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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 3:12 pm    Post subject: The Other One 1972 project. Reply with quote

In my opinion 1972 has the best other ones. The sheer amount of new ideas sprinkled into it was incredible it twisted and turned all the time. So for my first big project i have decided to review every other one from 72. I hope you fellows will enjoy it.

3/21/72 Academy of Music New York NY
3/26/72 Academy of Music New York NY
3/28/72 Academy of Music New York NY
4/7/72 Wembley Empire Pool London England
4/11/72 Newcastle City Hall Newcastle England
4/16/72 Aarhus University Aarhus Denmark
4/21/72 Beat Club Bremen West Germany
4/26/72 Jahrhunderthalle Frankfurt West Germany
5/3/72 L'Olympia Paris France
5/7/72 Bickershaw Festival Wigan England
5/10/72 Concertgebouw Amsterdam Netherlands
5/13/72 Lille Fairgrounds Lille France
5/16/72 Theatre Hall Luxembourg Luxembourg
5/24/72 Strand Lyceum London England
5/26/72 Strand Lyceum London England
6/17/72 Hollywood Bowl Hollywood CA
7/16/72 Dillon Stadium Hartford CT
7/21/72 Paramount Northwest Theatre Seattle WA
7/25/72 Paramount Theatre Portland OR
8/12/72 Sacramento Memorial Auditorium Sacramento CA
8/20/72 San Jose Civic Auditorium San Jose CA
8/22/72 Berkeley Community Theatre Berkeley CA
8/25/72 Berkeley Community Theatre Berkeley CA
9/3/72 Folsom Field - University of Colorado Boulder CO
9/9/72 Hollywood Palladium Hollywood CA
9/15/72 Boston Music Hall Boston MA
9/17/72 Baltimore Civic Center Baltimore MD
9/19/72 Roosevelt Stadium Jersey City NJ
9/23/72 Palace Theatre Waterbury CT
9/26/72 Stanley Theatre Jersey City NJ
9/28/72 Stanley Theatre Jersey City NJ
9/30/72 American University Washington DC
10/9/72 Winterland Arena San Francisco CA
10/19/72 Fox Theatre St. Louis MO
10/21/72 Vanderbilt University Nashville TN
10/24/1972 Performing Arts Center Milwaukee WI
10/27/72 Veterans Memorial Auditorium Columbus OH
11/14/72 Oklahoma City Music Hall Oklahoma City OK
11/17/72 Century II Convention Hall Wichita KS
11/22/72 Austin Municipal Auditorium Austin TX
12/10/72 Winterland Arena San Francisco CA
12/12/72 Winterland Arena San Francisco CA
12/31/72 Winterland Arena San Francisco CA


[size=12]03-21-72 Academy of Music, New York, N.Y. (Tue)
1: Bertha, B. T. Wind, Sugaree, Next Time, Greatest, Loser, Mr. Charlie, L. L. Rain, Tennessee Jed, Playin, You Win Again, Cumberland, Chinatown Shuffle, El Paso, Good Lovin> Casey Jones
2: Truckin> Drums> Other One> Wharf Rat> Jam, Sugar Magnolia, Two Souls, Ramble On, Me & My Uncle, Big RxR Blues, NFA> GDTRFB> Saturday Night
first "L. L. Rain" - first "Two Souls"
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This show is the first to contain two beloved grateful dead "staples" looks like rain and two souls Laughing I started with the drums on this one. Billy gives us some good drum action. then after 3 minutes Phil rumbles on in and the other begins. Phil and bobby provide really really good ryhtmic playing while jerry is trying to find a good soloing groove.
At about 1:20 they already start to move away from the other one theme and head straight into what i believe is called a sputnik jam (Correct me if im wrong). its really eerie and pastoral tho very cool for the other one. at 3:00 jerry starts peeling off whale calls and the other one theme is restated again at 4:19 we head into space already. The jam has already becomed stalled after 4 minutes! give me a break man!
We leave space at 8:00 for a very interesting country tinged jam. I swear it almost sounds like MAMU but thats in my opinion. Phil is really kicking ass in this other one hes steering it along as jerry and bobby follow him. Very cool indeed. At 9:38 the verses enter and quickly leave. They start another free form passage after the verse with jerry peeling feedback and phils bass just booming. Pigpen tries to add something but of course fails haha. Phil starts a very interesting bass pattern and jerry and bobby play around it. They try a couple jam ideas but they all fall apart. at 15:13 we head back into the Other one with billy playing like a madman and jerry finally laying down a pretty good solo. the verses back into the fray at 17 minutes and they enter into wharf rat.

Overall: This other one is pretty decent its not horrible but still i think they could have done better.

Grade: B-

03-26-72 Academy of Music, New York, N.Y. (Sun)
1: Greatest, Cold Rain, Chinatown Shuffle, B. T. Wind, You Win Again, Mr. Charlie, Jack Straw, Loser, L. L. Rain, Big RxR Blues, Big Boss Man, Playin, El Paso, Good Lovin
2: Truckin> Drums> Other One> Me & My Uncle> Other One> Wharf Rat, Sugar Magnolia, Two Souls, NFA> GDTRFB> NFA


They do not have the second set on the archive.

[b]03-28-72 Academy of Music, New York, N.Y. (Tue)
[color=black]1: Truckin, Tennessee Jed, Chinatown Shuffle, B. T. Wind, You Win Again, Mr. Charlie, Mexicali, Brokedown, Next Time, Cumberland, L. L. Rain, Big RxR Blues, El Paso, China Cat> I Know You Rider, Casey Jones
2: Playin, Sugaree, Two Souls, Sugar Magnolia> Other One, Hurts Me Too, NFA> GDTRFB> NFA E: Sidewalks Of New York> Saturday Night
only "Sidewalks Of New York"
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I listened to DP 30 for this one (The archive has a wretched AUD recording of this show).

I started with sugar mags. standard stuff not much to say altho Garcia does lay down a hot solo before the sunshine daydream part. Out of wiers god awful screaming comes the other one. The energy is a little subdued here it doesnt come charging out of the gates like 3/26 did. Weir provides some good chomping for garcia. Garcia is already playing much better on this TOO than he did on 3/26. and whats that? pigpen is actually trying to play! well good for him. Keith is laying down some nice twinkling ivory tickling.

There really is some great music for the start of this Other one everyone is in synch with each other and they know where they want to go. at 5:30 they were almost heading to space but thankfully garcia pulls them out for some more jamming.

I prefer my space after the verses. But at 7 minutes Jerry starts some spine tingling whale calls. things are getin' hairy right now and it is great! 9 minutes is where they head into space. Its much better than going right into space after only 4 minutes and this space is even creepier than the last one. this is just some creepy [CENSORED] right here.
What emerges from space is a beautiful passage. Keith is playing some lovely piano in the background but jerry wants to keep it firmly implanted into creepiness. Jerry restates the other one theme at 15 minutes and they follow him right along. after the verses are said jerry starts a really good solo. like i said before hes playing much better on this other one. the jam is really getting hot right here everyone is totally grooving even pigpen!

They head back into some weirdness at 20 minutes. Jerry is now out of control slowly building up to a fevered pitch than settling back down again. great stuff. They are totally in groove now with jerry fanning and bobby chomping. The climax is coming at 26 minutes. X factor (IMo) is acheived and man is it just fantastic. The vocals enter back into fray at 27 minutes as they end a fantastic other one.

Overall: This is a great great other one everyone is totally in synch with each other the whole time. The first great other one of 72!

Grade: A


[b]04-07-72 Wembley Empire Pool, London, England (Fri)
1: Greatest, Sugaree, Chinatown Shuffle, China Cat> I Know You Rider, Big Boss Man, B. T. Wind, Loser, Mr. Charlie, BIODTL, Tennessee Jed, Playin, Casey Jones
2: Truckin> Drums> Other One> El Paso> Other One> Wharf Rat, Ramble On, Sugar Magnolia, NFA> GDTRFB> NFA E: Saturday Night
sound check: "Hey Bo Diddley"[/b]

[color=blue]the first E72 TOO. I listened to steppin' out for this other one (Its either that or two of the worst AUD recordings ever.) Billy plays a good drum solo heading into TOO. I swear it always sounds like theirs more people playing could billy have a third extra arm somehwere? possibly.. We have a nice rumbling phil intro. Now this is what im talking about! this is a high energy other one right from the get go. Keith is now adding more to it and phils bass is off the richter scale folks. X factor is already acheived so i can only assume that this other one will be incredible. I must mention that phils bass tone sounds incredible and other worldy.

Phil is all over it and so is jerry. Billy is providing a really nice drum beat. danceable indeed (for a stoner anyways). this is by far the best intro jam ive heard yet it never stops going. At 4:40 they stop for a free form section. Jerry is doing his twinkling guitar playing which is always beautiful to listen to. We have now entered another dimension and right into space. But each time their space gets better and this one definatley has the goods. Keith is playing wonderfully with tickling the ivories. Jerry is already signaling them back to the other one theme so obviously he must have not been on a ton of acid for this night.

The space was short but sweet. bobby starts the verses at 8:30 which is odd considering the fact that last time he started to sing at 17 minutes!. Jerry and phil are totally in nirvana tho with phil laying down a phat bass line and jerry soaking it up. This other has chills up and down my back its that good. At 12 minutes they stop again for another space section. This one is scary man. Jerry has his demonic guitar playing on so its clear he wants to start a tiger. He hints at it but never really gets to it which is a shame. Phils bass sounds it wants to [CENSORED] in the world its like a black hole basicly. at 15 minutes bobby starts this really cool rythmic pattern and jerry goes right for it. This jam is incredible with phil and jerry just turning this into something sublime.

At 16 minutes phil starts the caution bass line but jerry no sells it. Now that would have been cool! Instead jerry stops everyone and plays a terrific spooky solo. at 19 minutes they are still in full spacey mood. Out of the ashes comes el paso! very cool indeed. This song always sounds great no matter how many times you listen to it. Bobbys vocals sound very tired and old (Maybe this is how jerrys voice got so fucked up Laughing ). At least they didnt segue into me and bobby mcgee (those come much later sadly).

So after Bobbys tale about cowboy death we head straight back into the other one without missing a beat. This is just as intense which means they definately have been keeping the momentum going for a long time which sometimes doesnt happen in a very long jam. Jerry's solo to start with is amazing with keith giving some good chomping piano. They slow down once again but head into this jazzy spanish jam. Thats the only way i can describe but i have one word for it AWESOME. Jazz dead at its finest folks. Jerry starts fanning massively no noodlin for jer in this other one. This is prime keith territory and he takes full advantage of it.

His playing has been marvelous on this TOO. At 6 minutes they return to the main theme one more time and keep kicking ass before bobby before bobby sings. with the last words spoken, the dead turn a dime and go into wharf rat.

Overall: wow just wow i am speechless this TOO was abostluely incredible. They maintained the energy and spookiness for the whole time it simply is a must hear peace of music.

Grade: A+


Special note: Id also like to give pigpen the keep trying award because he keeps trying but still adds nothing to the music! so keep trying buddy![/color]

[b]04-11-72 City Hall, Newcastle upon Tyne, England (Tue)
1: Greatest, Deal, Mr. Charlie, B. T. Wind, Tennessee Jed, Big Boss Man, BIODTL, Sugaree, Jack Straw, Chinatown Shuffle, China Cat> I Know You Rider, Playin, Next Time, B. E. Women, L. L. Rain, Big RxR Blues, Casey Jones
2: Good Lovin, Ramble On, Truckin> Drums> Other One> Comes A Time> Sugar Magnolia E: Brokedown[/b]

[color=darkblue]For our second E72 TOO i decided to start at truckin a first for the project! Was there ever a bad truckin in 72? this is one of those tunes that they nailed all the time. Pigpen added good organ washes to this tune. Sound quality is nice except a little hissy. Phils bass is loud and proud on this truckin. Its def got the ram shackle truckin vibe going. Bobby hasn't flubbed a verse yet! Bobby starts screaming at 5 minutes then we get a great truckin jam. Jerry and phil are laying it on hot and heavy. Man this is one great truckin. Energy is through the roof. so after they end on hell of a hot truckin they go into a jam. ugh these jams sure do take the wind out of the sails. Just a bunch of noodling around for ten minutes.

at least at 5 minutes they start something pretty cool. Phil is leading the charge with jerry soloing along with him. Then they stop again just noodle around for a little bit. Phil starts a really coold bass pattern at 6:30 which seriously is the shit. Sounds like a mutated version of my favorite things. after this they go back into noodling at least its over by ten minutes.

They start the other one theme at ten minutes but decide to let billy have his three minutes of glory. Theres a cut in drums at 1:40 minute but in all honesty its just a drum solo haha. At least their short unlike the 19 minute drum solos of 78. Yikes! Finally after a 10 minute snore fest of a jam and a 3 minute drum solo we get a chaotic intro to the other one. The intro is key for me and this one comes charging out of the gate. Jerry is hot right out of the gate and so is phil. I have noticed that pigpen has been trying more and more in these successive other one but still doesnt add jack shit. Phil is a monster right now. If there was a compositon Phil def owned on all the time it was the other one.

At 4 minutes i sense they already want to head into space. Ugh wrong choice fellas! Thankfully they stave it off and instead enter a quiet jam. jerry is twinkling away restating the other one theme a couple times and so is phil. Jerry is flying high with billy whammin away. Again the vocals start out early at 7 minutes. The pre verse jam was alright id give it a solid b minus. Billy starts a cool drum groove and everyone plays around it. This is a hot jam here folks. It def makes up for the lackluster pre vocal jam. Everyone is hittin the cylinders right. bobby is really chomping his ass off picking the right chords. Jerry does some psudo whale calling while phil is holding the bottom way down. Whats that? i do believe we have stumbled upon a feelin groovy jam! yeah! When you thought youve heard everything in a dead jam they surprise you like this. It simply comes out of no where but is cool as all hell. there is some X factor in this pretty feelin groovy jam. Wow just listen to bobbys playing its just so pretty. T

hey leave the feeling groovy for some good ole free form playin. Billy drops out completely and what we left with is jerry chiming notes Phil playing and keith playing with bobby. This is so idk spacious. Ambient like with everyone playing sparingly. What we enter is a creepy space with bobby doing those very good ryhmic patterns he does (i dont know what they are call so i just call them psudo reverse guitar effects.) We have enter scary TOO space now. Feedback is way out there sounding like a spaceship has just landed. Jerrys feedback lasts for like a minute from 17:50 to 18:30. Jerry sounds like hes starting a tiger. He hasn't done it yet but has been hinting at it. Hes get closer and closer. fanning and shredding his way into outer space. Bobby is doing demonic things in the background. They have been staying on this tiger like jam for a long time and jerry hasnt climaxed yet. We don't get a tiger climax instead we get a country ho down jam. sheesh that space almost went overboard there.

This an energetic jam with bobby taking command of the rythm section fully. Pigpen enters back into the background. This would be a short country jam tho as they enter back into the other one theme. Even the climax of the jam is super short. Bobby sings the verses at 25 minutes and after that head into comes a time.

Overall: The whole jam sequence was very underwhelming. The truckin was hot but the next jam was so boring. The pre verse other one jam wasnt as hot as 4/7 but the feeling groovy jam was pretty and def the best part of this TOO. Jerry almost does a tiger climax but instead we get a very short very disapointing country jam. This was def an uneventul other one.

Grade: B-
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's a lot of Other Ones!! maybe you should review every other Other One Confused

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great idea man. 72 Other Ones are gangster, excellent listening.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

one down many more to go! Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, that basically means every other show of 72... a lot of TOOs, worthy endeavor!
I will make this sticky...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3/28 has been added and boy was it a dandy of a TOO.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A great project....looking forward to future installments!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice choice of projects, Jesse. Keep 'em comin'!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

4/7 is added.
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4/11 has been added.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps you could make more visible breaks between the shows...

Like bold facing and underlining the dates... and making the type font on the dates another color and/or larger...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alrite Ill do that. It does make more sense. How does it look now better or worse?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Better...
When I said change the color, I meant on the dateline still... it looks kind of odd to see the actual review in rainbow colors....

For an example, see this thread...
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oh alrite gotcha. okay i think its much more organized now haha
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04-16-72 Aarhus University, Aarhus, Denmark (Sun)
1: Greatest, Sugaree, Chinatown Shuffle, B. T. Wind, Tennessee Jed, Mr. Charlie, BIODTL, China Cat> I Know You Rider, Mexicali, Loser, Next Time, Playin, Dire Wolf
2: Good Lovin, Cumberland, El Paso, Deal, Truckin> Caution> Uncle John> Other One> NFA> GDTRFB> NFA
venue may have been Vejlby Risskovhallen


(Note: Altho deadbase states theirs a UJB after caution there is none.)

This E72 show prolly gets overshadowed just because 4/14 and 4/17 are incredible shows. I started with truckin again. The intro isnt as energized as the previous truckin. It seems that its also at a slower tempo. So far this is a very lackluster truckin not very good at all. at 2:30 we have a usual bobby truckin lyric flub. last show he was perfect but not tonight. The mix barely has phil in it i mean you can hear him but hes not at the forefront which is a shame. So hopefully the post verse jam will get better right? I mean theres always light at the end of the tunnel.

