? I am a new member , followed the download link , went to 1973 the 2/9/93 and clicked on songs and receive message "not available" Is this show available for download anywhere? How may I access the 2/9/73 show? Thanks much.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 2:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Downloading Show Reply with quote

direrain wrote:
How can I get the 2/9/73 show downloaded? I am a new member , followed the download link , went to 1973 the 2/9/93 and clicked on songs and receive message "not available" Is this show available for download anywhere? How may I access the 2/9/73 show? Thanks much.

Welcome aboard...
I just checked the link, and it is working.
Did you follow the instructions?

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There is a technique involved...

Let me know if that answers your question.
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