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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 1:39 pm    Post subject: Vladsmythe/Graceful Duck - Pay Attention - Probation Reply with quote

Without going into a diatribe about your specific behavior, we have all seen it and even you know you have acted like a fruitcake...

You have several valued members here saying they are sick and tired of it and something has to change... meaning, you either gotta shape up or ship out, as they say, per the charter of the site.

When you are on, you have great posts, you share, etc... this is great. Keep with this stuff, for the love of God!

Consider yourself on probation, people are tired of your shit. I would love for you to turn it around and be the good Duck. Not saying you have to be an angel, but you have to do better...

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am sure Duck will make it very well known in the shoutbox, and log in with new usernames, etc...
He failed to change, in fact, at the last LP, he even told me he didn't need to change.
Well, this town isn't big enough for the two of us, and while no one is perfect, it has gone far enough.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so are you going to ban him or whats gona happen to our favorite waterfowl?

Edit: nvm i see that its already been done.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know you have your reasons, but I'm disappointed by this development. Again, not to say that people don't have legitimate gripes, but I for one enjoy having Duck around.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

snow_and_rain wrote:
I know you have your reasons, but I'm disappointed by this development. Again, not to say that people don't have legitimate gripes, but I for one enjoy having Duck around.

Believe me, I didn't want to do it, I am disappointed too...
I enjoyed Duck too, when he wasn't being a penis.
I have said it before, and I will say it again... I have yet to know a deadhead who doesn't have issues... but come on alread.

I know this will upset some people, but the fact is, a bunch of folks stopped coming recently and his antics are a big part of that. I can only keep my cool for so long before I get sick of the drama... and then you have Duck and me being assholes, it spreads to others who are now also being assholes to each other, other people take hiatuses, dogs and cats living together, and basically all the worst parts of the Bible ensue...
And for what? One guy to stroke his ego with mental masturbation?

I tried several times to get him to change his ways and relax a bit... but if we look at it, he clearly had no intention of changing his behavior for the better, as illustrated by our chatbox conversation from Saturday Night, below.
This shows he just didn't care to change how he was behaving.
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Cheesebeer: what makes the duck tick?
Kochman: other than foilage
Gracefulduck: not a thing
Kochman: then why are you a huge prick at times?
Gracefulduck: i'm not
Kochman: seriously
Cheesebeer: a defense mechanism perhaps
Gracefulduck: you guys dont get it
Kochman: I think a hunger for attention at the minimum
Cheesebeer: your right, and that's why i asked.
Cheesebeer: make us understand, humor me for a second.
Cheesebeer: say whatever you want.
Gracefulduck: I dig life, and don't dig stupid
Cheesebeer: a zen koan if i've ever heard one.
Kochman: then, why, pray tell, do you act stupid a lot of the time?
Gracefulduck: I have a need for attentention
Kochman: yes, this is clear
Kochman: is that it?
Gracefulduck: Not unlike John Lennon
Cheesebeer: we all do but most of us focus it into something.
Kochman: because we can give you attention, just not on demand
Gracefulduck: So I misbehave
Kochman: but you are a cool dude, why be a penis 50% of the time
Kochman: nice jam here
Cheesebeer: misbehave constructively
Gracefulduck: Nothing more than misbehavior
Kochman: focus like a laserbeam duck
Gracefulduck: My report cards say the same thing
Kochman: but you are 50+ now
Cheesebeer: i am rowdy, but i don't drop trou and piss on the floor of the gas station.
Kochman: Bob is driving the spanish part of this jam
Kochman: great pick cheese
Cheesebeer: thanks, this one had allman guests too.
Kochman: oh yeah?
Kochman: nice...
Cheesebeer: yeah, this is a fragment source, but the other sources should say who was in on the jam.
Kochman: i have a pick for us
Gracefulduck: No matter. By 50 most of us are who we have become.
Kochman: 8/21/83 Big RR>LIG
Gracefulduck: I was there
Kochman: let me know when ready
Kochman: but, by 50, most of us have hopefully matured
Cheesebeer:
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Kochman: ready?
Cheesebeer: yes
Gracefulduck: [CENSORED] you for presuming to figure out how I, or anyone else should be.
Kochman: duck, it isn't like I am the only one calling you into question here
Kochman: so don't get all crazy on me
Cheesebeer: you sound like Anakin Skywalker pouting though too.
Kochman: you have been a cast iron penis here recently
Gracefulduck: then toss me
Kochman: lol, anakin, perfect
Cheesebeer: yes, and the other posters are valuable.
Kochman: rather than toss you, how about you stop being a cast iron penis?
Cheesebeer: the dynamic is nice, keep adding to the dynamic, yes.
Cheesebeer: it will be nice either way, but you can participate if you wnat.