Well it gets a little better and starts heating up at 7:02. Finally we get some good energy and phil can now be heard! Yeah! now we are talking! jerry is now on fire along with the rest of the gang. Jerry single handedly saved a lackluster truckin. Kickass indeed. at 9 minutes they start slowing it down and as i see that this truckin is 18 minutes they are probably gona go into some freeform jam. This is the longest truckin post verse jam so far it seems like jerry wants to keep the gas pedal on a little longer and im fine with that. at ten minutes they reprise the chorus but this truckin aint over folks as we got 7 minutes of jamming next. At 11 minute they start the other one theme but no one sells it so instead they keep on jamming

This jam is ten times more interesting than the snooze fest last time. Phil for one is now playing wonderfully. Again jerry starts playing an other one guitar line but they still havent starting to full out play it. at 14 minutes billy drops out and jerry keeps repeating this great guitar line along with bobby. Deadbase also seems to have lied too because it says theirs a caution buried in there but i dont hear it at all. This jam is magical tho it doesnt verge off into dead space or try to come up with a million little jams. Bobby is playing some great licks in between jerry and phil. I still think no one has matched bob wier as the best rythm guitar player ever (Keith richards is a close second). Jerry is playing some spooky lines at the end of this jam. They head into the other one still into their other jam but it doesnt matter cuz its one hell of a intro. They havent even stated the other one theme its one of hte most unique entrances to the song ever (note: This is an other one jam).

At one minute the already stop and head off into quiet territory. Jerry is playing this incredible guitar line its very unqiue. Phil is philling in the spaces like any great bass player does. this is very very silent again ambient like. Bobby seems to have dropped out completely so its just jerry keith and phil. Jerry has the space guitar tone with phils bass on maximum overdrive. But 4 minutes cant hold my interest for much this is getting kind of tedious for me. Will a jam please materialise? Things start getting hairy at the 6 minute mark with phils bass sucking in the entire solar system for god sakes! this is turning into some scary shit. Keith is playing a minor vamp likes hes doing a concerto from hell. If your a fan of scary ass space this will satisfy your needs.

at 7 minutes jerry hinted at a tiger but immediately dropped it. My interest in this TOO jam has officially been gone. All they have been doing for the past 9 minutes is spacey playing. BLAH! at 10 minutes jerry finally finally states the other one theme and everyone joins in. Wow beautiful stuff that jerry is playing now. For some reason jerry drops out (Possibly a broke string?) He finally comes back in at 12:18 doing the same thing he was doing a while ago. I dont care how many times he repeats this guitar pattern it kicks ass. at 13 minutes phil signels in MAMU and they head right into MAMU. Standard [CENSORED] and my indulgent reviews are long enough so I won't say nothing about it haha.

So after MAMU they officially start a real TOO. Man can't wait for a real jam the intro sounds great its intense can't wait! But wait whats this Bobby is already singing? ahhh fuck! well at least they will jam out after his verse they always do? Well you would be wrong because they go right into NFA.

Overall: This was just lame. The TOO jam was just spacey playing until they breifly play the theme for two minutes. After MAMU bobby only sings the lyrics and they segue into NFA. lame sauce all the way.

Grade: C+


04-21-72 Beat Club, Bremen, West Germany (Fri)
Bertha, Playin, Mr. Charlie, Sugaree, Truckin> Other One, Saturday Night
TV show


This was TV that the dead played so thats why its a truncated show. So im hoping and praying to god that this TOO isnt a turd like the last one. So i started with drums. This is a good FM soundboard very crispy. (Note: Resident Douchebag cliff hucker commented on this show.)

So after the shortest drum solo yet Phil rumbles on in. Finally! the energy is at 10 right away so none of that 10 minute spacey shit. Billy the madman has officially came out. Phil is leading this one with boby cleaning up with great rythmic playing. Jerry is soloing nicely not great or X factor just nicely. They start slowing down at 3:00 minutes but that doesnt mean that the intensity isnt gone its still there!

Phil is dominating this TOO with bobby providing supple support. They rev back up again with jerry laying down a better solo. Bobby has to be in nirvana now because the rhymic pattern he is laying down is incredible! 5:08 this TOO starts becoming incredible they stumbled for a while but have picked up the peaces. Pigpen is no where to found (Drunk?). Again we have a short pre verse jam. At 5:40 bobby already sings the verse. but the after verse jam is always the most important part.

billy awashes TOO with cymbals as we now head into the quiet passage. Thankfully they havent gotten spacey yet. Billy provides with a latin/jazz drum beat. Jerry starts hitting the beautiful high notes at 8:05 as Bobby fans behind him. They are starting to really gel at 9 minutes with jerry providing these really sublime sounds and wahing up everything. Well ik what a wah pedal means. They head their way into space. Rolling Eyes

At least they are keeping it going. Right now the MVP is def Bobby hes giving everyone interesting ideas and hopefully Garcia will start to peak as well.

This is pretty space tho. Nothing scary yet. They leave space right away to my delight and start a jazzy jam. Phil is handling everything right now as if hes soloing along with jerry. Jerry still hasn't found something he likes so its been straight noodling for like 4 minutes. 13:30 they enter back into the TOO theme and finally jerry gets going! They are reaching nirvana now keep going boys!

Jerry finally stops fucking around goes for the gutteral. X factor baby! Their on fire now nothing can stop them. At 15:44 Bobby starts the verses. but hold on! they don't stop. We have now entered space. Massive Jerry Feedback at 17 minutes. Jerry starts playing a nice lick at 18 minutes. sounds very modal and eastern flavored. Jerry calls for the whale at 19 minutes for only a breif time as billy gets something going.

Wow...Ive never heard this. what is it? who knows, i can just say its beautiful as ne thing. This is a good jam. Its pretty as all hell and should be heard. Pigpen must have been drukn or sleeping cuz he finally is doing something at 21 minutes. Jerry starts sputniking at the 21st and a half minute. Its sublime. X factor for this part? I wouldnt say so. But id say that its pretty dam incredible. At 22:30 everyone starts a massive fan both bobby and Jerry and thats it for this other one.

Overall: Thank god for This TOO i was starting to lose faith but this one had the goods. The jam from 13:30 to the 15th minute was incredible and the post verse jam was pretty and incredible. Bobby was the MVP for the most part just because for most of it Jerry was noodling around until he finally found something.

Grade: B+

04-26-72 Jahrhundert Halle, Frankfurt, West Germany (Wed)
1: Bertha*, Me & My Uncle*, Mr. Charlie, He's Gone, B. T. Wind, Next Time*, China Cat*> I Know You Rider*, Jack Straw*, Big RxR Blues*, Playin*, Chinatown Shuffle, Loser, BIODTL, You Win Again, Good Lovin, Dire Wolf
2: Truckin*> Drums*> Other One*> Comes A Time*> Sugar Magnolia*, El Paso, Tennessee Jed, Greatest, Two Souls, Casey Jones, Lovelight*> GDTRFB*> Saturday Night*
*appears on "Hundred Year Hall"


Hundred year hall is a controversial release just because its not a complete show, but still they compiled it to give us the best higlights. (Note: If you do want the whole show they have a bootleg called "Hundred year hall outtakes")
(Another Note: On the album they list TOO as a cryptical envelopment!)

So alrite ive noticed that Truckin' dictates the energy of the TOO (For example 4/16 truckin was meandering.)

Well the energy is def. in the right levels. everyone is hittin the harmonies with jerry fluttering away on top. Bob already flubs a lyric at a minute 21. (Funny thing i read on high times. Bobby can remember line after line by bob dylan but cant remember half of the lyrics Barlow and hunter wrote for him!)

Keith is playing wonderfully on this truckin. He glissandos at 2 minute and it sounds powerful. Another bobby lyrical flub at 3:40 so thats two for this truckin'! haha. but 72 truckins arent about the lyrics their all about the jamming.

So they get through the lyrics pretty quickly and jerry starts the truckin jam riff. Keith is playing bar saloon style here folks. This is gona be a hot truckin jam i can tell. At 6 minutes they aint fuckin around ne more and the energy is just zooming out of Jarhunderhalle. X factor baby! they slow it down for a bit at 7:30 it seems that they want to head off somewhere else. but nope they keep it in a mellow truckin groove. Phil is now making his presence known hitting the high notes doing the lead bass player role now. They start revving up again at 8:30 heading for that climax everyone knows and loves. It keeps getting better and better with the X firmly in place.

They kept such an amazing groove on that truckin' jam. an A+ truckin fer sure.

They keep jamming after the get back truckin on. holy shit! They just won't stop making this truckin better and better will they? After that amazing truckin jam they head into an incredible outro jam for a little while. Jerry is now doing an arpeggio up and down the guitar. We slow down at at 12:50. bobby is fanning with jerry doing those creepy jam guitar licks.

at 13 minutes everyone drops out except for billy and keith. could this called Keith and billy? well not really haha. So billy starts a bo diddley beat drum solo. This isnt some wham away drum solo. It seems that Billy wants to keep that incredible energy for TOO. so he does a really focused fast drum solo.

This is also the longest drum solo yet. (Note: since they just tacked the drum solo onto truckin' i can't really tell how long it is. But it seems that its between 3-4 minutes long.)

At 17:32 billy starts the TOO drum line. and POW! out of the drum solo comes a massive energy surge of a TOO. This is the second longest TOO ever clocking in at 36 minutes.

They have kept the Truckin energy and have kept the X factor. Jerry is already focused playing one hell of a solo while bobby and phil keep the rythm section ripping into intensity. This is the first TOO that i can finally hear keith actually play and hes doing a hell of a job. At 2 minutes they already divert away from the main theme but this isnt some noodle fest its still very focused.

Jesus just listen to bobby and phil. They are giving jerry all he can handle while keith is the one holding down the bottom. So at 3:18 they head off for another quiet passage. This isnt a snore fest though they keep the momentum going with some great keith playing. This turn into a lovely little jam where phil is taking over now. Bobby is playing almost what sounds like a feeling groovy a demented one at best. This is just an incredible jam its keeping the energy at a still very high level. This is pure Dead ebb and flow at its best.

Man Ive never heard bobby play this well on an other one which makes jerry give his A game on this one. At 7:05 Phils massive thick bass tone comes ringing out stating the TOO theme but no one sells it. This "quiet passage jam" is the best one yet. They have def improved it at each time they have played it. So at 8:30 billy drops out.

This is spine tingling ambient playing. Phil is the lead instrument as he always is on these ambient sections. Jerry isn't noodling a massive ton neither and starts those incredible psudo-reverse guitar effects playing that bobby always does. This isn't a snore fest neither they keep moving it on and on never stopping to just free form play it. at 12:30 billy kicks in on his snare drum another amazing moment. The quiet passage perfectly set up this explosion on heavy TOO jamming.

The only way they could [CENSORED] this TOO up is if they play ten minutes of space.
13:36 bobby sings the verses. This time more energetic and yes this is the best time hes sung them yet. Pigpen is MIA again. at 17:03 i can sense a space. bobby is fanning and even phil fans for a little while.

Phil is starting to throw out some bombs with billy providing a great backbeat. They enter another quiet passage at 15:30 but billy plays with them. Jerry is providing oodles of noodles while phil is laying it down big time. Jerry turns on the demented wah at 17:33 but its not a space. Its another energetic intense passage. At 18:40 we get an idea they used in the last truckin jam on 4/16 This is just incredible. Its purely beautiful jazz music. I would have never seen this coming. Everyone is picking the right spots and jabbing and picking and weaving around the theme. Its incredible musical tension. So after this TOO jazz jam Bobby fires up a fan and I sense a space. Billy enters out and we enter the solar system. 22:12 phil starts up the bombs. at 23:00 jerry starts up a tiger. Gah! he still hasn't climaxed it yet. he already stops the tiger for some wierd Whale Calls. Bobby whale calls along with him too. great stuff.

Phils bass turns into a massive feedback machine. This is possibly the most focused space yet. I havent lost attention to it...yet. Phil lets off massive bombs at 25 minutes good lord ive never heard such a heavy bass sound in my life. Jerry starts up another tiger at 26:30. Will he complete it? it sounds like he will! Faster faster faster! Yes! hes climaxing! holy [CENSORED] what a tiger! white noise at its finest. bobby is playing some spanish chords. The first full blown tiger jam this one has the goods. at 28:20 they head out into another new jam.

That space was perfect. it didnt meander one bit and it had the first TOO tiger!
at 29:38 Billy gives them all a shot of adrenaline that hikes up the ante by ten fold. I swear nothing will stop them they keep going and going. its insane.

At 30:44 jerry sputniks around while bobby gives him a beautiful bed of chords. They leave it for a great fast paced country lite jam. It has this great melody that keith keeps on improvising around. at 33:06 jerry signals in the pre verse climax jam that always are the icing on the cake. at 33:30 phil bombs away. Garcias fingers are on fire and billys rolls are incredible to hear. At 35:38 Bobby sings the verses with pigpen way way in the background! And with that they come around into comes a time.

Overall: this is the TOO that might not be topped. This is just plain incredible. It had a little bit of everything for everyone. focused intense TOO theme jamming. A tiger. Some cool melodic themes and plenty of jazz and some tight quiet passages the served up to deliver massive intense jamming. If you haven't heard this one yet I recommend you listen to it as quickly as you can

Grade: A++ (One extra plus because of the tiger!)


05-07-72 Bickershaw Festival, Wigan, England (Sun)
1: Truckin, Sugaree, Mr. Charlie, Deal, BIODTL, He's Gone, Chinatown Shuffle, China Cat> I Know You Rider, B. T. Wind, Next Time, Playin, Tennessee Jed, Good Lovin, Casey Jones
2: Greatest, Big Boss Man, Ramble On, Jack Straw, Dark Star> Drums> Other One> Sing Me Back Home, Sugar Magnolia, Lovelight> GDTRFB> NFA E: Saturday Night
Bill Kreutzmann's 26th birthday - also: NRPS


Some Random notes before i start: This show is just simply epic. The dead played for almost 5 hours and played all their jam vehicles. its the only show in 72 with both DS and TOO. This is also billy's 26th birthday. The conditions was basicly just a giant mud pit. This show actually made Elvis costello want to form a band! The show should get an official release one of these days its too epic not to and only some of the show is in SBD(Luckily DS through Saturday night is in SBD.) Also id like to thank skobud for giving me this show. thanks Sko!

so for the first and only time for this project I will start with the DS. theres some warbly sound issues in the beginning but they waste no time in leaving the dark star theme. This tune became jazzier and jazzier and this one is no exception. Jerry is laying down a nice solo with bobby leading the rythm section. at 2:00 billy gives us some nice tom rolls. Very good energy based DS. Right now this is what i would call a very sublime DS its very pretty and not spacey or experimental (for now at least.) At 3:36 bob played this really interesting chord pattern for a breif time. Jerry starts playing the high notes and does some great hammer ons. At 4:18 he starts a sputnik. This DS is one that might not surprise you at all but its very good right now. The sputnik rolls along with Billy awashing the musical landscape with cymbal washes love it when he does that.

We are in prime noodle country now and the sound starts going to [CENSORED] at 6 minutes. This tape is very finnicky sometimes warbling in and out. They leave noodle country for a good billy groove. Pigpen is shaking the maracas. Nothing has really made me say wow which doesnt mean that this is a bad DS far from it its just it doesnt have ne wow moments yet. At 7:30 we get a really good jam going one. It seems now they have found something they like. Jerry lays down some mean notes at 8:30. So far this whole jam has been the highlight of the DS.

at 9:30 we head off into a quiet section. These are what makes or breaks a DS just like a TOO cuz sometimes they just went for too dam long. so far this quiet passage has been decent. At 13:17 jerry does the whale calls. Beatiful to listen to. It disintegrates into a feedback with some big bobby fanning. Out of a quick space returns the DS theme at 14:30. (Side Note: i will always think the DS riff is one of the greatest in rock history.) We get the vocals at 15:15. Jerry sounds so young when he sings these verses. As jerry sings the last verse we get some phil bombs returning us to the land of space. This is a very ambient pastoral space nothing scary so you can come out from your covers.

But they head off after 19 minutes into a short drum break. This is the shortest DS of the year. Very mediocre especially compared to the other Stars of this year. Billy wants to make this a fast drum solo so he bo diddley beats his way on an energy surge. One of the big surprises of the year comes out of the drums a TOO! they must have wanted to redeem themselves from such a lackluster DS so they immediately push all the way down on the gas pedal. and yes Pigpen is back and yes hes adding something to the music for once!

Billy's fills are really vicious. This is prolly the best drumming hes done yet not saying that everyone isnt playing their asses but right now billy is playing the best. at 2:30 jerry hits the high notes. This pre-verse jam is simply chain smoking. Jerry is attacking in the only way jerry can. At 4:11 they hit Nirvana and some X is acheived before they settle it down. SMOKING! This quiet passage started at 5 minutes and has some great rythm playing by boby with Phil doing some cool hammer ons.

At 7:05 jerry plays around with a new melody he just found but hes in full noodle mode right now, but instead they rev the beast back up at 7:50, with jerry going for the throat now. The great Gar is now kicking some ass with this cool middle eastern flavored solo! at 9 minutes they head back into the TOO theme. The groove right now is very Ram shackle it seems like it can head off into any direction it wants. so at 10:50 Bobby sings TOO. Classic phil bombs after the verse. We land ourselves in space. Boy aint i lucky two spaces in a row.


You know I thought the deads jams were structured but every TOO i have listened to have gone off into different and all of them have some very unique themes they play with. so yes i have come to the assumption that the dead truly were improvisational and very spontaneous.


