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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 5:04 pm    Post subject: Suggest me a Dark/Obscure Brent era show Reply with quote

I have to admit I can't wait for the 80s to come as for a full download, for now its the turn of the 1973 as far as my visits to the LMA are concerned!

I had so much fun with the 12/31/84 show ... expecially for the surprise of a long dark jammy Shakedown (17 min long) which to me was unexpected, the Drums/Space/spanich jam .... awsome!

Now please suggest me some dark/obscure/toxic/Adoult only GD "brent era" show!

Now .... those descriptions have different meanings to each of us so ... please feel free and suggest

Please provide a link to the LMA with suggested best source Very Happy

I would like to make a review of the one I will choose, but .... brrrrr .... I want suspance!!!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this one is the best source - recall it being better than the Miller. But if any question try the other source.

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I swear by this show.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow... ok 4/21/86...
There is a Brent meltdown that is for the ages...

Brent stays out for drums, and takes them into "Maybe You Know"... he's literally breaking down emotionally during this portion...
At some point, Garcia comes out, to the rescue...

Check it out Tizi...

Start at Eyes, finish the set.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll throw
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out as a deep, dark show.

The Playin thru the post SpaceTerrapin is trippy.


86 has some good dark shows as well as a few TWO SONG pre-drums!!!

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Playin>UJB>Jam>D/S>China Doll>Playing Reprise>GDTRFB

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Ah yes....a 5 minute Eyes and a three minute Other One. Thanks Guys!!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wow... ok 4/21/86...
There is a Brent meltdown that is for the ages...

Brent stays out for drums, and takes them into "Maybe You Know"... he's literally breaking down emotionally during this portion...
At some point, Garcia comes out, to the rescue...

Check it out Tizi...

Start at Eyes, finish the set.


Suggested source? Tino you know I'm lazy .... c'mon! Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have decided to make some kind of dark/weird GD show compilation ... the one you want to listen like when you whish to take a deep breath of hydrogene and jump in hyperspace after that.

LatelyI am on the 1973 era which ispure gold but it has a lot's of nice, well executed short I set songs. Now .... I do love them but I have found that lately I am going directly to II sets (I don't know if that ever happened to you) ... as a need to find something more nasty/mean!!!

I don't want to get into improper comparisons but .... what the hell I do love being blown away ... to wake up and say "what has happened here!".

Now I have looked to all the suggestions and all of them will be examined to adetail by means of introduction in my I Pod! I love the fact that those shows seem "unexplored" for there are not many comments... I love that "unexplored territories".

I will try to make a review of each of those shows!!!!!!!! Twisted Evil

Please feel free to add more suggestion to this "perverted" GD compilation!

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

9/4/83 Park West
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10/15/83

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4/14/84

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10/12/84 - plenty of AUD's of this classic show, but I gave you the SBD and probably the best aud source.

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10/18/84 - This is a SMOKIN Dark show that is underrated.

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Basically, anything else from the Oct. Fall tour is DARK.
10/5, 10/8, 10/9. 10/14, 10/15, 10/17, 10/20 and the Berkely run are all great, with some very good recordings.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I knew that your vast and valuable suggestions would come Duderino, thanks!

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tizi wrote:
I knew that your vast and valuable suggestions would come Duderino, thanks!


You are velkommin, kammerad!!!

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, well............... it seems that my systematic 1973 downloading project will have to be suspended Confused

Can't wait tomorrow ........... I'll start with the very same order I got the suggestions , so Swami your suggestion is first!

Now this setlist seems awesome:

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Set 1

Sugaree ->
Little Red Rooster
Friend Of The Devil
My Brother Esau
Bird Song
Hell In A Bucket ->
Deal

Set 2

Touch Of Grey
Samson And Delilah
To Lay Me Down ->
Man Smart (Woman Smarter)
Terrapin Station ->
Drums ->
Space ->
The Wheel ->
I Need A Miracle ->
Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad ->
Good Lovin'

Encore
Revolution

You have to respect a set list with more than 30 mins of Terrapin > Drums > Space

Does this show enters in this topic? I haven't heard it yet, but I am sure someone of you did it!

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tizi wrote:
well, well............... it seems that my systematic 1973 downloading project will have to be suspended Confused

Can't wait tomorrow ........... I'll start with the very same order I got the suggestions , so Swami your suggestion is first!

Now this setlist seems awesome:

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Set 1

Sugaree ->
Little Red Rooster
Friend Of The Devil
My Brother Esau
Bird Song
Hell In A Bucket ->
Deal

Set 2

Touch Of Grey
Samson And Delilah
To Lay Me Down ->
Man Smart (Woman Smarter)
Terrapin Station ->
Drums ->
Space ->
The Wheel ->
I Need A Miracle ->
Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad ->
Good Lovin'

Encore
Revolution

You have to respect a set list with more than 30 mins of Terrapin > Drums > Space

Does this show enters in this topic? I haven't heard it yet, but I am sure someone of you did it!

The first set is where it is at for this show. 16.5 mminute Sugaree, great versions of FOTD and Birdsong and a ridiculous 10 minute Deal. The 2nd set smokes, but not as jammy as Set I.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

swamiGD80s wrote:
I think this one is the best source - recall it being better than the Miller. But if any question try the other source.

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I swear by this show.


Thanks man!!!! Listening right now to Deal (pure napalm!)