This conversation basically showed me that the dude didn't care. I think we all know he was given chances, and now like Cliff Hucker/Masons Owner before him, he was shown the door. Just like with Cliff, it will work out for the best. He wasn't here to do anything but stroke his own ego.

It sucks, but it is what it is.

If anyone wants, I have his e-mail, and I can send him your contact info.

Also, feel free, anyone, to speak your mind, or launch into a diatribe about how terrible I am for doing this, or whatever... but unlike Duck, try to keep it somewhat focused to this thread... instead of spam posting it on every thread you have the time to pull up.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the duck and hes a cool dude when he wants to be. But the constant cry for attention got old. I like all the members here including duck , but when they begin to be huge pricks or purposefully try to make people get angry on here, then i believe the person should be shown the door. I'm sure it sucked for you do it Koch, but i believe it will be good in the long run.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe I missed it, but I don't really see anything in that chat message except the two of you harassing him. I'm not saying that there haven't been issues - clearly there have been issues - but that really doesn't seem like the best example of it. If you call someone a prick enough times, don't you think that they might get a little irritated?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The point of posting that conversation wasn't to show he was being a dick at the time... he was being fine at the time. It was pretty civil overall.

The point was, he showed, with his own words, that he just didn't give a [CENSORED] about changing, despite a lot of people asking him to.

Therein lies the problem.

I know you don't have a problem with the guy... but...
When several folks who have 1,000+ posts are complaining, and I think you would agree anyone with that many posts here has seen the Pub at its best, and worst... complaining and leaving... well...
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no problem with this. How does someone amass such an awesome collection and offer to send anything? But 50%+ of the time be a complete dickhead? Who knows, glad he's gone I don't have to open threads and see that it's him being a douche or, here's a duck favorite, post some sweet pics, then take them down within a couple days because no one posted saying anything (which clearly means that no one liked and appreciate them Rolling Eyes ) that got old pretty fucking quick.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is what it is, you did follow the rules, by having the ban poll.. Although I don't remember how that ended. Either way, the show must go on.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to agree with snowandrain on this issue. I guess the new precedent being set is that if any given member of the Pub causes "X" number of valued other Pub members to stop posting in threads for "Y" period of time, then banned they shall be. Certainly an decision made by Kochman's executive privilege, which I don't begrudge him in any way, but not one that I would make.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swamiGD80s wrote:
I have to agree with snowandrain on this issue. I guess the new precedent being set is that if any given member of the Pub causes "X" number of valued other Pub members to stop posting in threads for "Y" period of time, then banned they shall be. Certainly an decision made by Kochman's executive privilege, which I don't begrudge him in any way, but not one that I would make.

New precedent?
Not at all Swami, re-read the site's charter. The charter was the very first post here and is pretty clear.
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2) This being said, the idea here is not to abuse the freedom of speech granted, but to use it constructively.
3) Other members, when someone crosses the line, LET HIM/HER/IT KNOW IT! Several people get on board and tell the offender that he/she/it offends. The burden is on you, self-censor. If you are told to "stop", then STOP!

Duck was told by many others to back off, warned by me publicly and privately many times, and still didn't give a shit, per his own words. So, he got the plank...

You also didn't want to ban Cliff Hucker/Masons Owner. I believe you also said that would set a bad precedent, despite following the charter in that case as well.

Now we are down Cliff Hucker/Masons Owner and Vladsmythe/Graceful Duck over the course of 2 years... I know we are better off for having keel-hauled Cliff...

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Anyhow, this is the last I will post on the topic. We kept to the Code, end of story.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chingsinkly wrote:
I have no problem with this. How does someone amass such an awesome collection and offer to send anything? But 50%+ of the time be a complete dickhead? Who knows, glad he's gone I don't have to open threads and see that it's him being a douche or, here's a duck favorite, post some sweet pics, then take them down within a couple days because no one posted saying anything (which clearly means that no one liked and appreciate them Rolling Eyes ) that got old pretty fucking quick.