But ne ways this space is extremely boring! its a buzz killer in the making. yes phil we know you can do those cool bombing noises but jesus someone get them out of this space. I kid you not this space has been going on since the after verses. but at 20 minutes Jerry is starting another tiger and once again climaxes. evn this tiger isnt as cool just because the build up was so godam long. Exploratory to some. [CENSORED] to others.

and they keep going. man will it ever stop. Id rather listen to the other one jam from 4/16! No way is something materalizing with a funky phil bass pattern? nope they dont even wana try it. Now that would have been cool. Well finally at 25 they break out of that extremely long space and go into a really cool jam. This hot hot jam officaly wipes away that dreadful space from my memory. No one is messing around.

Listen Jerry's tone! its so phat! So after that short jam we head back into a TOO jam. Pigpen awakens from his drunken stupor to give us some lame background music. That space just fucked them up because this jam is just meh. Not much energy but at least Garcia is giving us the goods with a nice melodic based solo. But at 29 minutes comes a great climax and they seem to have retained some of that hot energy they previously had. So at the 31st minute we get the standard bobby verse as they head in sing me back home.

Overall: So much potential! The DS>TOO should have been a classic but it went into mediocrity. The DS wasnt that special and the TOO had a great X factor intro but it quickly got killed because of the very long and tedious space.

Grade: B- and a C+ for the dark star.

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i put 4/16 into a new box so my initial post wouldnt be humoungous. Ill prolly put 3 or 4 reviews on per new page.
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Looking good dude...
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How about skipping ahead to 5/26, the one from 100Y hall, or the September ones? (JK Laughing )
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well im in luck next up hundred year hall TOO baby.
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jessewood34 wrote:
well im in luck next up hundred year hall TOO baby.
Just listened to that last night. Very Cool Looking forward to your thoughts on it.
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4/26 has been added idk if this TOO will be topped but i still have a long ways to go!
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5/7/72 is added.
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Quote:
The DS>TOO is very rare. (Dead list shows they did it only 6 times.)

This is not accurate, they did it dozens of times... at least, where they were both in the same show... not sure about the exact order of events.
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im talking about a Dark star seguing into an other one.
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OFten times the databases screw this up because they separate TOO from the TIFTOO... when really, they shouldn't... at least in my book.
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okay what i get what yoru sayin now. thanx.
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re: 5/7/72
jessewood34 wrote:
Well finally at 25 they break out of that extremely long space and go into a really cool jam. This hot hot jam officaly wipes away that dreadful space from my memory. No one is messing around.

Listen Jerry's tone! its so phat! So after that short jam we head back into a TOO jam. Pigpen awakens from his drunken stupor to give us some lame background music. That space just fucked them up because this jam is just meh. Not much energy but at least Garcia is giving us the goods with a nice melodic based solo. But at 29 minutes comes a great climax and they seem to have retained some of that hot energy they previously had. So at the 31st minute we get the standard bobby verse as they head in sing me back home.


This jam after the long space sounds to me like a particularly intense Dark Star jam, actually, though they never touch on any of the usual DS themes -- just sounds to me like a similar jam that pops up in a number of 72 Stars. I wonder if Jerry was contemplating a Dark Star sandwich, but got trumped by Bob's second Other One verse. What do you think, jesse?

I agree that, compared with the rest of E72, this jam is kinda marginal, but 50 minutes of cosmic brain exploration in the cold, rainy, British countryside was probably a tough one to pull off. As another wise Brit once said, "we can't do a freeform jazz odyssey in front of a festival crowd!"

Great job with these, btw. You go ahead! 5/10 is a sleeper.
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he possibly could have done that i see your points. But idk the dark star was very very lame especially since its a E72. i just didn't feel the intensity levels at all with the ds or the TOO. but i took a short break from the project and will be resuming tomorow.
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Hey guys... this guy is bashing E72! Get him!!! Laughing
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05-03-72 Olympia Theater, Paris, France (Wed)
1: Bertha, Me & My Uncle, Mr. Charlie, Sugaree, B. T. Wind, Chinatown Shuffle, China Cat> I Know You Rider, BIODTL, He's Gone, Next Time, Playin, Tennessee Jed, Good Lovin, Sing Me Back Home, Casey Jones
2: Greatest, Ramble On, Hurts Me Too, Truckin> Other One> Drums> Other One> Bobby McGee> Other One> Wharf Rat, Jack Straw, Sugar Magnolia> NFA> GDTRFB> NFA E: Saturday Night
"China Cat," "I Know You Rider," "Tennessee Jed," and "Jack Straw" appear on "Europe '72"


Sorry guys i accidentally skipped over this one. So i took a break from the project for a couple days and now have fresh ears again. This is one of two dead shows that they played at the olympia theater and for the first time in this project we get a triple other one sandwhich. Bobby tells the crowd about their number one hit single in california and we get a truckin'. Its def the slowest truckin ive heard (Even slower than 4/16). after the chorus they seemed to hiked the energy up a tad bit. This is a really turgid truckin' lacking none of the spark. But the dead always surprise you especially in a truckin it can go from slow to the gas pedal explosion jam in a heartbeat. So at 5:44 jerry seems to want to forget how slow they were so he hikes the energy up quickly. Listen to those swirling B-3 pigpen sounds! bobby is tearing a roof through the building with keith being a bar stool piano player. great truckin' jam. Instead of going through the motion they beat this truckin to a bloody pulp. Wow listen to what phil is playing behind bobbys banshee screams at 8 minutes! At 10:01 jerry plays a spider web of guitars and we have entered into a jam.

Keith is tickling the ivories nicely. With Billy sounding like a tympani drummer almost. Things start to get spine tingling at 1:44. Free form dead has come to town. Honestly to me these E72 jams either really [CENSORED] nuts or their really good. I just do not like when they putz around for 12 or 6 minutes. This one is just another putz around. so theres nothing to say. Although the truckin was pretty dam good.

(I think this takes away from E72. These stupid jams never seem to be nothing more than to make up time. Of course people say "Why jesse your a jazz guy and this is totally like improvising and shit." Yeah but these things are boring as fuck!)

Jerry starts whale calling at 5:40. that was the highlight of the whole jam! lol.

So after that turgid jam. Phil bombs his way into a really wierd TOO intro. Every one is still in jam one. This is another unique TOO intro and its actually really awesome. Billy is providing a galloping drum beat! listen to that! Jerry starts playing TOO lines at 55 seconds but doesnt go for it. But at 1:13 the TOO is here and you can evn hear the audience applausing. What we get though is phil soloing with keith and billy providing support. way cool! Listen to the way phil is carrying this thing. Wow listen to jerrys chords at 2:15 this is what he played at 4/16 too but this time its def way way better than that pile of shit.

Phil right now is the one leading everyone hes playing his ass off as he did for this whole tour. Jerry goes for a solo at 3:20 and nails it head on. This jam has gotten immediately hot. They have climaxed to 11! They are charging a train at this moment. Listen to billy! So at 4:30 they slow down. With bobby playing well very reggae sounding chords. This is all rythm section here. Its just bobby phil and billy and i really like this. At 6:00 they rev up the engines again! wheres jerry tho? Oh there he is! In essence they reversed the other one structure all together. We havn't really gotten a proper TOO intro yet making this a unique as all hell other one. X factor is acheived at 7:00 when they start zooming up cocaine like levels of energy. Phil has literally teared this other one apart Ive never heard him play so ferociously and taken the reigns on a TOO as much as he had on this one (But im sure my opinion will change again! haha). At 9:00 they have reached nirvana there is no other way to describe. This matches the 4/26 TOO for all out blazing hot intensity. Billy does a really great roll at 10:10. So at 10:30 we get the verses and pigpens only moment of glory.

So after the verses we head into the land of drums. The first segment of TOO was an A for sure. Lets see how they match up that other one after a short drum break. This is the first time in 72 that they have done a drum solo after the first verse (It usually comes after a truckin or later on a hes gone.)

This billy drum solo is about as good as a peter kriss drum solo. (Usually to me Billys drum solos are a hit or miss and this one is a big miss its aimless and has no groove.) So after the drum solo we enter a Phil Lesh bass solo. This is all drums and bass folks. Its like a coltrane elvin jones duet. This is a very happy sounding phil solo. This shows billys jazz roots very nicely. At 1:30 phil starts aerial bombs upon the french citizens. At 1:50 we now have a proper Too intro. Jerry is hitting the high notes perfectly at 2:06. They kept the jacked up energy too.

At 3:01 we enter a quiet passage Jerry repeats this web of chords very nicely. Listen to the sweet beat Kreutzmann gives the players. It almost sounds like Bob is hinting at a feeling groovy but never gets it. But it doesnt matter because this jam is sweet. So at 5:00 we head off into jerry Noodles but their focused noodles. Everyone is right now on Their A game. This is a very focused quiet passage. Right now I would call this a pretty jam. Its all in a major key and its played pretty. At 6:30 they begin a demented turn on the main theme. Billy almost plays too fast! but slows the ship down for everyone to catch up.

At 7:02 we enter into ambience. This makes or breaks the TOO. Go for too long you ruin everything. Go short and you get a great climax. At 7:40 jerry already wastes no time in starting up a tiger. Hes winding up! But at 8:00 he suddenly stops and just Wah Wahs away. We enter into scary space. Phils Bass saturating everything in its site with reckless abandon. at 9:20 jerry winds up again for a tiger. Phil starts the massive bombs at 9:30. At 10:30 jerry agains restates a tiger theme but no sells it again. Jeez Man just get to the goods.

This is a focused space (If you could call any space focused!). But I can see they are not trying to putz around everyone is doing what they are suppose to do in space. Jerry fans for a bit at 11:40. They are on the moon now the dark side that is. At 12:40 I heard something I am dreading. Bobby playing the Bobby mcgee chords. No!

Ugh. ( I seriously hate this godam song. I will honestly put it up there as the worst cover tune they ever did. This song is from a perspective of a women anyways!)

Even Garcia phones in a lame guitar solo after the chorus. They played this song a ton of times from 71-74. The only one that seems to have liked this song at all is Bobby because no one sounds they give a [CENSORED] about playing it!

So after that ugh song. We go back for the last of the TOO triumvirate (This is my favorite part of any dead jam when they split up the songs into multiple parts and weave their way in and out of songs.)

So This would be a TOO climax jam. It has the goods. Jerry is playing fast and hard with Bobby jabbing and slashing away like a great boxer. but once again after the Climax bobby sings the TOO verse.

Well they are coming and coming around right smack dab into a wharf rat.

Overall: This TOO is a unique one. It turned the jam structure inside out. The execution was solid with some really hot X factor moments sprinkled in throughout both of the jam segments. The only lamenes was of course the bobby mcgee. But this was a great great other one.

Grade: A-


05-10-72 Concertgebouw, Amsterdam, The Netherlands (Wed)
1: Bertha, Me & My Uncle, Mr. Charlie, China Cat> I Know You Rider, B. T. Wind, Next Time, Loser, Jack Straw, He's Gone, Chinatown Shuffle, Playin, Big RxR Blues, Big Boss Man, Greatest, Casey Jones
2: Truckin> Drums> Other One> Bobby McGee> Other One> Wharf Rat, BIODTL, Two Souls, Ramble On, Sing Me Back Home, Sugar Magnolia> NFA> GDTRFB> NFA
"He's Gone" appears on "Europe '72"


Notes: This could be the third longest TOO ever im pretty sure it is at least.

So lets begin with what else a truckin. You know E72 is great and all that stuff but jesus ive listened to so many dam truckins! not that its a bad tune but it just shows that the set lists werent all that varied. But oh well this a good truckin vibe.

The tempo isnt as sluggish as the last one but that one had a kickass truckin jam. Pigpens organ fills actually make sense in this song. At 2:00 Jerry lets out a shreiker of a high note. its real kickass! I always love the fills Jerry plays between the verses and this one is no exception. i have a feeling the truckin jam is going to be a scorther because this is a fine fine truckin.

So at 5:00 jerry starts up the truckin jam. We hear a nice keith chord pound at 5:10. Jerry provides a nice slinky little solo and listen to pigpen whail away give him a solo fellows! (Not really). They have entered into hotness at 6 minutes with phils brawny bass keeping everything teathered down. But things were not to be as they end the short ass truckin jam after only 2 minutes! Well it was the best 2 minutes of the whole song. But after the final bob screech we get some more hot truckin jamming. Listen to billy bang away on the cymbals! He lets out a great fill at 8:00.

Jerry is really on a role. Every solo hes done on this truckin was phenominal he gets the MVP for the truckin'.

So gee whiz i wonder whats going to happen. Oh a drum solo but its a nice one.
billy plays like a tribal mad man. He starts going on a cocaine like energy level at 2 minutes and starts the drumming for TOO. you can hear the audience go nuts.

Now for the main portion of my review. Beautiful solo Garcia lets out right away. These are pure fluttery solos at their best. Everyone has their racing shoes on today as the energy is at TOO levels (Cocaine Like Levels.)

Listen to keith playing away at 1 minute. Well at 1:30 they already deviate from the TOO theme and Phil now hammers away playing a massive bass line. Billy is drumming phenomnally as always. Jerry gives us some awesome palm muting at 2:20 . Keith is following jerry beautifully with a great cascading piano line. This is an X factor quiet passage. You can really feel everyone communicating with each other as if they are one body. At 3:30 comes ambience. Billy rolls one and Jerry starts the sputnik at 4:00. Its perfect for an ambient section like this. Each TOO these passages have gotten better and better. Billy starts a very bluesy drum groove.

Its like a demented blues pattern listen to phils Bass Pattern. WOW! this is so spooky. Its a rainy day blue jam. They drop it at 6 minutes and go back to ambience. Phil is a higlight of the rythm section Bobby hasn't done much that is interesting. Billy is getting into this nice flamenco like groove. Listen to keith trying to materialize it! Its so cool to hear keith playing behind everyone. At 8:20 Jerry leads everyone into a demented turn on the main theme.

Phil is phunking now with some nice wierd jerry sounds. Keith is in full groove now man! This is the first TOO where ive been really impressed by his playing.
Jerry starts them into an other one reprise jam nice! They are rock solid (Note for some odd reason pigpen is playing a maraca. Airto Moreria he is not.) But anyways Jerry hasnt fucked around at all in this TOO every thing hes been playing is leading the jam into new places. So at 11:20 Bob sings the verse. The whole pre Verse TOO jam was a classic.

Phil bombs and Billy gallops after the main verses are started. At 12:30 we enter into space mode. Jerry wastes no time in getting wierd Keiths piano now sounds like a rocket engine. good staccato playing from keith. So lets see how they do on this space. The way jerry is playing is almost like something is melting away. This space is full of life to tell you the truth Its free form in a structured way which is a plus in my book. Jerry is in tiger mood at 15:20. Its so strange hes doing Tiger fanning! it sounds like running water. Jerrys guitar doesnt even sound like a guitar any more it sounds like something out of space.

Jerry starts a proper tiger windup at 17:00. he didnt complete one the last one lets see if he does so this time. But it was a false one! [CENSORED] trickster. Phils Bass starts to go into feedback overdrive mode and now things are just out of control!

Jerry is getting fiery now and winds up a tiger at 19 minutes but he doesnt climax instead we a massive fast caution like drum pattern from billy! [CENSORED] where did that come from. Keith yes Keith is soloing! good call. This is in some serious jazz territory now. Keith plays like a mix of herbie hancock and bop style pianists but this is awesome. at the 21st minute we enter into some more [CENSORED] blues type playing. Keith the saloon piano player comes out.

so at 22 minutes Jerry begins a sputnik. Bobby is playing a sputnik like part to. This jam is very strange its like mutated sputnik. Billy plays a jazz like drum part in the back. At 23:30 they are very close to reprising the TOO theme. Jerry has been playing razor sharp for this whole TOO no noodles for Jerome right now. Exploding out at the 24th minute is a half TOO reprise jam. So Far: i have not lost interest with this TOO at all it is keeping me geussing at every turn.

At 25:20 Jerry has now reached nirvana peeling off high note after high note. They are really hard charging now. Phil starts of a great Bass line at 26:30 its another jazz inspired jam. Finally Bobby starts providing some great chords at 27:30. At 28:00 Garcia is brewing up a storm that is peaking and peaking. Phil starts the TOO bass intro again at 28:30 Kablam bitch! Jerry starts a melodic based solo off this really weird chord he plays. This is what a improviser does best add onto a great melody. At 29 minutes we enter into some more sublime dead ambience. This time Kreutzmann and Keith leave bobby phil and jerry to there own doing. Phils Bass sounds like a giant bell going off (Wierd simile right?).

Bobby is playing beautifully. Jerry hears this and definately gets inspired. Beleive or not this is absolutely incredible for an ambient peace! Its got this great little groove to it without any drums.

Jesus i swear it sounds like lost sailor! no joke! So what do I call it? hmm. "Sort of Lost Sailor Jam" Oh God no.


Yep we get fucking bobby mcgee again.

Rolling Eyes

Once again Jerry just phones in another solo. Got to love when Weir says bobbys body kept me from the cold! Not like that isnt homoerotic at all.

So after that filler we head right back into the TOO for a conclusion. So Garcia squeezes out one last great solo to properly finish this TOO. So with a wave of the deads wand they enter right into the tail of august west.