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

duderino mentioned 10/20/84 already, but I second it as a dark dark one. 10/12 and 10/20 feel like the yin and yang of the mid 80's to me: 10/12 seems so joyous, so warm, so overflowing with that family vibe, and 10/20 sounds testy, pissed off, and mean, but still really hot. Some wicked stuff in that one, but I also really dig the brief oasis of the funny little jam after Smokestack that sounds like something they'd cook up circa 73-74 and the amazing marimba/Jerry space.

random association, and I know this is a Brent-era thread, but tizi keeps mentioning his 73 kick, so I submit the oft-overlooked 6/29/73:

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The jam out of the Other One into Dew is most definitely dark, especially by 73 standards -- not screechy or ear-shredding, just dark.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dark = good...
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kochman wrote:
Dark = good...


Well it depends this is very personal. When I am in the mood foe a "dark" show I love that strange mystic aurea ... dark means ... to me ... a weird ambient (hard to explain).

It is more like a strog Space/weird China Doll or Days Between or PITB kind of ambient where you feel a deep foggy haze in your brain ... as opposed to Reckoning (which I love but it is a "easy listening" compilation).

I want a "dark collection of shows"

.... I hope it makes sense .... Swami got it I heard his suggestion and I love it so far!

Thanks also for the 1973 suggestion, I'm opened to all of that!!!

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nickJ wrote:
duderino mentioned 10/20/84 already, but I second it as a dark dark one. 10/12 and 10/20 feel like the yin and yang of the mid 80's to me: 10/12 seems so joyous, so warm, so overflowing with that family vibe, and 10/20 sounds testy, pissed off, and mean, but still really hot. Some wicked stuff in that one, but I also really dig the brief oasis of the funny little jam after Smokestack that sounds like something they'd cook up circa 73-74 and the amazing marimba/Jerry space.

random association, and I know this is a Brent-era thread, but tizi keeps mentioning his 73 kick, so I submit the oft-overlooked 6/29/73:

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The jam out of the Other One into Dew is most definitely dark, especially by 73 standards -- not screechy or ear-shredding, just dark.


10/12's 1st set was definitely upbeat, but once they go into that jam after Uncle Johns' things get thick and dark.
BTW - the "testy, pissed off mean" vibe of 10/20 was due to the pack Carrier Dome, major crowding on the floor, hence Bobby's comments. I heard it was a nightmare. The band definitely plays with aggression.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My father took my mother to her first show on 10/20/84 and she hated it...she has since grown to at least tolerate it.

I agree with the pick though...one of my favorites of the year!

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two shows with a dark vibe were, for me: 7/14/81 and the PITB from 10/11/84.

I've never thought of 10/20/84 as being a dark show, though definitely has a spookiness, especially post drums. The whole run from Space through Lovelight is other-worldly, for sure.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zephyr wrote:
Two shows with a dark vibe were, for me: 7/14/81 and the PITB from 10/11/84.

I've never thought of 10/20/84 as being a dark show, though definitely has a spookiness, especially post drums. The whole run from Space through Lovelight is other-worldly, for sure.


Yeah, that out of control Playin' jam on 10/11 was spooky (I love your letter to the Golden Road on this...) Ship Playin>D>S>Mr. Fantasy>Black Peter - pretty dark territory, especially when sung by a greasy haired, unwashed, unsmilng, obese junky hunchback Shocked

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yeah, that out of control Playin' jam on 10/11 was spooky (I love your letter to the Golden Road on this...) Ship Playin>D>S>Mr. Fantasy>Black Peter - pretty dark territory, especially when sung by a greasy haired, unwashed, unsmilng, obese junky hunchback Shocked

Fortunately for me, during the post-drums segment Garcia looked a lot like Moses, while Weir and Lesh looked like powerful Archangels using their guitars as tractor beams to keep Garcia from floating off into the Celestial Beyond.

Earlier that same night, during the frenzied Playin' jam, they all looked like cannibals. Mickey and Billy were pounding on the outside of the boiling cauldron while the others performed a wicked cannibal dance around the fire. The audience was, via some sort of diabolical magic, actually inside the cauldron.

All true. Where's the video?

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zephyr wrote:
Duderino wrote:
Yeah, that out of control Playin' jam on 10/11 was spooky (I love your letter to the Golden Road on this...) Ship Playin>D>S>Mr. Fantasy>Black Peter - pretty dark territory, especially when sung by a greasy haired, unwashed, unsmilng, obese junky hunchback Shocked

Fortunately for me, during the post-drums segment Garcia looked a lot like Moses, while Weir and Lesh looked like powerful Archangels using their guitars as tractor beams to keep Garcia from floating off into the Celestial Beyond.

Earlier that same night, during the frenzied Playin' jam, they all looked like cannibals. Mickey and Billy were pounding on the outside of the boiling cauldron while the others performed a wicked cannibal dance around the fire. The audience was, via some sort of diabolical magic, actually inside the cauldron.

All true. Where's the video?


THIS IS DARK AND OBSCURE FOR SURE Laughing

A lot material regarding the "dark side" of the GD here .......

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I drove from San Diego to this one. My second Brent show, and the second Brent show in CA. One of the lesser known (at least discussed) shows. The place was old and wooden. I think they used to have political rallies and stuff in it. Also the hall was scorching hot! The show itself was not.

Grateful Dead
Sacramento Auditorium
Sacramento, CA
June 28, 1979

DISC ONE - 1st Set
Don't Ease
Minglewood
They Love Each Other
Mama Tried>
Mexicali
Tech Diff/Happy BDay Brent
Peggy O
All Over Now
Stagger Lee
Passenger
Loser
Music Never Stopped

DISC TWO - 2nd Set
Scarlet>
Fire
Samson & Delilah
Ship of Fools

DISC THREE - 2nd Set (cont)
Playin'>
Eyes>
Drums>
Not Fade>
Black Peter>
Around & Around

Encore
U.S. Blues
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