I realize this isn't the only thing that you all are complaining about, but the complaints about him taking his pictures down are ridiculous. I mean, who cares? So he took them down. Why do you care?

Whatever else that LP exchange referenced above might prove, it proves quite clearly to me that you were trying to drive him away by harassing him and calling him names. Not very cool if you ask me. What exactly do you think will be gained by asking someone something like, "So, just why are you such a prick?"
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The John Lennon reference Shocked Laughing Good riddance Exclamation It'a about time.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

snow_and_rain wrote:
Maybe I missed it, but I don't really see anything in that chat message except the two of you harassing him. I'm not saying that there haven't been issues - clearly there have been issues - but that really doesn't seem like the best example of it. If you call someone a prick enough times, don't you think that they might get a little irritated?


Yes, exactly. I just don't get the constant campaign to get Duck to change either. Why did he have to change? So what if he didn't play nice? Makes no sense why people can't just ignore him per the previous thread.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He was asked to change because he was fucking with people and their work. I am guessing most of you did not recieve the type of ridiculous PM's that I got from him..That does not really matter anyways....I guess my only question is how do we benefit by having a member who is constantly causing problems with multiple people, being told to stop and his response is [CENSORED] you??

How does this help us? I am glad he is gone and it has nothing to do with me liking him or not. It has to do with him bringing this place to a screeching halt every time he has a tantrum. I think difference of opinion is good, deliberately sabatoging every thread is not. There is a difference, whether you agree with my opinion or not. It does say in the charter that if you are asked to stop, then stop.

My whole thing with this was we would end up here anyways, which we did.

I am glad he is gone. OK then, adios Duck!
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fillmoreeast wrote:
The John Lennon reference Shocked Laughing Good riddance Exclamation It'a about time.


This is another problem. I think a lot of people don't get his jokes.
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Why Duck doesn't just start his own forum and chat deal is completely beyond me. What happened to trackerless torrents, or the plethora of ideas he had before that? Why all the epic fails at other sites? I thought this was a unique forum and he would add a lot but in adding, he has subtracted a bunch and irritated a bunch of people.
The chat referenced above is the latter part of the conversation, he was being a jackass and we really wanted to work with him and get down to brass tacks.
Anyone who sees issue with how this was dealt with, Snowandrain, Swami, try to encourage him to start his own site, I think that is a good idea for him.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Count me in on the side that was getting annoyed and pissed at Duck. I have nothing pesonal against the cat, but I came to that LP the other night and I guess was there when it first started. I left as soon as it did.

I like hanging out here and all, but I don't need to read or hear about The Duck Grievence 4500 times in a week. Yes I could ignore it, but why should I? It's a chatbox and you have to read the posts to keep up with the discussion. It mucked up everything.

Duck, good luck man! I hope you find peace and happiness somewhere.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had fun with the Duck!!!!

I uderstand Koch perfectly and agree with the ban, I didn't know that many of the other people here started to leave or ... at least started to seriously think about leaving.

So, I guess it would be worst keep Duck and lose more friends, who have posted a lots of interesting suggestions and news.

.... and yes you can't change a person expecially if it is + 50 ... but it is possible to ask for sefl controll as Koch did costantly! The Duck didn't show at least the will to try to controll itself ........

Let' go on then, my friends this is about it for me!

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fillmoreeast wrote:
The John Lennon reference Shocked Laughing Good riddance Exclamation It'a about time.


I think you mis-understand his point. Self-flattering as it may seem, John Lennon was a jerk and he made no apologies for it really. In fact, he proclaimed it. Duck is a Beatles fan, and though the comparison is clumsey, I think duck was being honest.
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Willie wrote:
fillmoreeast wrote:
The John Lennon reference Shocked Laughing Good riddance Exclamation It'a about time.


I think you mis-understand his point. Self-flattering as it may seem, John Lennon was a jerk and he made no apologies for it really. In fact, he proclaimed it. Duck is a Beatles fan, and though the comparison is clumsey, I think duck was being honest.


Hi Willie

Welcome aboard. Your first post is in regards to someone taking a quote out of context as it pertains to Duck?

How well do you know Duck?
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Or rather, how well did you know John?

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Or rather, how well did you know John?