Overall: This is my third favorite TOO so far. Why you may ask? Well for one the quiet jams were the best yet. Garcias playing was so razor sharp and focused and keith and phil were Smothering the rythm section with greatness. If you want an intense balls to the wall TOO you take 4/26, but if you want a chilled out Jazzed up other one you take 5-10-72

Grade: A+



05-13-72 Lille Fairgrounds, Lille, France (Sat)
1: Bertha, B. T. Wind, Chinatown Shuffle, Loser, BIODTL, Mr. Charlie, China Cat> I Know You Rider, Me & My Uncle, Big RxR Blues, Next Time, Playin, Sugaree, Mexicali, Casey Jones
2: Truckin> Drums> Other One> Big River, He's Gone, Hurts Me Too, Sugar Magnolia, NFA> GDTRFB> NFA E: Saturday Night
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So here we go the last show the dead played in france for E72 and the only time they played at the lille Fairgrounds. So once again we get a truckin...variety at its best folks! Once again it seemed like this truckin groove is slow as all hell (They never seem to get the vibe just perfect for the whole song! only 4/26 and 4/24 come to mind!)

So honestly theres really nothing i can say that hasnt been said in my previous reviews about truckin' so im just going to wait for the jam.

So at 5:37 we get the truckin jam. Wow listen to bobby play! besides that this truckin jam hasnt been interesting at all to say the least. the only one that is doing something really good is bobby. i can barely hear keith play ne thing. So at 7:30 we still havent gotten anything cool except from bobby. (Notes from Jesse Harwoods mind: Cant listen to anymore E72 truckins!)

So the intial truckin jam was a lame one at 8:30 bobby restates the hey get back truckin on.

Its weird to think that Mr.Weir has been the best one playing. This is one laid back truckin' and thats not what its all about.

At 10:30 they stop and billy whams away on the drums.

Yep we have a billy drum solo. standard stuff nothing to say (Notes: Sorry fellows that i sound so dour but i think im really through with reviewing all these godam truckins and drum solos!)

So after a 2 minute drum solos were off to the races. This is a laid back TOO as well. But its a ton more interesting than that truckin'. Everyone is focused and playing the roles all of them excell at (Cept for pigpen). These initial jams are always great to listen to. Bobby really has been playing phenomnally its very inspiring for everyone. At 2:30 they hike up the energy with some amazing Bobby playing to compliment Jer's rock solid lead lines. Keith is playing some nice stuff in the background.

Phils playing has been lackluster to say the least. i mean lackluster for phil is still incredible bass work.

At 4:30 Jerry gets into this very twangy solo which delivers the goods.
man that was the longest TOO theme jam yet it was 4 minutes long! So at 5 minutes we get a quiet passage jam.

Ambience awash me with billy cymbals. This is a great ambient section Full of life and beautiful sounds. This pretty dead. Its almost like an irish folk ballad. This is the first interesting moment of this TOO and i really like it.

At 7:05 we get noodle aways from everybody. Ugh give it a rest pigpen its not cool! (Note: Cliff hucker says pig adds eerie organ. No i wouldnt say they are eerie cliff Id say they are godawful and annoying!)

At 8:07 we get another happy major jam. This other one has been getting better and better now phil is officially into the jam. Jerry is in focused noodle mood with bobby fans at 8:50. X factor quiet passages folks. At 9:30 Jerry starts the arpeggios over and over again. So at 10:40 we restate the TOO theme with more energy and vigor. Bobby man the mans been attacking this song all night. At 11:08 we get the bobsters story about the spanish lady.

So here is the most critical part of the jam. The one that contains a space. At 12:06 phil starts soloing like a guitar! incredible! go lesh! Between his solo he lets out mini bombs. (Notes: Pigpen keeps on playing this organ part that sounds like a godam siren. its highly distracting and irritating. hes been doing this for the whole song.)

So at 13:00 Jerry enters back in. At 13:40 we enter into another quiet jam. But instead we get another happy sounding jam at 14:00. Cut at 14:28 but i dont we lost much. This is some great stuff man. If you ever want to hear how incredible jerry is at an improviser listen to these Jams in TOO.

At 15:40 Phil begins the demented my favorite things bass line but its a no sell because jerry is already into the space. At 16:00 Phil bombs and Jerry Wahs. Even this space seems laidback and not as terrifying. Phil keeps playing this bass line that sounds like the Jaws main theme. At 17:30 Jerry yep he starts a tiger windup come on! This time every one is starting to play with him so this is a tiger jam. At 18:15 hes climaxing! Holy tiga! sadly it was only a couple seconds. We head back into more space and comes back pigpens dreaded siren repeating notes. Oh [CENSORED] things are starting to get scary now. Especially Bobs guitar sounds like hes murdering it.

At 20:30 Bobby is playing some spanish sounding chords. He is playing the spanish jam chords! Spanish TOO fusion! At 21:18 Jerry begins a hyper fast sputnik line. At 12:30 phil is playing a great bass line so we head into a country jam! Listen to those drums by Billy. Ho down Dead. This is the best fast tempo jam yet just because of Billys amazing drums. At 22:40 Bobby sparks interest into a really great melodic based jam. They are now a single mind now. Both rythm players are now getting it on while Jerry flies over with a hot hot solo. X factor!

man this jam is just as hell as they come man. The space set it up beautifully and they have kept on digging deeper into it. At 25:11 they almost stop it but it was a false alarm. At 25:30 Phil plays the TOO bass line so we reprise the TOO. But this one is complete with Jerry Wah! At 27:20 massive climax acheived Shit!

They wind down and go into a hes gone.

Overall: Sorry about the Truckin' tirade but I will agree with Kochman and say that E72 had no godam variety at all. But aside from that I really dug this TOO. Once again it was another calm one with some great X factor jams sprinkled within. The Beginning jam was quite poor though.

Grade:B +


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5/03/72 has been added. I accidentally skipped over that one!
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5/10/72 added.
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Quote:
Yep we get fucking bobby mcgee again.

Rolling Eyes

Once again Jerry just phones in another solo. Got to love when Weir says bobbys body kept me from the cold! Not like that isnt homoerotic at all.


I've gotta say, I would have happily taken a few more years of Bobby McGee in Weir's rotation. Jerry phones in his solo? I'll grant you that his solos aren't all that different from one another, but dag. I don't think I've ever heard Jer spin one out that wasn't totally soulful and heartfelt, in my book. Ah well. Maybe you'll like this one?

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And fyi, Bobby McGee was written by Kris Kristofferson, a card-carrying dude, about a woman named Bobby. Several other dudes sang it as well before Janis had a hit with it, flipping the genders. Which is why, I'm guessing, GD versions of it are occasionally (mis)spelled "Bobbi McGee." Here's more than you probably wanted to know:

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Anyways, I otherwise wholeheartedly endorse this review of 5/10/72
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I just really cant stand the song. I dont like how bobby sings it and i think a better song could have complimented an Other one like sugar mags or hell even caution would have been kooler than Bobby mcgee.
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well, shit, yeah I would take an Other One>Caution>Other One anyday! Smile
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so yeah haha. but hey thank you everyone for giving me such good feedback on my reviews! it motivates to finish it.
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There are just a couple Other One>Cautions I can think of offhand...

One, of course, from 8/3/69, the Alligator>Other One>Caution.....over a half hour of psychedelic madness! But that was a special occasion, of course.
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And from the download series, 4/17/69 has an Other One>Cryptical>Caution....but sadly, the power is cut during Caution, ending the show!
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ahh yes 8/3/69 now that is one hell of a combo! the caution sounds like space is being sucked into a vacuum cleaner.
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5/13/72 has been added. I gave it a B+
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So, having done something similar to this (Sep 72 review)... I can imagine it is starting to burn you out to do these... no?
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yes i must admit that it is sort of getting tiring to hear truckin over and over again. Thats why i will prolly only do one per day or every two days. I just dont get how you listened to all those shows! i give heavy props to you dawg. but i plan on finishing this project even if it kills me. Laughing
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I started off fast and furious, and by the end, I was dreading each new show, putting it off as long as possible, etc.
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Loving this project. I totally agree about the Aarhus show. Killer Truckin>Other One jam. I've seen it mislabeled as Truckin>Caution>Other One, but I don't really hear Caution in it. Great jam. A E72 not-so-hidden gem.
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deadbase also suggested that there was a UJB in that jam too! heres what ive noticed about the TOO in E72. It keeps getting more in fashion with Jazz. theres alot more jazz based jams that ive heard in the last couple other ones then when they started with it and the quiet passages are getting way way better.
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05-16-72 Radio Luxembourg, Luxembourg (Tue)
1: Bertha, Me & My Uncle, Mr. Charlie, Sugaree, B. T. Wind, Chinatown Shuffle, China Cat> I Know You Rider, BIODTL, Hurts Me Too, Tennessee Jed, Playin, Promised
2: Truckin> Drums> Other One> Sing Me Back Home, Sugar Magnolia, NFA> GDTRFB> NFA
E: Saturday Night
sound check: "Big River," "Sugar Magnolia"


So here we go the only dead show ever played in the small land of luxemburg. I just started with the drums because im tired of listening to truckin. This is a fast roller of a drum solo by Billy. i love his drumming sound its super deep and groovy. This is honestly the best drum solo i have heard by one mr.Kreutzmann its fast and energetic and tight too.

BAM! we get a massive phil intro. This soundboard is nice crispy and clean. Jerry is a little low in the mix though. So we get plenty of phil and bobby. But man listen to the energy levels on this! This is the kind of intro i love to an other one fast and hard charging and going at break neck pace. So after that X factor like blast of intensity they slow it down immediately at 1:20 but it was another false alarm as they keep the speed demon alive. Godam this is just too hot to touch everyone is an mvp right now!

At 3:00 we still have a blazer of a jam going Phil and jerry are totally on with each other you can tell right away with Bobbys slashing chords and pigpen no where to be found. this is shaping up to be a hot as hell TOO.

So at 4:30 it morphs into a wind down jam. 4:50 we enter into a free form "Putz around" jam as i call them. This is a sort of jazz like freeish spacey jam in a way. Its like intense pastoral music really. Sheesh phil is just killing me at 6:30 crazy stuff hes been playing.

So at 6:50 we enter back into a TOO reprise vocal. Pigpen enters. These bobby vocals are energetic. Its always a sign that its a hot one if Bobby can nail the vox in a TOO. So instead of heading right into the space they are still jamming onto the TOO theme. Bobby now wants to beat Phil to see who can be the best rythm man and id say they are both first place! So at 9:02 holy shit! Ghost like screeching coming from jerry. we have entered the land of space. At 9:30 Keith puts into the creepy Piano effects. This is beautiful space tho just listen to Jerrys haunting guitar. At 10:50 jerry winds up a tiger i can sense this one is gona be intense and im right! Hold on your fucken hats! Jerry climaxes at 11:22 as the crowd prolly gets the daylights scared out of them. shortest tiger climax but still great timing. We are now in scary space as Phil cranks up the Bomb level. At 13:14 Jerry lets off the longest sustained feedback ive ever heard its like 5 seconds of one feedback note!

At 13:40 Jerry starts going for major flutter noodles. The others pick up and lay him down the support. Keith starts up a great line. Listen to everyone crowd around. Its a dead jazz jam! But nothing really materializes in it. So at 15:17 jerry leads us back into the TOO reprise. At 15:50 tho we get Jerry improvising around another great motif as he leads them into a new jam all together. Billy gives us a fast drum beat at 16:30 and rolls at 16:52. Bobby starts to fan at 17:20 with Jerry playing a razor sharp solo. Nice transition into the TOO reprise climax jam!

but at 18 minutes we get the bobby verses and no segue!

Overall: This was a great short little TOO. The intro jam was one of my favorites. Although the tiger climax was short it led a massive wallop. This is a hidden gem of a TOO if you ask me

Grade: A-


05-24-72 The Strand Lyceum, London, England (Wed)
1: Cold Rain, BIODTL, Mr. Charlie, Deal, Me & My Uncle, Hurts Me Too, Dire Wolf, B. T. Wind, Chinatown Shuffle, China Cat> I Know You Rider, Playin, You Win Again, Jack Straw, Casey Jones
2: Rockin Pneumonia, Mexicali, Black Peter, Truckin> Drums> Other One> Sing Me Back Home> Sugar Magnolia, Lovelight E: Saturday Night
final "Hurts Me Too" - final Pigpen "Lovelight" - "Mexican Hat Dance" tuning before "Truckin" - "Hurts Me Too" and "You Win Again" appear on "Europe '72" - also: NRPS


We have only 2 more E72 Shows! So LIA told me instead of listening to the whole truckin I should just go straight to the jam and i think i will do it! So this release Phils loud and proud. Sounds like a very energetic truckin'. Man their just flying straight the get go! it almost makes me wana listen to the whole song Laughing This is just one cocaine level truckin listen to Bobby! This jam is actually going off into something new. X factoring big time for this truckin'. At 7:30 they quiet it down. Phil is doing some great work. If you want hot jerry and phil action then this truckin jam is your calling card!

At 8:50 its like the jam transforms into a bar room shuffle. This is seriously one interesting truckin' jam. At 9:22 we finally get the chorus reprise. man that was long awesome truckin jam! (Note: Bobby sounds like a bird regurgitating!)

But nope folks we still have some jamming to go as they build up a climax. Jerry is fluttering nicely along Bobby is buried beneath Phil which is a shame. Keith plays a really nice piano line at 11:30. So at 11:48 everyone just the drop out for a billy drum solo.

This is another short drum solo but short drum solos are ten times better than 19 minute ones. At 1:14 the crowd lets out a cheer as Billy goes faster and faster keep it going billy!

and now for the main portion of the set. Sort of sloppy intro to the TOO. The groove on this is to die for. Billy is doing a half gallop while Phil is laying it down really thick and sticky. At 54 seconds they zoom it up and Jerry hits the sweet high notes. They have found the TOO groove! At 1:40 they have already diverted away from the other one theme. They seem to be lacking some energy though I dont know i can't explain it. It just sounds tired. At 2:20 it seems like jerry wants to get some massive energy boosts but nope we stay at the same tempo. Phil right now is the man to listen to. Hes stealing jerrries thunder! At 3:26 Phil starts the demented My favorite things bass line yes! Dead Jazzy jam! Finally Jerry starts to bring some great playing and does a really creepy two chord progression at 4:00. Right now this TOO is extremely disjointed it just doesnt sound like they know where they want to go. At 4:40 we have entered a quiet passage. Phil yes phil actually enters out of the playing! whoa! What we are left with is bobby billy jerry and mr.keith. At 6:00 Garcia and Weir play an interlocking guitar theme and it seems like they have stumbled on something they like.

Finally the energy thats been lacking has come back at 6:30! Jerry is now kicking some heavy ass along with Bobby listening to what they are playing! godam! Phil comes back to keep down the bottom. Its like a dead waltz almost. This is the first great jam of the other one after being so disjointed everyone sounds focused. From 8:40 to 8:50 jerry does a massive fan dam! this jam is like ethnic in a way. It had some awesome moments as well. So at 9:20 we enter back into TOO jammage. Phil hammers at ten minutes as Billy does the galloping drum line(Love that!). 11 minutes the energy levels starts to get jacked up on steroids as Bobby busts out the verses. Why couldnt they have this kind of energy in the beginning? lol.

We get some great cymbal action from Billy post verse along with the always great phil bombs. So Far its been all jerry and phil they have carried the TOO on thier backs by sheer force. Bobby has been playing decently and keith is alright. At 13:20 we settle back down into another quieter section. I can smell a space! Its a sort of space. Its just phil bobby and jer. Phils bass starts feedbacking At 15 minutes. Same with jerry. Billy enters in by way of cymbal at 16:12. Yes! Phil starts up a really cool descending bass line. Thank you billy! Keith is now playing some great licks. Jerrys got some focused noodles along with a wierd flanging effect that bobby has on as well. At 18:23 the jam gets hotter im loving this. Phils bass line almost sounds like crossroads! Awesome fill by Billy at 19:20. Everyone is in synch now. This is so the highlight of this whole jam. Its an awesome jam that they are sticking do and going deep into it. At 20:00 Bobby gets some awesome chomping work with some Great Jerry wah playing. The jam is still going along great at 21:00 with a nice Creepy Keith and Jerry. Its like a raelly good space style jam now! But not boring! I can hear bobby and keith are really working together now. This is such an awesome jam.

At 22:30 Jerry reaches massive Nirvana. at 22:50 he starts a tiger windup! out of nowhere man! At 23:40 we get a huge Tiger payoff jesus! one hell of an intense tiger. At 24:09 we continue on with another post jam. Bobby evn does a tiger of his own at 24:30! This is X factor all the way. At 25:07 Jerry starts the TOO guitar line while Phil is still bombing away.

The energy has also gotten a bigger boost. Great solo from Jerry as Billy does an awesome Job of rolling down the beat. At 27:40 jerry gives us some feedback that could peel paint! Dam this is a hot climax right here. The jam just keeps getting better and better. At 29 minutes we get Bobbys verses about Cowboy Neal as they come around into sing me back home.

Overall: This TOO just kept on getting hotter and hotter. The whole pre verse jam was severly disjointed with some decent stuff played. But the whole highlight of the TOO was the post verse jam. They never really did play a space and it got really intense after the tiger. Awesome work fellas.

Grade: A+


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5/16 added.
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You skipped an interesting version of Truckin' from that 5/16 show. Not the best Truckin jam by any means, but about three minutes into the jam part--perhaps accidentally--they play the final verse again... (Truckin', I'm a-goin' home.... Get back truckin' on!!!"). I've never heard them do that before. It's as if they're winding up for another jam again. Kind of cool. Then there's a pretty cool meltdown for the last two minutes before drums.