Lennon was a jerk in many of his personal dealings, and as Willie said, he fessed up to it. Lennon bios are pretty fascinating in this aspect.
Case in point (and this is not to be offensive to anyone) - when Brian Epstein mentioned he was thinking about writing an autobiography, Lennon sarcastically replied "what are you going to call it - "Queer Jew"?

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It shouldn't come as much of a surprise that Willie was another Duck IP...

And, Duck, next time you slip in here under another assumed name, remember this...
John Lennon may have been an unrepentant jerk, but he had a lot more to offer than you do. We can all get your offerings elsewhere... John's contributions were unique and lasting. And he also didn't force himself upon others.


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Kochman wrote:
It shouldn't come as much of a surprise that Willie was another Duck IP...

And, Duck, next time you slip in here under another assumed name, remember this...
John Lennon may have been an unrepentant jerk, but he had a lot more to offer than you do. We can all get your offerings elsewhere... John's contributions were unique.

Damn, that duck is a clever waterfowl! Oh yes, Lennon's pluses completely outweight the minuses, in terms of musical output and social/cultural impact.

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Kochman wrote:
It shouldn't come as much of a surprise that Willie was another Duck IP...

And, Duck, next time you slip in here under another assumed name, remember this...
John Lennon may have been an unrepentant jerk, but he had a lot more to offer than you do. We can all get your offerings elsewhere... John's contributions were unique and lasting. And he also didn't force himself upon others.


LOL The duck got phucked
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Yeah, looks like Duck really went all out to slip that one in under the radar. Amazing that you guys had the penetrating insight to see through that one.
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Haha, yes, pure genious... my dog sniffed him out right away and alerted me first thing in the morning.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Willy / Duck .... it took him so long to get in here? Confused

Let's just say that I belive he is in here under 3, 6, 12 different names!!!!!

I see him all over the place, by the way my last theory is that the Duck is ..............

Koch

Yes and this is in fact Graceful Dick's Forum ... but we don't know it yet! You know something like "Lost" the TV series.

Now I'll go to sleep and will be thinking about it!!!!

Maybe I'll star a therad about it.

Yes ... last but not least: if someone writes "nice thread" I will get the message

Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing WHAT?!?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about letting Duck back in Land Lubber's for LPs - does anyone really object to this? You can keep him out of your precious thread discussions here, but he is good company at the LPs and has good stories to offer from his days on tour. There are only a handful of you out there who regularly participate in the LPs, so for those of you that visit Land Lubber's - are you really concerned about falling "victim" to a Spamming attack from Vlad?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swamiGD80s wrote:
How about letting Duck back in Land Lubber's for LPs - does anyone really object to this? You can keep him out of your precious thread discussions here, but he is good company at the LPs and has good stories to offer from his days on tour. There are only a handful of you out there who regularly participate in the LPs, so for those of you that visit Land Lubber's - are you really concerned about falling "victim" to a Spamming attack from Vlad?


Yes I am! He goes in there and bitches and complains about how Koch screwed him. It's not like you can ignore him on the chat either. He posts and you pretty much have to pay attention as he takes away from any discussion about anything relevent unless of course it's about him!

Yes, he has a great collection and can contribute some amazing things. But he also drags the whole chat down. Last week I get into an LP and he had like 33 log ins. He left soon after or Koch saw through the BS and quashed it.

He was warned. MULTIPLE TIMES!! He saw the fallout of his action as a number of us chimed in. He had ample time to quit fucking up peoples work. He CHOSE not too. He CHOSE to make LP's a forum for his displeasure . He was again asked to stop. He didn't.

I have nothing personal against the guy and I hope he finds peace and happiness somewhere. I for one exit immediately when he breaks into the chat. I come in to escape drama, I have enough in my life already, I'm tired of being caught up in his.

And as far as OUR PRECIOUS threads. Dude, that is a smack to the folks that put up threads. No offense bro, but you post a thread every now and then. Your threads are GREAT additions to this forum and we all appreciate them. Having said that, your threads weren't spammed, you work not mocked by his own search for attention.