But that's just me. I'd never skip Truckin, not so much for the song part, but for the jam that comprises most of the second half of the song. It's one of my favorite Dead songs. I'm actually working on a sort of Truckin' project that I'll post sometime soon.
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dont get me wrong i like truckin alot too especially the jams. i just needed a break from them for a little while i will prolly listen to truckin again after the next review.
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I'd recommend just skipping to the 5-minute mark in Truckin. That way you get the full jam - and you can usually be sure there's not much special to write about in the "song" part!

Kochman's Sept '72 project was quite a bit harder I believe, since he had to write about every song & you're just doing "the good part"....which is pretty different from show to show actually. (Whereas listening to a month straight of the same songs can get monotonous.)
Actually, it would be a breeze to just listen to all these Other Ones straight through - it's describing them all that's tough!

I've never listened to all the shows in order, but my theory about E72 is that the jams keep getting spacier as the weeks go by. Could be wrong, based on just the few I've heard most recently. So I'm interested to hear how your O1 project confirms or disproves that. Still a few weeks to go!

By the way, snow&rain - that Truckin' "reprise verse" was in pretty much every '70/71 version, I believe. '72 is the year when they stopped doing that....to my great relief. I much prefer it when they just jam straight through, rather than stopping & restarting like that.
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Ive noticed that LIA. when E72 started they were still in total exploding intense mode. But these last couple TOOs have been more ambient and have had more instances of quieter passages and Jazz based jams. These have been my favorite ones so far well except for for 4/7 and 4/26 those are crazy other ones and might be the most intense E72 other ones.
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light into ashes wrote:
I'd recommend just skipping to the 5-minute mark in Truckin. That way you get the full jam - and you can usually be sure there's not much special to write about in the "song" part!

Kochman's Sept '72 project was quite a bit harder I believe, since he had to write about every song & you're just doing "the good part"....which is pretty different from show to show actually. (Whereas listening to a month straight of the same songs can get monotonous.)
Actually, it would be a breeze to just listen to all these Other Ones straight through - it's describing them all that's tough!

I've never listened to all the shows in order, but my theory about E72 is that the jams keep getting spacier as the weeks go by. Could be wrong, based on just the few I've heard most recently. So I'm interested to hear how your O1 project confirms or disproves that. Still a few weeks to go!

By the way, snow&rain - that Truckin' "reprise verse" was in pretty much every '70/71 version, I believe. '72 is the year when they stopped doing that....to my great relief. I much prefer it when they just jam straight through, rather than stopping & restarting like that.

Definitely some good ideas in this post... including the actual describing of the same song, though played differently, because it will generally have a lot of the same themes other than when it gets out there... grab your thesaurus!

Interesting idea about E72 getting spacier as it goes along... 4/8/72 is an amazing show, but it's jam vehicles are more focused than spacey (which I appreciate). Since it was either TOO or DS that served to form the main meat of all shows in 72, following one (TOO in this case) is a good way to verify that theory... plus add that to dogstarz's DS project, and you could basically have the answer.
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light into ashes wrote:
By the way, snow&rain - that Truckin' "reprise verse" was in pretty much every '70/71 version, I believe. '72 is the year when they stopped doing that....to my great relief. I much prefer it when they just jam straight through, rather than stopping & restarting like that.


I don't think it's done in many of the 1970 versions. First one I know of is one of the Capitol Theater shows in November. It does seem to have become a regular thing throughout 1971 during the stand-alone versions, when they'd use it to wrap up the song. I think they dropped it when Truckin' became a launching pad for other jams like The Other One. In that sense, the 5/16/72 show is rather unique.
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05-26-72 The Strand Lyceum, London, England (Fri)
1: Promised, Sugaree, Mr. Charlie, B. T. Wind, Loser, Next Time, El Paso, Dire Wolf, Two Souls, Playin, He's Gone, Cumberland, Jack Straw, Chinatown Shuffle, China Cat> I Know You Rider, NFA> GDTRFB> NFA
2: Truckin> Other One> Drums> Other One> Morning Dew> Other One> Sing Me Back Home, Me & My Uncle, Ramble On, Sugar Magnolia, Casey Jones E: Saturday Night
"Truckin" and "Morning Dew" appear on "Europe '72" - final "Chinatown Shuffle" - final "Mr. Charlie" - final "Next Time" - final "Two Souls"- also: NRPS


Notes: Well boys and girls its the last show of E72. This to me is also pigs final stand (Yes ik he played one last show but he didn't sing.). To me the deads blues were never really the same without pigpen. So yeah hes an easy target to pick at cuz hes a shitty ass organ player and some of his lovelights go on forever, but when he nailed he really nailed it!
So once again i just started at the 5 minute mark for the jammage. (This show has a sort of unique set list for 72 in that is the NFA sandwhich is not at the end.)

So at 6 minutes we great a good solid lead line from jerry. Keith is really playing his ass off right now though. Complimenting jerry perfectly like any good piano player knows how to do. The truckin' energy is in the right place. Man i just listening to keith hes a monster. Their close to getting it really hot they havent exploded just yet. So at 8:30 they settle the ship down a bit for some good old fashion boogie playing. So out of truckin' we get a TOO!

Its not really an other one more in the lines with a truckin jam still. Sweet tandom of Jerry and keith at 55 seconds! So at 1:30 jerry hikes the gas up while phil lets out a nice greasy bass line. This is seriously like a post truckin jam that keeps going. not really a TOO but still really awesome. This is an awesome jam. finally at 4:16 Jerry drops a brief hint at the other one. Oh [CENSORED] dawg! out of nowhere at 5:02 comes a great west coast jazz sounding exploration. Great Bobby chords with some wicked phil bass thrown in for good measure. This has the X written all over it Keith is doing some great dissonant chords in the background while Jerry is peaking and digging deeper into it. At 6:40 yep he starts whale calls! spooky and it hurts evn more when you have a headache! (Like i do right now ): ) At 8 minutes it starts getting white hot awesome. Billy hikes up the drum beat with keith provided beautiful support for the triumvirate. So finally at 8:40 jerry winds up an other one guitar line. But it was just a tease and we head into those jams i love so much! Laughing

At 9:40 its just Phil bombs. like seriously just phil bombs. Out of those phil bombs we get the TOO theme at 10 minutes! wicked [CENSORED] man! This one is brimming with some massive energy. We get some awesome billy gallops at 11 minutes. At 11:40 we head off into a sweet keith piano melody jam. Jerry is hitting the high notes like his life depended on with Bobby providing some twangy chords.

So after a very inspired hot wierd other one, we head into the land of drums. These are skull rattling drums powerful and big. Jerry noodles away in the background. Its a bo Diddley beat baby! Jerry fans silently as everyone enters back in. Its like Billy is still doing his solo while everyone joins back in. Its a jerry Phil and billy jam really kool shit. If you wana hear how the dead would sound as a power trio hes your chance. Great support by mr.lesh as Jerry launches into a really pretty guitar line. At 2:35 billy whams away furiously as Phil gets into some phunk! This is really a great jam and really unique i mean how many times do you hear just jerry phil and billy play? So at 4:00 everyone enters back in and keep jamming the [CENSORED] out of that great phil billy jerry jam. Bobby is doing some nice psudo reverse guitar effects nice stuff Weir.

Once again they give billy a drum solo at 5:30. This one is wild and out of control. Heavy heavy billy drum solo. I would say that this is his best one so far (Out of all the E72 ones ive heard). So at 7:40 we finally get a proper other one intro with a huge phil roll. Awesome descending and ascending piano by Keith! So at 8:26 we get Bobs verses and the only kool thing pigpen ever did on the organ. We get some sweet jerry twang after the verses with some awesome billy drum slams. Man his drums have just been beaten to a bloody pulp on this TOO. So hear we go ambient playing. (Note: This jam is called the prelude on E72.) Now entering ambient/space.

This is very happy though. Almost sounding irish in tone especially with pigpens organ. Nothing much to report on here so far very uninteresting. At 13:12 Billy enters in Bobby sounds like he wants to get something going so does billy. The jam is finally getting somewhere good now. Billy fully chimes in on 14:24 while jerry is melting like a candle with the wah pedal. Keith is now playing furiously at 15 minutes. Its total free form playing now as jerry is hinting at a tiger windup! Sheesh are we at a sun ra show now? Billy interjects some kick ass drumming parts at 16:20 with phil providing one motherfunkin bass line. Dam! At 16:40 jerry winds up a tiger! slowly but surely hes getting faster!

Hes almost there but swerves off to join everyone in on a great jam. X factoring all the way! Keith is pounding it out like hes Mcoy tyner. he turns on the spooky piano effects at 17:40. This space jam is getting out of hand. Jerrys feedback at 18:30 sounds like a ghost just entered into the building. Bobby plays a nice chugging riff at 19:30 as Billy drops out once again.

Wait at 19:50 i hear something. MORNING DEW! awesome swerve fellas and what a great way to shake up the set list. By 72 they were well on their way to incredible dews. Jerrys voice sounds very nice ive always loved Bobs playin on dews. Even pigs organ sounds good on this tune! Keiths piano is awfully sweet. Massive energy push up at 3:15 with phils mighty bass getting evn sludgier. Nice jerry solo between verses as phil bombs away. At 6:12 jerry restates the vocals sounding like he just lost someone close to him.

So after jerry sings the vocals we get some awesome high notes at 8:18. This jerry solo is all great high notes not one bum note in it. We get some energy boost at 9:38 with some stately pig organ. Massive jerry fan at 9:57 godam this is a hot dew! (Note:This TOO>Dew combo only happened 4 times in 72!) So after a great fan. Jerry geusses that it doesnt matter any ways and heads right back into the other one.

So this would be considered the other one climax jam. Everyones fired up after that great dew. Nice ripping energy come from jerries guitar. Bob throws out some great chords at 1:24 with phil lumbering his way down the middle. Nice curve on the TOO theme. We get some nice billy cymbal work at the 2:30. At 3:00 jerry starts off sweet jam with Bobby playing his ass off shit! This is all happy fun times ppl. So at 4:30 we head back into other one land. as they wind down they head into the second ballad of the evening with sing me back home.

overall: What a way to end europe 72! this was seriously one wierd ass TOO. The first part sounded like a massive truckin jam but finally started off the other one at the last 2 minutes but any who it was a sweet hot other one. The second part took the icing with a cool Jerry phil billy jam and then swerving into a hot dew made it even cooler!

Grade: A+

Thoughts on E72 other ones: So since we are done with E72 ill give you some thoughts about them.

Well for one thing most of the other ones are must hear music from this tour. Alot of them are blazing white hot. As they went on, the jams became more unpredictable and added alot more variety to the mix. Jazz became a key part of most of the other ones at the end of the show. Some bad things were that some of them can be incredibly disjointed and really boring. Alot of them in the beginning had some predictable jams (Lots of sputnik jams in the beginning.) with a quiet section after the intial burst of energy in the beginning. Also come on seguing into Bobby mcgee is the poorest choice ever! But all in all there is alot to love about the TOOs of E72.


06-17-72 Hollywood Bowl, Hollywood, Ca. (Sat)
1: Promised, Sugaree, B. T. Wind, Tennessee Jed, Me & My Uncle, China Cat> I Know You Rider, Playin, Loser, BIODTL, Stella Blue, El Paso, Casey Jones
2: Rockin Pneumonia
Pigpen's last show, he did not sing - tapes from 11-20-71 often have this date - sound check: "Half Step" - first "Stella Blue" - also: NRPS


Well were out of europe and into the only show they would play in june. This is the last show pigpen would ever play his crappy organ on. (Note: Deadbase hasnt been updated in so long so yes their is an other one.)

So we get a marginally good AUD. Phils bass is really loud and so is pigpens organ. But this is 72 and this is about as good as youll get with a 72 AUD. It sounds like a really really good truckin tho the energy is totally up. At 5:30 jerry lets out a really ripping solo too bad the sound goes to massive shit! But at least you can still hear him. This is really a great truckin jam full of energy man really good shit. (Notes: Some reviewers think that the second set might not even be at all from this show. oh well.) But man what a great truckin this is! if only it was in better quality. Phils bass is loud and proud and jerry is playing out of his mind. So after an X factor like truckin jam we get the chorus reprise vocals and cheers from the crowd. The truckin reprise vocals were at about 8:10. Like i said this truckin sounds like a fuckin beast. Keith pounds the [CENSORED] ouf of his piano at 8:50 as we head into the outro jam. Lots more clapping along but you can still hear the music pretty good.

Awesome Billy fill at 9:40 as it sounds like the whole things going to break down into peaces. So the crowd starts to cheer as bill the drummer goes off into a solo. Im sure the crowd was really happy to see their heroes return after europe. This is a good Bill solo its got that great Bo Diddley NFA beat going with it. At 2:14 he starts off the TOO drum smacks. The crowd loves these drum solos!

So out of the drum solos Jerry immediately starts to let off a great solo that you can barely hear. Once again this is a super high energy other one that sounds just incredible! Bobby is barely audible but you can hear both keyboards and jerry and phil just fine. At 1:30 Jerry is really letting loose with phil extremely high in the mix now. So at 2:06 we leave TOO for some freeish playing. Phil is playing like a monster right now with keith giving it all his best. At 3:30 we enter into ambience. Phils bass is way way too loud now! At 4:16 we get a cut. But we are still firmly entrenched in ambience. Jerry is doing some great spooky lines with bobby now a little bit more audible. The crowd is completley silent now. at 5:01 Jerry calls to the whales (Love when he does that!) At 5:30 phil sounds like he really wants to get something going with a really sweet bass pattern he just picked up on. At 6:20 it sounds like a latin shuffle has just been hit but once again no one sells it. Phil begins another sweet bass line at 6:50 and now Billy enters back in. This is great stuff! Sounds like a night ride out in L.A. in the 60s! Just listen to Jerry playing! Sweet little jam. Keith is playing a great rythm section while jerry feeds off of his rythm section to deliver a solid latin fused solo. At 19:15 Jerry lets the flutter flies out as he lets off another immaculate sounding solo. This is a sweet ass jam with jerry laying down it hot. At 9:50 we start to hike up the energy considerably as Billy fills. that was one x factor like solo. At 10:45 we get the TOO reprisal and the verses. At 11:04 we get the last time pigpen would ever do that organ fill Crying or Very sad .

So after a really great pre verse jam lets see what they can do with the jammage after the verses. At 12:01 jerry is so distant but i can distincly make out chiming guitar parts. At 12:40 we are still on the other theme and jerry unleashes a Wah inducing solo! At 13:15 we slow it down as Billy goes out once more with cymbals. At 13:57 we have entered the solar system. They wont be clapping for long! At 15:01 Phil bombs at the bowl as it sounds like Jerry is looking around for a tiger to start up! This one is so whacked out and furious! Billy emerges out like a jack rabbit at 16:10 holy shat! what a sweet space! At 17:16 we can hear bobby fanning while Jerry winds up a tiger! This would be the first tiger climax in america. At 18:10 he achieves a wicked tiger! We emerge from a tiger with a fast and furious billy pattern with Phils bass just smoldering! we get a country ho down jam! Clap along for sure people! Its all flutterly garcia with Keith as the bar saloon piano player.

They really catch fire at the 20th minute. Jerry does some more tiger like sounds at 20:23. At 21:11 it sounds like they could have busted out into a caution but Garcia restates the TOO theme with Phil doing a creepy bass part. At 22:15 we get weirs vocals and the last moment of pigpen in a TOO. So as they state how they will come around they land right into ramble on rose.

Overall: Like many at the pub have stated don't let sound quality scare you away. Yeah this is a mediocre AUD but you can still hear everyone pretty fine. Other than that this was a really sweet high energy other one. The country jam at the end was awesome as was the pre-TOO verse jam.

Grade: A


07-16-72 Dillon Stadium, Hartford, Ct. (Sun)
1: Promised, Cold Rain, B. T. Wind, Sugaree, Playin, Tennessee Jed, Jack Straw, Deal, Mexicali, Stella Blue, Cumberland> Me & My Uncle, Half Step> Sing Me Back Home, Casey Jones
2: Truckin> Drums> Other One> He's Gone> Other One> L. L. Rain, Ramble On, Sugar Magnolia, NFA*> GDTRFB*> Hey Bo Diddley* E: Johnny B. Goode
*with Dickey Betts, Berry Oakley and Jai Johanny Johanson, without Philfirst "Half Step"


So the first show of July and we get the first half step and members of the ABB at the end of the second set. So we get the first post-pigpen truckin and after a rather sluggish start to the verses we get it in high energy gear with the jam. Phil is loud and proud on this nice SBD. But dam he is scorching right now countering Jerry with some sweet bass lines. Its almost like phil is soloing right along with jerry! So far this has been a solid truckin' jam nothing really hot yet. They still havent kicked into massive high gear which is frustrating to say the least. (I like my truckins full of energy.)

At 8:19 we get a slow down section some good Piano fills from keith. Phil almost does a walking bass line with Bobby doing some really uninteresting chord work. At 9:20 we get the reprise vocals. Pretty unmemorable first truckin jam. Lets see what they can do post chorus. At 10:05 phil does some cool bombs.