To mock certain members of how they feel about their threads is bullshit. You using " your precious threads" is an attack fueled with sarcasm and a holier than thou aire. Maybe I'm taking you a little different then you meant to come off. I hope that maybe something was lost in the internet translations. If not, then you know where I stand on it.
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I am opposed to letting duck back into chatango for any reason. And I'm not comfortable with him constantly lurking there, often under more than one name. I'm also tired of him trying to converse with me through the PM function of the chatango box, and have repeatedly told him I won't communicate with him there, and yet he persists.
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swamiGD80s wrote:
How about letting Duck back in Land Lubber's for LPs - does anyone really object to this? You can keep him out of your precious thread discussions here, but he is good company at the LPs and has good stories to offer from his days on tour. There are only a handful of you out there who regularly participate in the LPs, so for those of you that visit Land Lubber's - are you really concerned about falling "victim" to a Spamming attack from Vlad?


You better stop while you are ahead or I will make you cry again. Wink
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Zephyr wrote:
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I have no idea about the Duck, I really don't mind him, but a lot of people do!
On the other hand a decision have passed.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How about letting Duck back in Land Lubber's for LPs - does anyone really object to this? You can keep him out of your precious thread discussions here, but he is good company at the LPs and has good stories to offer from his days on tour. There are only a handful of you out there who regularly participate in the LPs, so for those of you that visit Land Lubber's - are you really concerned about falling "victim" to a Spamming attack from Vlad?


You better stop while you are ahead or I will make you cry again. Wink


You're so clever with your words and use of those emoticons. How bout you do the world a favor and drive off a tall bridge somewhere.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

swamiGD80s wrote:
skobud wrote:
swamiGD80s wrote:
How about letting Duck back in Land Lubber's for LPs - does anyone really object to this? You can keep him out of your precious thread discussions here, but he is good company at the LPs and has good stories to offer from his days on tour. There are only a handful of you out there who regularly participate in the LPs, so for those of you that visit Land Lubber's - are you really concerned about falling "victim" to a Spamming attack from Vlad?


You better stop while you are ahead or I will make you cry again. Wink


You're so clever with your words and use of those emoticons. How bout you do the world a favor and drive off a tall bridge somewhere.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How about letting Duck back in Land Lubber's for LPs - does anyone really object to this? You can keep him out of your precious thread discussions here, but he is good company at the LPs and has good stories to offer from his days on tour. There are only a handful of you out there who regularly participate in the LPs, so for those of you that visit Land Lubber's - are you really concerned about falling "victim" to a Spamming attack from Vlad?

How about...
NO.
Why do you carry such a torch for this flaming asshole?

If you want to talk to him, call him up. He's done here, get over it, never going to change... especially for chats.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And as far as OUR PRECIOUS threads. Dude, that is a smack to the folks that put up threads. No offense bro, but you post a thread every now and then. Your threads are GREAT additions to this forum and we all appreciate them. Having said that, your threads weren't spammed, you work not mocked by his own search for attention.

To mock certain members of how they feel about their threads is bullshit. You using " your precious threads" is an attack fueled with sarcasm and a holier than thou aire. Maybe I'm taking you a little different then you meant to come off. I hope that maybe something was lost in the internet translations. If not, then you know where I stand on it.

It is not only BS, lucasmcain, it is total hypocrisy... Swami, how many times have you complained about your and other people's threads getting "hijacked"??!!
We both know the answer is... almost constantly.


Bottom line with Duck, as I told him in his "don't let the door hit you in the ass" e-mail, we all have issues.
However, he creates an amount of drama that people aren't comfortable with, and is totally unrepentant in doing so.

I don't know about you guys, but I really don't need his issues spilling out over the screen into my lap because I have enough on my own issues to deal with.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hard to believe this guy (Duck or whoever) is getting so much discussion. Koch, bury this thing and lock it up!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hard to believe this guy (Duck or whoever) is getting so much discussion. Koch, bury this thing and lock it up!!!


Agreed. This thread is on the way to a complete meltdown. If it hasn't reached that level already.

I will give Duck props for starting a bigger online scandal than BCE nonsense.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Better that everyone says what they need to say than to lock it down...

Besides, DS, meltdowns are fun in retrospect! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Better that everyone says what they need to say than to lock it down...

Besides, DS, meltdowns are fun in retrospect! Very Happy


I will agree on the retrospect thing to some degree.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes it is incredible that we are still talking about this ...............
I do think enough has been said about this issue, let's not make a legend out of it.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kochman wrote:
lucasmcain wrote:
And as far as OUR PRECIOUS threads. Dude, that is a smack to the folks that put up threads. No offense bro, but you post a thread every now and then. Your threads are GREAT additions to this forum and we all appreciate them. Having said that, your threads weren't spammed, you work not mocked by his own search for attention.

To mock certain members of how they feel about their threads is bullshit. You using " your precious threads" is an attack fueled with sarcasm and a holier than thou aire. Maybe I'm taking you a little different then you meant to come off. I hope that maybe something was lost in the internet translations. If not, then you know where I stand on it.

It is not only BS, lucasmcain, it is total hypocrisy... Swami, how many times have you complained about your and other people's threads getting "hijacked"??!!
We both know the answer is... almost constantly.





Bottom line with Duck, as I told him in his "don't let the door hit you in the ass" e-mail, we all have issues.
However, he creates an amount of drama that people aren't comfortable with, and is totally unrepentant in doing so.

I don't know about you guys, but I really don't need his issues spilling out over the screen into my lap because I have enough on my own issues to deal with.




Interesting use of the word "unrepentant," but alright you guys have made your point, very strongly. Except for the hyprocricy thing - that is dead wrong. While I made comments about thread hijacking, I have never suggested that anyone be banned for it - nor for any other reason. I am the least hypocritical person out of all of you, having never supported the ban of anyone for any reason.

Apparently I'm the only one who doesn't get what exactly is the line that has to be crossed in order to be banned. Exactly how many people do you have to annoy or start drama with to warrant a ban? More than 1? 5? 10? Many here, myself included, are guilty of starting and/or amplifying drama with other members.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swamiGD80s wrote:
Kochman wrote:

It is not only BS, lucasmcain, it is total hypocrisy...


I am the least hypocritical person out of all of you.


This is getting good. It reminds of the Arrogance smackdown back in December (European tour poll?)

Someone needs to start a stripped-down, topic-free "Fuck You" thread.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zephyr wrote:
swamiGD80s wrote:
Kochman wrote:

It is not only BS, lucasmcain, it is total hypocrisy...


I am the least hypocritical person out of all of you.


This is getting good. It reminds of the Arrogance smackdown back in December (European tour poll?)

Someone needs to start a stripped-down, topic-free "Fuck You" thread.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, Swami, since you still don't get it. Refer to the charter. I know I have told you this and spelled it out for you before.

Bottom line is, if you still don't know, I'm not going to tell you.

Let it go already, call duck, commiserate with him, but fucking drop it already. For crying out loud...
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zephyr wrote:
swamiGD80s wrote:
Kochman wrote:

It is not only BS, lucasmcain, it is total hypocrisy...


I am the least hypocritical person out of all of you.


This is getting good. It reminds of the Arrogance smackdown back in December (European tour poll?)

Someone needs to start a stripped-down, topic-free "Fuck You" thread.

We should expand the How and Why Kochman Sucks thread and expand it to anybody else that sucks.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheesebeer wrote:
Zephyr wrote:
swamiGD80s wrote:
Kochman wrote:

It is not only BS, lucasmcain, it is total hypocrisy...


I am the least hypocritical person out of all of you.


This is getting good. It reminds of the Arrogance smackdown back in December (European tour poll?)

Someone needs to start a stripped-down, topic-free "Fuck You" thread.

We should expand the How and Why Kochman Sucks thread and expand it to anybody else that sucks.


Fuck you.

(I am so bored here at work that this seems entertaining to me. Sorry.)

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheesebeer wrote:
Zephyr wrote:
swamiGD80s wrote:
Kochman wrote:

It is not only BS, lucasmcain, it is total hypocrisy...


I am the least hypocritical person out of all of you.


This is getting good. It reminds of the Arrogance smackdown back in December (European tour poll?)

Someone needs to start a stripped-down, topic-free "Fuck You" thread.

We should expand the How and Why Kochman Sucks thread and expand it to anybody else that sucks.

It's more fun just to focus on me though Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice Thread Laughing

This is so apsurd .... I think that the last posts could fit in a Fellini movie dialogue, or in a surrealistic Dylan poem.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nice Thread Laughing

This is so apsurd .... I think that the last posts could fit in a Fellini movie dialogue, or in a surrealistic Dylan poem.

I agree, this thread delivers.

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tizi wrote:
Nice Thread Laughing

This is so apsurd .... I think that the last posts could fit in a Fellini movie dialogue, or in a surrealistic Dylan poem.