So we head off into drums. nice little drum solo by billy. The intro to TOO is nice and energetic. Billy explodes out of the gates. Garcia immediately starts a sweet solo with some great sustained notes in it. Phil is tearing it up as always. This is an awesome way to start off an other one. Everyone is firing on all cylinders musically and energy wise. At 1:45 we immediately deviate from the theme as Phil lets out some ringing high bass notes. Its not a quiet passage exactly its just a high energy one but not a TOO jam. still cool though. this also could be the shortest TOO of the year clocking in at 16:49.

At 3:00 we slow down big time and keep getting slower! way cool! At 3:37 we head into ambience but Billy wants to keep it lively. He interjects this very nice tribal sounding drum pattern as Garcia solos beautifully over it. Its almost like a mutated DS drum pattern.

This is all light and airy playing folks. But still solid as a rock. At 4:50 its total free form playing now. At 5:50 Jerry returns to the massive energy we got at the beginning of TOO. Phil is just flying off the handle now someone needs to cool him off because hes way hot! At 6:30 we return to a TOO theme but Jerry is playing this awesome melody. At 7:12 we get phil and billy! Yes! another wrinkle has been added into the other one. This isnt a jazz one like last times phil and billy. Its all fast and furious almost aimless yet it sounds very cohesive in a wierd sort of way. This is the first interesting part of the other one! At 8:13 everyone returns into the fold again. Noodling around it sounds like to find a good rythm.

At 9:00 we head into another sweet major jam. Jerry wahs it up now! Yes boys keep the energy going youve got it now! They have grabbed it by the balls and not are letting it up awesome jam here. Man this jam just twists and turns at every moment. Some great X factoring here. This has been my favorite part of the whole jam so far. At 11:46 Jerry begins a creepy wah space guitar line. Now we have entered into space. Jerry wastes no time in starting up an extremely fast tiger line! But its a spacey like jam not a full space jam if that makes ne sense lol.

At 13:09 Jerry really begins to peel off the wahs as phils bass has officially been turned into a car engine. We get some beautfiul incredible guitar lines from jerry at 14:23. Wow this is beautiful seriously. What an awesome musical turn from emotions. This all slow pastoral and spacey all mixed into an awesome jam. At 15:40 we get some really really high notes from Jer. Bobbys doing awesome burning slashing chords in the back while Phil takes on a sweet bass line. At 16:30 Phil lets out a huge bomb. But out of those bombs comes..Hes gone! another sweet swirve by the guys! the segue was very perfect too (almost too perfect...Haha.)

This is a nice tempo for the gone. Its not exactly a ballad yet still in its embryonic form almost.

At 3:40 Jerry begins the first solo. It sounds Baby blue like almost. At 4:11 Jerry sings the melody on his guitar. Phil is doing great on this Gone. so after a pretty so so solo, we get more vocals at 4:30. The gone def. got better as the year progressed so I won't give it much flack for being not that interseting i mean the song was still a babe.

At 7:50 Jerry turns on the wah and Bobby turns on the phaser sweet sounds right here. At 8:06 They melt down big time and head into the other one. Nice transition. Were still in full noodle mode again. Its almost like the He's Gone never happened!

So at one minute its just billy keith and Jer as he Wah's Wah's his way into the peoples hearts. At 1:30 Phil Does the TOO theme but no one sells it yet. Now were talking! 2 minutes in we get a huge energy surge as everyone is flying off the handle now. At 2:40 we finally enter the Bobs verse. Hes only singing the second verse today folks! At 3:40 we hear some more noodles as tey sound like thier going to head into more jammage. Nope they segue into L.L. rain instead.

Overall: Pretty solid TOO. This one breaks the mold once again as its the first one where we get no first verse from Bobby. This one had some pretty boring jams in the first part but at 11 minutes they really got it going. Solid other one Not bad and not great.

Grade: B


07-21-72 Paramount Northwest Theatre, Seattle, Wa. (Fri)
1: Promised, Sugaree, B. T. Wind, Cumberland, Bobby McGee, Loser, Mexicali, China Cat> I Know You Rider, BIODTL, Stella Blue, Playin, Tennessee Jed
2: Casey Jones, Me & My Uncle, Deal, Jack Straw, He's Gone> Truckin> Drums> Other One> Comes A Time, Sugar Magnolia E: Ramble On
"WRS Prelude" tease before "Me & My Uncle"


This show was released part of the download series luckily i found a torrent! The sound isnt the greatest but at least Phils Bass doesnt take up the whole dam band like the last SBD. At 5:50 we get some awesome Truckin Jerry guitar with the usual attack hed put in 72. At 6:51 we head off into another course as Jerry gives us a nice groovalicious solo. Its slinky with a good walking phil bass line to compliment everyone. Good truckin jam so far. This slower truckin' part has a sweet groove to it. Bob and Keith are totally locked in with each other as things seem to start to heat up at 8:30. So at 9:00 we get the usual truckin chorus reprisal. At the end of another solid truckin, we get a short short drum solo and i mean short! only 38 seconds. Theres a cut at 20 but it only seems to be minor. So what do we get? Why Phil and billy of course. Too bad phil is turned way the [CENSORED] down where you can barely hear him. Its some nice stuff though. We get another cut at 1:02. Personally i dig Phils bass solos there cool to me.

We get some sweet Phil bombage at the 1:40 mark as it seems they just latched onto a seriously awesome groove. At 2:30 Bill goes absolutely wild hes all energy tonight! It gets very messy at 3:30 as they have totally lost the groove. So phil enters out once again as we get a seriously wierd intro to TOO. I dont think any one really expected it to be honest even the band members! This is one laid back intro to the other one. Its def taking its time with no wreckless abandon what so ever. This makes it a tad more darker sounding. This is a really dark solo Garcia started out with. I am digging the hell out of this TOO its a nice slip shod approach to it. At 2:01 we get a big energy boost from the Great Gar as Billy tears the [CENSORED] out of his drums! Dam i wish i could hear phil more! So at 3:00 we enter into a really sweet passage. Its the sort of free form in a structured way. At 3:50 Billy starts an X factor like groove that the players can totally dig into. Which they do thoroughly. This one is really all Jerry hes playing his brains out right now. At 4:50 we hit some nice Jerry high notes as Phil is more prominent in the mix now. This is seriously one quiet TOO quieter and more subdued than 5/10 (But that one was a killer.) This is one is pretty dam good too. We get a great Keith melody at 6:20 but they don't stay on it for too long as they head back into the TOO theme reprisal. they don't stay long on it though as they head back into more Quiet like energy. So far It has been the Jerry and Billy other one they are taking the ship everywhere and anywhere at once.

So from the time the jam started at about 5:30 to now its been impressive to say the least. At 8:25 Jerry starts the jabs as Phil counters with some sweet bass. Jerry man oh man Gerald you just been killin me! (Sigh if only i was there.)

Mr. Godchaux is letting out some nice chords at 9:30 as they are still digging deep at this jam. At 10:30 they enter back into a full on TOO reprise seriously picking up massive steam as well! so at 11:34 we get Wiers vocal lines. So after the vocals are done we get a nice Galloping Billy drum beat with some spooky Garcia line on top of some creepy Keith piano. Its a creepshow man! So at 13:50 we enter the treacherous realms of space. Treacherous because some times they go on for too fucking long!

Jerry lets out a howler of a note at 15:26. At 16:20 we get the tiger windup! Faster faster!(Inapropriate comment: The tiger is like [CENSORED] you go faster faster and let out a climax.)

But it was just a teaser. So at 17:40 jerry does another windup but doesn't even attempt it. At 19:07 jerry begins a sputniking wah. The sputnik hasnt been seen in 2 months! At 20:00 we seriously the most unergetic TOO climax jam ever! I had to endure space for this?

So at 22:00 we get Bobs vocals and head into comes a time.

Overall: This was a very meh-TOO. I didn't really get knocked off my seat. The music was very laid back for the most part. I like the Pre verse jam though. That was the highlight. Once again just another decent other one.

Grade: B


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5/26 has been added. onto america!
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jessewood34 wrote:
Also come on seguing into Bobby mcgee is the poorest choice ever!

Agreed... that or BIODTL.
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6/17 has been added.
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They also did Other One>Ramble On Rose on 11-20-71... In fact, the second sets are so similar, it's been thought that our 6-17-72 second-set tape is actually from 11-20-71! (Of course, there's no Pig in Nov '71, so that should have been a giveaway...)

It's not as good as a '72 AUD gets, though. You have a couple AUDs coming later in the year....9-19-72 isn't great-sounding either, but 10-27-72 is pretty good.

Looking forward to more reviews! The Other One does go through quite a lot of changes this year...
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yes ik this. srry for that. But to me in terms of the tech back then it was still decent. but that statement i made wasnt very good. should i edit it?
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nice thread
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Thought you and Jesse are friends. Why you gonna [CENSORED] with his thread?
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because I want kocjh to remove the fucking link and only the community can make him.
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why you doing this duck? if you and koch are at each others throats then talk about it privately not on public threads.
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vladsmythe wrote:
because I want kocjh to remove the fucking link and only the community can make him.

Duck, are you mentally retarded?
Go into your profile, and change your signature... it really isn't that hard to figure out.
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07-25-72 Paramount Theater, Portland, Or. (Tue)
1: Promised, Sugaree, Me & My Uncle, Bird Song, B. T. Wind, Cumberland, Jack Straw, Big RxR Blues, El Paso, Tennessee Jed, Playin, Loser, BIODTL, Casey Jones
2: He's Gone, Greatest, China Cat> I Know You Rider, Mexicali, Truckin> Drums> Other One> Wharf Rat, Sing Me Back Home, NFA> GDTRFB> NFA


So here we are the paramount theater (Funny stuff first we were at the paramount northwest theater in seattle, now were at the paramount theatre in portland!)

This is the last other one of july and both of them have been subdued and not very good at all. So lets see if this one can make up for it. The SBD is very good everyone is at the same levels so no overpowering by ne body. The truckin jam starts out promising. Its a long ass truckin jam too 5 minutes long! So at 6:00 we get the first garcia solo. he sounds inspired enough with Bob doing some decent chords. So far nothing too memorable or exciting. At 7:12 we get some more good jerry playing. It sounds like hes the only giving really any effort at all though. The truckin still hasnt gotten hot at all. Its a lukewarm trip so far. Gah ive never heard such a boring truckin'.

At 11:17 we get the reprise chorus. What a dud of a truckin'. So after the truckin we get this very breif jam. It sounds very promising though. At 30 seconds Garcia starts to play some twinkling sputniks with Kreutzmann anxiously awaiting his drum solo. Billys bass drum is hitting my head like a jackhammer. Nice energy paced one right here. At 2:50 the crowd goes nuts as they know they are heading into the other one.

Garcia wastes no time in soloing. Once again this is one laid back other one. Phil is playing a really sweet descending bass part. Garcia and wier seem to now be getting into their parts. At 1:15 we a sweet boost of energy now as Weir is firing off chords at a clips pace with some rocking phil to go along with Garcia fluttering high pitched swells of noise. At 2:00 we get some good twinkle twinkle from keith as they already wind down at 2:22. At 3:11 it sounds like they already want to go into complete ambience.

Its a quiet passage that doesnt really do ne thing. Suddenly Jerry starts to play around with this wierd echoey mysterious chord he plays. This is really wierd stuff. Its just so disjointed that its barely interesting at all. At 5:14 Phillip enters back into the scene as we get some more free form playing. At 6:17 garcia does some tiger like winding up. We explode out at 6:36 for some really nice energetic playing. Keith is really MIA in this recording you can barely hear him at all. Things seem to be getting interesting now. At 7:17 Garcia keeps repeating this phrase which he likes so he plays around with it for a little while. At 7:45 he hints at a tiger but immediately. What a wierd ass jam! Its great stuff though. Mr.Lesh and Weir are providing some hot rythm support to jer. At 8:24 they keep getting more energetic and more energetic. Jerry is in control of his car right now and won't let go of it. At 10:00 Jerry noodles around for a little while with Bob Providing some really cool chords. This is a sort of funky jam if you ask me. Its got a great back beat to it. At 10:35 it almost sounds like Weir wants to do a feeling groovy. At 10:50 Garcia starts to play those creepy E72 jam chords.

At 11:30 Jerry restates the TOO theme but its a no sell. Its straight ambient playing. At 12:10 Phil bombs away. Its a pretty bomb though. We get a brief cut at 12:37 as both Garcia and Lesh are letting out pretty chords. Dreamy is an understatement.

Let Our own Light into ashes explain it to you. (LIA if you dont want me to show what you said about it on LMA you can tell me to take it off ill understand.)

There's a brief cut in the tape, and we come back to Garcia and Lesh playing stately contrapuntal lines like classical violinists. All of a sudden the waters calm and the universe opens.....it sounds a lot like the end of Lesh's bass solo in 2-15-73 when Garcia joins him....yes, it's that gorgeous.
But here Weir joins them, and they start taking it somewhere else - chords materialize, a thematic jam that's something like a cross between the Spanish Jam and Goin' Down the Road.... It builds, they start playing harder, and then Garcia starts playing slide and whips out some Allman-like lines. It only lasts about six minutes, but as far as I know it's unique; I don't recall hearing this theme in other shows. Yet it's one of those things everyone should hear, like the "Beautiful Jam" from 2-18-71.


It really is beautiful stuff. (Note: Dead list states as a mysterious jam.) Its so peaceful and relaxing. It really is a strange jam. Its something that ive never heard anywhere else before. It sounds like it could morph into the spanish jam at anytime. if anything i would call it the "TOO Spanish Jam".

But its a really unique peace and LIA summed it up perfectly. And honestly when does Jerry ever whip out a slide guitar in a TOO! At 19:30 they head out of the mystery jam sounding as pumped as ever. At 19:40 Weir bungles the fucken lyrics! Hilarious shit. Mumble mumble cowboy neil mumble mumble. Yes boys and girls even in jam songs Bobby bungles the lyrics!

At 20:46 we get some nice Cymbal work from Billy as Jerry takes in a nice high flyer of a solo. So at 21:40 we get a phil solo. Could this other one seriously get any more out there? its just the leshter by himself (Note: At 22:24 he does a really little hint of the bird song bass line.)

At 22:30 he begins the other one Bass line and starts playing off of that. Decent Phil soloing. At 23:45 he begins laying on da bombs and the High notes. His Bass sounds like a heavy metal guitar. At 24:33 he resates the theme and everyone bounces right back with him. Jerry does those standard TOO reprise guitar lines. At 25:20 jerry Really pushes down on the gas pedal as they head into a really high energy strong finish! and i mean strong! At 26:23 get the Bobby lyrics. We leave the TOO and july with the wharf rat.

Overall: Jesus what a whacky ass other one! There was no space or ambient playing to speak of. The Whole pre-verse TOO jam was extroardinary to listen to. It was seriously one fresh and awesome Other one. Only flub was the embarassing bobby lyrical flub haha.

Grade: A+

Thoughts About July: Well if their is one thing to say about the july Other ones its subdued. The first two werent very exciting at all it almost seemed slipshod and disjointed most of the time. The Last TOO of july was the keeper though. Seriously one wierd other one that ahd none of the usual TOO themes (Space, Ambient playing, Sputniks.) Thats the one i would recommend from july. Onto August!


08-12-72 Sacramento Memorial Auditorium, Sacramento, Ca. (Sat)
1: Promised, Sugaree, Me & My Uncle, Bird Song, B. T. Wind, Deal, El Paso, Tennessee Jed, Playin, Big RxR Blues, Cumberland, Stella Blue, Jack Straw, Casey Jones
2: Greatest, Ramble On, BIODTL, He's Gone> Drums> Other One> Black Peter> Other One> Truckin, Half Step, Sugar Magnolia E: Saturday Night



The first TOO of august and we start with a He's gone for the first time. This gone is now slowed down ballad Gone. Its already alot better than the first embryonic forms. The SBD is awesome though. This is the usual Jam segments of the other ones. Now they either segue from a gone or a truckin'. Everyone is hitting the harmonies pretty dam good. So at 3:34 Jerry gives us the first solo of the night. Almost sounds like Its All over now baby blue. At 4:00 he reprises the Gone melody with the guitar. (Notes: Dont you just hate when the solo of the song is just them reprising the main melody?)

Keith is playing some nice piano. At 4:40 after a really unimpressive solo, they sing the vocals again. Gones would of course get ten times better as the years went on just like any song. Of course this song was all about the mourning of Pigpen after he died then it changed to whomever they wanted it to memorialize (Bobby Sands, Len Bias, Brent after he died.)

So after the nothings gona bring him back part you can hear the crowd clapping along with them. Everyones giving out cheeseball moans in this Chorus lol. At 8:30 we get Jerries second solo. Its a nice country tinged sputnikky like solo with a great cascading Keith line. It would be only super short lived though as we head into the land of drums.

This is one energetic pounding Billy solo. Listen to him rattle off the snare drum like a machine gun! This is one awesome drum solo no lie.

Out of the Snares we get a massive phil intro. This one is already more energetic as a whole then the Lazy other ones of july. Phil is playing great with some nice high Jerry notes at one minute. Listen to Keith playing! Nice piano action beginning at 1:20. I can barely hear Bobby for some reason I dont know where he is. At 2:11 they start to really catch fire. This is solid as a rock. At 2:40 Jerry gives us some minor guitar lines with Keith playing his ass off. At 3:32 i can finally hear some Bob chords. At 3:46 it sounds like their about to explode through the roof with a energizer charged jam!