Although Dylan can "slam like a drake"(Please Mrs. Henry), I thought this thread reminds me more of the novel "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest"

And to think this thread was dead in the water for almost 2 weeks until it was revived by Willie aka duck.
Good work, Willie!


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would anyone else like to talk about why we shouldn't be talking about this anymore?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is happening becouse we are talking about a thing that we shouldn't be talking about but we are still doing it ... regardless tof the fact that for almost 2 weeks we didn't .... and .... this is what at least the majority of us think.

Nice photo up there .... I am too lazy to realy star learning how to do it ... but I will

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Would anyone else like to talk about why we shouldn't be talking about this anymore?

Not me, I think this thread should go on and on. It's helping reveal who the real duckholes are here.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indicablue wrote:
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Would anyone else like to talk about why we shouldn't be talking about this anymore?

Not me, I think this thread should go on and on. It's helping reveal who the real duckholes are here.

haha, duckholes...
We should make a poll," are you really a deadhead if you haven't been raped by ducks?"

And, I find it amazing that Swami still continues to go on and on about this... It isn't about rules... it's now about common sense/good taste.
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Wait so Gang Raping Ducks is in poor taste or is it ok? I'm confused now. Laughing
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Wait so Gang Raping Ducks is in poor taste or is it ok? I'm confused now. Laughing

You can't hold waterfowl to human standards of morality, haven't you been following this thread? Very Happy
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This thread is should have been a Mighty Ducks sequel. Maybe we can send it off to a big Hollywood director. I am thinking Speilberg, Lucas, Eastwood, or Ed Wood. If only Ed Wood were still alive this would have become a movie. It would have been better than those Mighty Duck sequels as well.....well prolly not.

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Those who don't learn from history are condemned to repeat it.


I think i'ts short term memory loss in Duck's case more than anything


and once again I had to show him the door at forums I created Rolling Eyes I guess I hadn't leaned either, and Bill you know I love you man, but like stated, I can't have you driving away members who will contribute content the way folks will be sharing there. I know you contribute many rare vids places, but mega-upload aint your bag, do what you like and are good at

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Sorry guys. I'll try harder.
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lucasmcain wrote:
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How about letting Duck back in Land Lubber's for LPs - does anyone really object to this? You can keep him out of your precious thread discussions here, but he is good company at the LPs and has good stories to offer from his days on tour. There are only a handful of you out there who regularly participate in the LPs, so for those of you that visit Land Lubber's - are you really concerned about falling "victim" to a Spamming attack from Vlad?


Yes I am! He goes in there and bitches and complains about how Koch screwed him. It's not like you can ignore him on the chat either. He posts and you pretty much have to pay attention as he takes away from any discussion about anything relevent unless of course it's about him!

Yes, he has a great collection and can contribute some amazing things. But he also drags the whole chat down. Last week I get into an LP and he had like 33 log ins. He left soon after or Koch saw through the BS and quashed it.

He was warned. MULTIPLE TIMES!! He saw the fallout of his action as a number of us chimed in. He had ample time to quit fucking up peoples work. He CHOSE not too. He CHOSE to make LP's a forum for his displeasure . He was again asked to stop. He didn't.

I have nothing personal against the guy and I hope he finds peace and happiness somewhere. I for one exit immediately when he breaks into the chat. I come in to escape drama, I have enough in my life already, I'm tired of being caught up in his.

And as far as OUR PRECIOUS threads. Dude, that is a smack to the folks that put up threads. No offense bro, but you post a thread every now and then. Your threads are GREAT additions to this forum and we all appreciate them. Having said that, your threads weren't spammed, you work not mocked by his own search for attention.

To mock certain members of how they feel about their threads is bullshit. You using " your precious threads" is an attack fueled with sarcasm and a holier than thou aire. Maybe I'm taking you a little different then you meant to come off. I hope that maybe something was lost in the internet translations. If not, then you know where I stand on it.


Well said, great thread.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Henry, just curious as to why you are focusing on old Duck related posts...
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Henry, just curious as to why you are focusing on old Duck related posts...


Because the anti-Duck crusade has begun anew. What a joke. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh well...

Duck can certainly piss people off... I've been mad at him before.

Internet drama... almost as awesome as watching Oprah.
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