Phil is beasting it up all over this other one Philling in with some nice Hammer ons and high notes. At 5:00 they are still keeping this train moving on through with some Cool Phil and some good Garcia Lines. At 5:33 Jerry begins those Tiger like lines but again doesn't delve very far into it. At 6 minutes their still on TOO jamming but keep it up boys. Keith is playing really nice right now very inspired stuff from Keith. At 7 minutes Phillip starts up the TOO bass and Bob sings (Not flubbing up the lyrics this time!)

That was a short but sweet Pre verse TOO jam. It was a solid B for me. At 8:14 Jerry lets out a very spanish sounding Solo with that awesome Spacey Keith piano in full tuition. Let it out of the cage Jer! Phil is Tearing it up right now Hes been the MVP for the most part followed right behind jerry. Ahh! really wierd splice at 9:23. At 9:51 we head her off into spacey playing. keiths Piano is seriously tripping it out in it's own right. At 10:30 Jerry starts space sputniks. The space is moving along at a nice pace with some howling Jerry notes at 12:12. At 12:50 Billy gets up a cocaine like level of drumming! Jerry Winds up for a Tiger. At 13:30 all hell breaks loose as Jerry Winds up a proper Tiger. God dam! At 14:13 just pure pandomonium as Keith plays a hellish piano pound. Out of the tiger we get a demented Waltzy shuffle with Keith playing some hot lines now. This is a really good space jam. So at 15:50 Jerry plays some wind down notes with everyone still in a cocaine like swirl of energy. At 17:03 Billy begins a sweet Bluesy shuffle but wait a minute. no way. Black peter! holy [CENSORED] what a swirve!

Great segue too. This is the only time they did it in 72. Jerrys vocals are great with some nice heavy phil bass. Keith and Billy have a great blues shuffle going on. why couldn't they have segued into these songs more? Do they really think Bobby Mcgee is that great of a song?

At 3:18 Jerry lets out a nice Melodic guitar phrase. it sounds like steel pedal guitar. Very appropriate for this kind of song. At 3:50 we get some very pretty Keith lines. This is a hair raising jerry solo. They also only played Peter 6 times in 72. At 5:30 we get a nice boost of energy as keith does some great piano with Jerry talks about the sun going up.

At 8:40 we get another great boost of energy as Garcia begins the second solo. This is one is sweet and bluesy. itd be breif though as they head straight back into the other one.

Jerry lets out the flutters as they begin to get back into the swing of things. This is a sweet melodic theme jam. keith is playing some more great piano lines. Holy energy! 1:26 they kick into the tenth gear. Finally some X factoring is going on! this is one vicious other one jam. Jerry is one fire right now along with keith providing some awesome support. At 2:30 we head back into the land of Bob vocals. I dont know if you can call it a segue or not but they head right into truckin'.

Ovreall: This other one had some serious energy with the second part. The first parts highlight was the spacey tiger explosion jam. That was hot Shit. This TOO was pretty dam good if you ask me.

Grade: B+


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I'm surprised you quoted me for 7-25-72, I was looking forward to seeing it in your words! But that's fine.

I'd agree the July Other Ones are (compared to the rest of '72) not too exciting. On 7-16, I recall the NFA being more exciting....and going into Looks Like Rain is just about the worst possible segue choice! (Well, the Other One>Black Peter coming up on 8/12 is pretty weird, too.)
As far as the 7-25-72 Other One, I'd probably rate that little jam an A+ and the rest of the Other One maybe a B. It is hilarious that Weir can't remember the verse! (And note how little jamming there is after the verse...)

Next month though, those Berkeley Other Ones are when the jams start getting REALLY fierce and you have to say "whoa...."
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well you summed up that jam perfectly dawg. It was just fucken awesome though and pretty. I didnt know everyone looks forward to what i have say i feel like i belong to the pub now! Very Happy

L.L. rain BIODTL and Bobby mcgee. The worst songs they have ever segued into Laughing
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I have decided that to keep these reviews fresh and such, I am taking a short hiatus from the project. Im srry for it but i need a break from it. Im not being burnt out on TOOs, but i want to keeep these reviews fresh. So I have decided that i will resume in 2 weeks. Sorry guys. The TOO project still lives tho!
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Is anyone having problems viewing this? Jesse told me he was, but I have tried it on two computers with to internet browsers and have no problem seeing it...
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Koch it also happened on Dogstarz dark star project. i went over there and it was basicly pitch black just like mine.

Edit: The dark star project is fine for me now. but my TOO thread still is like this. its so wierd.
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jessewood34 wrote:
Koch it also happened on Dogstarz dark star project. i went over there and it was basicly pitch black just like mine.

Edit: The dark star project is fine for me now. but my TOO thread still is like this. its so wierd.

I think it is a problem with your computer dude, I am seeing both fine.

I recommend clearing out your cookies, internet history, etc. Then try it.
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okay i cleared all history and cookies and still nothing Confused
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okay i cleared all history and cookies and still nothing Confused


Try using Chrome or another browser. I had that problem for about a day a while back with the Dark Star project.
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okay this will seriously sound stupid lol. but what do you mean another browser or chrome?

edit: now i know what a browser is! Laughing
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okay guys the all black thing is still on. should i just download chrome?
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Dude, you might as well... it is something with your computer.... changing the browser may help, but it is probably overkill... but that being said, I don't really know what else to tell you.
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You can also reinstall Firefox. Which is also a bit over kill but it might work.
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if thats the case i might have to do it. Its just so odd though every other thread works just fine except for this one. maybe the forum gods hate me Laughing
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finally no more blackout!
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08-20-72 San Jose Civic Auditorium, San Jose, Ca. (Sun)
1: Bertha, Me & My Uncle, Sugaree, BIODTL, Bird Song, Jack Straw, FOTD, B. T. Wind, Cumberland, El Paso, Loser, Playin
2: Promised, B. E. Women, Bobby McGee, Truckin> Drums> Other One> Stella Blue, Sugar Magnolia, Casey Jones> Saturday Night E: Uncle John
last "FOTD": 12-26-70 [125]


I'm back with the other one project! Sorry for the delay and such. Its great to be back reviewing TOOs. So anyways lets listen to the only time the dead ever played the San Jose Civic Auditorium (Note: Its very strange to think at this point FOTD was not played for 2 years!)

I am listening to the Miller SBD for this one. At 5 minutes Bobby goes ape [CENSORED] with the get back truck ons as we launch into the Jam. Keith is providing nice supple support following Jerry very nicely. Jerry is wasting no time in establishing a nice solo to build around. At 6:04 the energy is jacked up with a rocking Jerry line with Boogie Woogie Keith. Its all keith and jerry on this sweet truckin jam. At 7:20 we get a wind down truckin jam. Jerry lets out a nice lazy dog solo as were taking things at a stoners pace now. Its a sweet sultry truckin' fore sure.

This is actually the best part of this whole jam. At 8:20 Phil provides a nice throbbing bass line for everyone to play upon and they do it with expertise. At 9:09 Jerry lets out an awesome creepy note. This is one long Trucking jam with subdued energy. At 10:20 phil lets out a bomb as we leave truckin for the land of drums. (No reprise chorus for tonight!)

Standard drum solo. Not much to say

Usually these things only last for about two minutes but billy decides to drum away for an extra minute. So we enter our main portion. Phil lets out an awesome rumbling intro bass line as Jerry lets out spine tingling guitar squeals. The energy is really in the right place. As jerry lets out an impressive solo some hot stuff in the beginning for sure. At 1:50 they put the energy through the roof as Jerry lets out a dizzying spider web of notes. Go Jer!

Phil is on his A game as well. At 2:20 we wind her down for good old fashion noodles. At 3:15 we return to some impressive other one jamming. Jerry and phil are killing me here. Dam! At 3:50 Jerry leaves as Phil takes a solo spot with some cool keith in the background. Its a trio led dead! At 4:40 Jerry returns with some nice fluttery guitar lines. This is one long Other one jam They have still been playing around with the theme for 5 minutes! Its nice stuff though so how can you complain. At 5:30 jerry gets downright nasty with some really vicious guitar parts. The trains kept a rollin' for sure.

At 6:09 Keith turns on the strange Wah Wah piano. Its now a quiet section with some pretty keith twinkles. At 7:10 Billy goes for a good drum groove as we get an off kilter jam. At 7:30 Phil leaves as Jerry forges right ahead with some spacey guitar parts. Its all Keith Jerry and Billy. Keiths piano now has officialy hit white noise territory here. The Jam sounds like it can hit a space at any time now. At 9:10 brings out the wah pedal for some tiger like windups. At 10:00 Jerry builds up to a frenzy as Phil does those weird bass sounds. At 10:15 Keith lends out a massive piano pound as Jerry juts go completely ape [CENSORED] with the guitar. Man what a sight to see this happening! At 10:44 Jerry goes mega fast on the tiger as Keith arpeggios along with him. Its all X Factor chaos now.

At 11:30 the melt down subsides with some nice lovely keith piano playing. Sounds like bill evans playing a ballad. Phil is doing those bass scrapes at 12:01 as we are still implanted deep into spacey playing. At 12:30 we get another melt down of massive porportions but settle it down once again. It sounds like they are trying to get a hold of something. At 13:05 keith lets out a great cascade of notes.

At 13:20 we are in noodle country now as no one has a clue where to go next. Well what do they do? Go into a keith solo of course! Awesome stuff. This gives keith a nice showing of his jazz roots as it does billy. Phils bass is getting down right funky at times as keith gives a nice solo.

At 15:40 Jerry reenters. This is one hell of a Jazz jam. X factor all the way. At 16:20 Keith turns on his effect again as he does weird glissandos that sound like rushing water. At 17:12 we get a very happy sounding jam. As jerry shows off his Country ho down licks for the people. At 18:00 i swear it sounds like for what its worth! At 18:20 after that awesome jam sequence they head it all back home for the Other one return.

At 19:15 Jerry Does the standard Other One Reprise solo as Bobby sings the second verse of all things at 19:40. So after 20 minutes we head right into stella blue.

Overall: Awesome Other One. The jam in the middle was easily the best part with a sweet Keith solo as well as a hot jerry Guitar solo at the end. The only disapointment was that there was no Jamming after the verses. Minor quibbles aside, Check out this other one!

Grade: A+


08-22-72 Berkeley Community Theatre, Berkeley, Ca. (Tue)
1: Bertha, Greatest, Loser, B. T. Wind, Bird Song, BIODTL, Tennessee Jed, Me & My Uncle, FOTD, Playin, He's Gone, Promised
2: B. E. Women, Mexicali, Truckin> Drums> Other One> Stella Blue, El Paso, Ramble On, NFA> GDTRFB> Hey Bo Diddley> NFA



So here we go the First other one of august that really stretches out (these berkley shows are all killer stuff btw.) So we begin with a high energy truckin (Note: For some reason the SBD sounds very distant.) But ne ways Jerry digs deep and dirty for the first truckin solo. The Whole band sounds on fire. Keith in particular is playing some great saloon style piano with Phil and Billy tearing the roof off the rythm section.

This truckin jam is pretty smoking with Jerry tearing her up. At 7:40 they cool it down a bit as Bob plays a pretty cool rythm line as Jerry is playing some stringy lines. This is a prime 72 Truckin for sure! At 9 minutes Jerry lets out some whale calls. No truckin chorus reprise this time. As in all customary Other one segues we get a drum solo. Billy Is hammering away at the skins tonight.

So after a 2 minute drum break we head straight into a big phil bass intro. The energy seems to be a little lacking and Jerry is seriously buried in this mix. But the energy has come back and the Groove is set perfectly jerry is now on fire! At 1:20 he lets out some seriously spine chilling lines. Phil is really rocking the house down. The whole band is just on right now at this point. X factor for sure. At 2:30 they go away from the land of other one jamming with some nice Keith and Jerry call and responses. At 3:25 Jerry begins a great spider web of guitar notes as the band is totally egging him on. Rock improvisation at its finest indeed. At 4:00 Jerry plays some very eleven like lines as we head back into a quasi other one jam. At 5:04 Keith turns on the odd ball piano tone as Jerry begins some dissonant playing.

Phils Bass sounds like an upright bass very cool indeed. At 5:50 billy begins a sweet as hell drum groove as everyone is building a part around it. [CENSORED] this is just awesome. At 6:40 Phil begins a cool Jazz bass line as we totally head into a cool ass groove. The band right now is playing lights out for sure no dullness here at all. At 7:24 Jerry does some inspiring noodles as we enter into a very subdued pastoral passage. At 7:55 jerry begins to call out to the whales. If its creepy dead you want Creepy dead you will get! Its a pastoral kind of creepy though. I like it alot.

Bobby is playing some very pretty guitar lines. The spaces have definately improved each time and this one hits the spot just fine. at 9:50 Bob turns on the phaser ( My favorite effects pedal ever!) while Billy is playing a tribal drum beat. at 10:23 Jerry hints at a sputnik but just says [CENSORED] it. Its a very odd space indeed. Its like ambience in a way. At 10:53 Keith begins to play some fast licks. Holy [CENSORED] out of space dam. You can hear the crowd going nuts. Its seriously awesome its a slow Other one Jazz reprise jam! This is incredible. Will Bob scat for us? lol.

At 12:15 this groove just won't stop. Its such an impressive jam that it knocked me off my feet when i first heard it. Jerry soloing is meaty and crisp at 13:20 we get a big energy boost as pandomonium hits everywhere. Keith is pounding out the chords as he turns on the Spacey piano sound once more. At 14:20 Bob sings the first verse at a break neck pace.

So at 15:20 we get a Billy and Phil duet. not the ideal thing i would want after a hot hot pre verse jam but at least its focused and not a total train wreck. At 16:23 Phil lets out bombs as its basicly him just doing the other bass line with some variation. At 17:15 We leave phil to solo by himself. Good lord this one dull solo. Jaco he is not (And by that i mean hes not too good at solo bass spotlights!) So after that bass solo at 18:35 everyone comes roaring back as they jam the hell out of the theme.

This is just so intense! The viciousness in this is so exhilirating. At 20:00 jerry breaks off the theme as we head into a very dissonant sounding jam. At 21:00 its just complete spacey chaos. Sheesh the energy coming from Jerry is just overpowering! Keith Is apreggiating like a regular yngwie malmsteen. At 22:33 Jerry hints at a tiger but doesn't go through as it now sounds like we are spiraling down into another dimension. At 24 minutes the space is still going strong as It is just so jacked up on energy as Jerry turns on the wah at 24:30 As billy pounds the hell of out the drums.

At 24:50 we go into a happy sounding jam. Wow! Very good swerve. Bob is playing some very pretty guitar parts as Jerry comes back into the fold to keep it very spacey. Phil is matching Jerry in terms of the speed department. At 27:00 Phil gets down a great bass pattern as everyone is now fluttering away. This TOO has been all X factor baby a moment not wasted at all. At 28:00 Jerry begins the other one reprise. For some odd reason Jerry does not play at a solo at all (Broken String?) But Any ways at 29 minutes bob sings the second verse as they head themselves right into Stella Blue.

Overall: Just wow. I am speechless. That other one was seriously off the charts. The jams were all fantastic and nothing got really disjointed except for the sucky lesh solo. This was an other one for the ages and Its def now in my top ten list for favorite other ones.

Grade: A+


08-25-72 Berkeley Community Theatre, Berkeley, Ca. (Fri)
1: Cold Rain, B. T. Wind, He's Gone, BIODTL, Loser, El Paso, Black Peter, Jack Straw, FOTD, Promised, Bird Song, Playin, Bertha
2: Truckin> Other One
second set incomplete


Sadly, the second set tape runs out! (Note: Hopefully one of these days they will release all these epic shows Ala Winterland 73') So here we go the august show before the veneta show. So at 5:12 we begin the Truckin' Jam as always. Great Charlie Miller Remaster here everyone is crystal clear. Bobby is playing some great chords while is holding down the bottom. Jerry is playing ok nothing lights out yet. This really ain't that much of a special Truckin Decent, But now stand out material I like what bob is playing though. At 7:02 Jerry gets a little twangy as the jam keeps mulling along at a snails pace. At 8:00 Garcia does a really cool guitar riff as a great boogie starts up! Finally something interesting is happening. Keith is playing some great piano now with Bobby and Phil egging Jerry on. Jerry is now getting pretty red hot at 9 minutes but still hasn't broken through the stratosphere.

Ugh this is a very not so good truckin' at all. The energy seems to be really lacking. At 10:20 Keith turns on the watery piano effect (havent heard him use that in a truckin' yet!). Finally at 11:29 we get some well needed energy as keith plays some cool spacey parts. The truckin' is now pretty good! So at 13 minutes we get a phil Lesh Bass Solo. Its quasi bird song like. At least its focused. (Note: You can hear the audience in the background clapping along.)

At 14:30 Phil is still ambling on. At 14:50 he really does the bird song melody it may just be me but i heard it haha. So finally We get the intro. And what an intro! Its like getting hit in the balls its powerful.

Jerry is already tearing off a great solo. He sounds inspired now. (Must have taken some weed backstage when lesh was soloing.) It definately is at the right levels for an other one jam. X factoring for sure. Keith keeps playing this pretty cool piano line and just layers onto it! Everyone is in tip top shape no complaints at all. Keith has been really impressing me so far. At 3:00 Bob is doing some great rythm playing while Billy probably pissed that he didn't get a drum solo is just whamming away on the skins. At 3:30 Jerry begins another vicious solo that could knock out mike tyson. Its that good. At 4:30 they swerve off into another jam but this one is still packed to the brim with intensity and energy. At 5:12 Billy is doing this really cool drum beat as they settle it down for a quiet jam. At 5:40 Jerry is playing this very cool guitar line as Phil begins the really cool jazz bass line. This jam sounds like it can go anywhere it wants. At 6:20 they return to the other one theme. At 6:33 Bob starts the vocals up. Very short but amazing pre verse jam. At 7:22 Jerry plays a hair rasing solo. Hes just playing one note at a time but it sounds incredible! At 8:12 phil starts a funky little bass line again but no body sells it as we head prematurely into spacey playing. But billy is anchoring it right along so it doesnt become a train wreck. At 9:30 Jerry noodles on as everyone trys to find something they really like.

At 10:00 keith repeats what jerry is doing. Its now starting to get mega spacey. But at 11:00 Billy begins a great great drum beat as everyone decides to build around that. It sounds like something elvin jones would do. This is primo Keith territory. At 12:00 they have stuck onto it and it sounds totally excellent. Jazz from hell! At 12:22 Jerry begins a weird solo as the jam just keeps getting hotter. At 13:07 it sounds like Jerry is winding up for a tiger! At 13:38 Keith begins some demented chords as everyone follows around it. Its almost playful in a way. At 14:30 Its noodle country! Its a very dissonant jam though. At least they dropped those extremely long stretches of space after E72. At 15:30 something really neat begins to get formed. I actually like this dissonant jam alot its pretty dam awesome. At 16:06 Jerry begins to turn the engines on as he begins a very cool solo anndd....the tape runs out! Mad

Overall: Man If only the complete second set would turn up. That was a high flying great other one. It wasn't as good as 8/22, but it was dam near close. The pre verse jam was brimming with energy.

Grade: A+

Thoughts On August: Well another month of TOOs has wrapped up once more and here is my thoughts on August. The first two other ones of august were compact short fire balls that were bursting at the seams with energy. 8/20 although short, was an amazing other one. By the end, You can tell they are stretching them out again but these ones aren't aimless at all. Usually when they stretched out an other one in the beginning of 72, they could easily become very boring with a long stretch of space. But now spaces are short compact and intense. Check out the august other ones they are all pretty dam impressive.

Recommend from August : 8/20, 8/22

Onto September!


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Nice one. I heard this on the Sirius Dead channel at a friend's house the other night and was thoroughly blown way. The last 10 min or so are insane!
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the spacey tiger jam is intense.
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8/22 added.
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You can tell something hit the Dead right in the middle of August that year - more rehearsals maybe, or a heat wave or something.... That week of Aug 20-27 is something else. I seem to remember the Playing in the Band jams taking another leap that week, too.
Now that I think of it, isn't that when Bear rejoined them? Can't remember if he came back in July or August...
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Hey Jessee, what's happened to this poor thread? No posts since June Sad . I keep waiting for the review of 9/17/72....

Since that was 38 years ago today, I thought you might need some inspiration as a reminder!
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I know the feeling, it happened to me during the Sep 72 project!
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i promise a review tomorow. i promise promise!
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09-03-72 Folsom Field, University of Colorado, Boulder, Co. (Sun)
1: Promised, Sugaree, Me & My Uncle, Tennessee Jed, B. T. Wind, Bird Song, BIODTL, Half Step, Playin, Casey Jones
2: Bertha, El Paso, B. E. Women, Mexicali, China Cat> I Know You Rider, Truckin, Loser, He's Gone> Other One> Wharf Rat, Johnny B. Goode
3: Cold Rain, Sugar Magnolia, Deal, Jack Straw, Ramble On, Rockin Pneumonia, NFA> GDTRFB> NFA


Notes: Sorry for the long hiatus fellows. I fell out of listening to the dead for a while but now its time for the other one project to get back on hold!

So now we roll onto the vaunted month of september. The sets keep getting longer and the jams get more intense. But first we might as well start with a mellow hes gone. (Note: This jam sequence was released on DP 36 so that is what im listening to.)

This gone has a great tempo. Not too fast or too slow. Just right. Jerrys vocals are on as well. Bobs harmonies are decent as well. Bobs rythm playing is definately excellent as hes playing everything just right. Phil isnt as up front as i would like him to be but you can still hear his monster bass. At 3:21 the gone starts to get some energetic moments as billy whams away at the cymbals elevating the music just a knotch above. So at 3:55 we get jerrys first solo. Its a tasty one too! His tone is raunchy and scuzzy. We can finally hear keith playing some great accompaniment as jerry rips into a sweet spot solo.

At 5:00 we get the "going where the wind dont blow so strange" line. Everyone is singing pretty dam great right now. Yes even donna! At 5:56 Jerry gives into it all when he sings nothing left to do but smile smile. Great! So at 7:20 we get the "Nothings gona bring him back" harmonies. Keith plays a sweet piano line at 7:37 as everything is winding down. This is the problem that plauged the Gones of 72. They didnt feature enough jamming. But at 9:01 Jerry goes off into a sweet country inspired solo as Bobby responds to Jers great lines. Some very tasty lines are played by everyone as Billy K whams a great fill at 9:50. At 10:20 you can hear the hints of the other one coming into fruition.

Hear we go though. The energy is jacked up to a billion Watts! Jerry lets out some howling feedback as it sounds like the universe is going into his guitar! X factor all the way for those fucking awesome introduction. At 53 seconds Jerry stops the feedback and hits the juggular as Billy K rolls away with the cymbals and Keith pounds on the chords like hes jerry lee lewis. Great balls of el fuego! Bobby is slashing and burning down the house as phil ripples underneath with stellar bass work. At 1:53 they already cool it down a little bit. But its still fiery hot. Phil is now pretty audidle and hes kicking some major. Oh hell everyone is kicking major ass. At 2:33 Keith plays some spooky piano that sounds like a horde of bees is buzzing around the band.

At 3:13 the TOO intro jam is still going strong. Jerry is picking all the right spots as Bob provides him great support. This possibly the hottest intro jam next to 4/26 its just a steaming pile of hot volcanic ash. They just wont let go of your balls. At 5:00 Bob plays some awesome rythmic work as Jerry takes the structure inside out and we head into a fast jam with stellar cymbal work by Bill. At 6:30 they have reached the stratosphere. The whole thing is just plowing along like a train. At 7 minutes long the TOO theme jam is still going hot! Usually these things last for only 3 minutes but this one is still going along. So at 8 minutes we finally head into a great exotic sounding jam.

It it has a great latin flavor with Phil playing a clementine like riff. At 8:38 Billy gives it some energy. As if this TOO didnt have enough energy! No noodles for jerry. This is all about attack and release. At 9:30 we head into a pastoral like jam. The instruments are all flying around as we settle into a sweet billy groove. Listen to how everyone responds to bills fills! At 10:08 we get some serious funk attitude from the players. At 11 minutes they go into another jam. That sounds a little bit like the spaniard jam. Jerry plays some gorgeous lines. This other one is seriously on the money. If you want to hear one where everyone is ON. this could be it.

At 11:40 Jerry plays some high notes with phil phunking it down. At 12:19 for some odd reason they give billy a drum solo! But hold on. Its phil and billy! At 12:40 mister lesh is soloing along as Bill tries to give him some great drums. At 13:32 they roar back into TOO! This would be called the proper other one introduction. Great turn around boys. Lava is just pouring out of this jam because its so fiery hot.

At 14:48 we finally get the vocals. That jam blew my brains to pits and peaces. The energy is so high intact that Bob sounds inspired. So at 15:31 we get some deep and dark bombs from phil as Jerry winds it down for some creepyness. At 16:00 its definately very pastoral very creepy. Keith has that odd piano tone on. So i am going to suppose its a space. At 16:47 keith is on fire rythmically. Billy stays in which is always a good sign (I do not care much for the long noodling sections without him.)

At 17:38 Jerry sounds like hes climbing a stairs with his guitar! bobby is fanning away like hes jerry playing a LIG! At 18:15 we get a sweet fast jam with Jerry putting layer of layer on noodles across the jelly. At 19:20 jerry plays some horror movie like licks as the bubbling cauldron keeps truckin' on. Will this jam ever get boring? Nope!

At 20:02 bob and Jer both play some sweet as flamenco licks. Bobby has been all over this one. At 21 minutes this jam is still going hot! No spaciness at all just jerry dropping fire balls all over folsom field. At 21:42 we get some more billy K funk as jerry Turns on the Wah pedal for some psychotic madness. Keith is playing some sweet lines in the background. At 23:09 it sounds like its going to the breaking point! with some awesome jerry and Bob! They are on cloud 9 right now (and so am i).

At 24:43 i swear it almost like a main ten jam! Its way chill though. At 24:23 Jerry noodles away as everyone follows up with his pace. It sounds like everything is melting away into a spiral. At 25:15 jerry gets mad demented with his guitar. It sounds like it can go into space at any second and it does. at 25:39 jerry is winding up for a tiger.

What other way would you want a hot as hell jam to be capped off anyways? By an intense fucking Tiger! At 26:22 jerry is playing blazing fast licks as the whole thing is going into chaos. At 26:47 they return to the main theme for the final stretch home. At 27:21 Bob sends out great rythmic chords as jerry takes in one final hot solo. This climax is humoungous. At 28:07 we return to the vocals as the other one melts down into wharf rat.

Comments: Holy shit. That a ten out of ten for other ones. It was everything i love in an other one. Huge energy. Awesome jams. Tiger melt downs. Epic scale. This is one is def on my favorites now. Its right up there with 4/26. If you have not heard this one before. Then holy [CENSORED] do it as quick as possible!

Overall: A++


09-09-72 Hollywood Palladium, Hollywood, Ca. (Sat)
1: Promised, Sugaree, Me & My Uncle, Bird Song, B. T. Wind, Tennessee Jed, Mexicali, Deal, Playin, Loser, Johnny B. Goode
2: China Cat> I Know You Rider, FOTD, Jack Straw, He's Gone> Truckin> Drums> Other One, Stella Blue, El Paso, Casey Jones, Sugar Magnolia E: Saturday Night

Notes: Look at that jam sequence! This is one wicked long other one clocking in at 35 minutes!

So im listening to the miller remaster for this show. Lets begin our journey with the calm restraints of he's gone. Everyones levels are nice and everything is crystal clear. At 40 minutes an awful screeching noise comes blaring out! Another middle paced gone. Still retaining some of the pep of the early E72 versions but getting more dirge like. Right now theres nothing really to report. Its all your standard verses yada yada yada.

Jerry is singing great though pouring his heart into everything. So at 3:54 we get the standard first solo from Jerry. At 4:18 he sings the melody line with some nice stinging high notes. At 4:40 keith lets out some great plinking piano as Phils bass is sticky like carmel. So at 5 minutes we get the vocals again. yawn.. Rolling Eyes

At least its a great tune. So at 6:50 the song is still rolling down the track at a steady pace. At 7:15 we get the nothings gona bring him back chorus. Of course they could be using this time to jam!

But keith is playing some great soft rock piano lines. At 7:55 we get the claps from the crowd as Jerry plays those neat arpeggio lines. At 9 minutes they go into super slow mo mode as Jerry plays some slip shod guitar lines.

Phil is playing nicely as is Bob. So at 9:45 jerry finally begins a sweet country solo as he plays those sweet arpeggios again. At 10:15 the gone jam is really starting to pick up some steam as Garcia is hitting the juggular so instead of just ending the song they go into truckin!

From the calm refrains of He's gone comes a barrel house truckin'! The pace is great Weirs singing great and Jerry is letting out those great lines between the verses. Billy is drumming great and this Truckin is strong and muscular!

At 3:46 Jerry is playing some sweet ass lines behind Mister Weirs singing. Bobs scream is god awfully annoying. At 5 minutes Jerry breaks through and the truckin energy is through the roof! Jerry just pushed this truckin through the stratosphere and is taking no prisoners. Woot go Jerry. Bobby is slashing and burning as Jerry is laying down a thick hot solo! Holy X factor batman!

At 7 minutes the jam is still going super strong. Dam this is a fiery hot truckin. El Feugo! At 8:05 the jam gets loose as they try to explore every corner of the Truckin. Its super sweet might as well call it a quasi truckin space!

Keith is playing some sweet descending lines. At 9:17 they head into a sweet nobodys fault jam! But we suddenly switch a pretty dam good AUD. Jerry is playing some hot twinkling lines. This is the truckin thats been just been pushing and pushing until it fries everyones mind. Now the board is back. At 10:22 Jerry plays more hot notes as keiths piano sounds like a swarm of buzzing bees. At minutes Jerry is playing some stringy lines as the jam heads into darker territory.

It sounds like a quasi bird song the way Bill is playing. At 11:50 we get the truckin reprise chorus. A plus truckin jam all the fucking way. It was long and deep.

So after that the energy just shoots up like heroin as the thing goes into maximum overdrive! At 13:10 the whole things get seriously slowed down as the crowd goes nuts. Jerrys guitar is howling around as it turns into a blues shuffle!

This jam is fast and furious. Energy is high on cocaine. So bamo we get a billy drum solo. Fast and Furious! Billy the madman has come out to play today. At 2:08 it sounds like bill is knocking on wood. But now is the time for what this project is all about. The Other One!

Huge phil intro! Jerry is playing nimbly along as everyone is trying to keep the levels super high. Bob is playing off his rocker as Jerry finally finds a spot to lay out and solo. At 1:01 the energy is subdued as Bob slashes and phil fills in. Mister Garcias lines are almost dizzying to listen to. Hes playing fast and furious now! hot hot. At 1:55 we get a huge boost of Garcia high notes as everyone follows around him and starts just rocking the [CENSORED] out.

After a sluggish stuff the other one is now molten hot. At 3 minutes the dead settle down and slow the other one down. Keith plays some sweet disjointed lines as Jerry rises above and slows down. Stringy lines come out as Bob and Phil set up a foundation for Jer to solo off of.

This is a sweet slow down jam. But just like that they roar right back into the other one theme! This is one Moody TOO. Jumping from slow to fast in a heartbeat. But its great! Phil is on fire right now as Jerry lets out mini climaxes as billy Whams away. So at 5:23 they once again slow down the ship as Billy K plays a jungle groove as everyone noodles away. At 6:13 the dead turn to a fucking great Blues/Jazz groove as the whole thing turns into a dreamscape for beauty.

Keith turns on the warbly piano as everyone plays beautiful lines. Its like your right in a middle of a dream and this other one is the soundtrack. At 7:40 they pick up steam again as this sweet little jam turns into a cooker. At 8:18 everyone turns the jam into this flamenco like latin groove! wowza. Unlike the last TOO i reviewed this one is going in all sorts of directions and minature jams.

Its getting really funky and deep. At 10 minutes it sounds like they want to go into space. The whole thing is turning into a spacey chasm as Billy pounds on the drums. Gosh Garcias hands must be burning the poor fret board. Everyone is reaching nirvana at 11 minutes as they go back into the TOO theme. Fucking brilliant.

At 11:40 Weir sings lyrics. At 12:28 no bombs sadly after the verse. We get some steamy creepy lines from Jerry though. At 12:54 Phil lets out a bomb as the whole thing turns into an exotic chasm. Spooky.

At 13:40 Keiths piano sounds like its going to devour someone. So we have no entered the wonderful of space. Billy is drumming deep off in the background as Free time comes into fruition.

The whole space sounds very egyptian in tone as Jerry begins to fan. At 17 minutes it sounds a jam is beginning to materialize as Jerry begins to noodle and Keith charges right along as Bobby is plinking away. This space just is not going any where at all. At 18:18 Jerry begins a tiger windup! As Keith plays some odd classical inspired lines as everyone drops out except Keith bob and Jer. Its like a E72 space!

It just keeps going on and on. Just like a E72 space. Ugh. At 20:55 Jerry begins another tiger windup but it was a swerve. At 21:40 he begins a proper tiger wind up but then again does not just finish. This is so boring if i was in the crowd i would probably fall asleep! At 24 minutes what the hell? This is new. Holy snap.

A very latin flavored jam! it sounds so smooth and cool. Almost like something Chick corea would create. Keith is playing some beautiful piano. Listen to how much space there is! It almost sounds like that mystery jam from the last july show. Its mysterious and very airy. At 26:30 Keith gets his own piano solo. Its very staccato in the way hes playing. No sign of Jerry yet. This jam is X factor chill. Very inspired playing from all of the members. Except jerry where the hell is he!

So finally at 29 minutes Jerry noodles his back onto the stage (note:Broken string maybe?)

This cool jam is still going along great almost morphing into a country like jam the way Jer is playing. Bob is playing some way cool chords. So finally at 30 minutes we return to the main theme. At 31 minutes Phil bombs us into the big climax finisher. Jerry is tearing the roof off of the sucker. Probably to make up for him not being in the final jam for so long! At 32 minutes we get the standard verses. So what ballad do you think they will segue into? well none. Cuz this Other one just stops! A rarity for sure. I wonder how many times it happened?

Overall: The truckin was a hot ride as well as the first half of the other one. To me it lost momentum with that long 8 minute space. The jam at the end was alright but missing jerry for most of it.

Grade: B+


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Good to see you're back in the saddle Jesse!
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everyone needs to listen to this other one. and koch would agree with me that its an insane TOO!
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jessewood34 wrote:
everyone needs to listen to this other one. and koch would agree with me that its an insane TOO!

Indeed!
AND, you are mostly done with the project now. Good work dude!
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So what are the 5 best of 72?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I have to say, I'm proud of Jessie, wherever he may be now.
He got through most of the year, on a seriously large project.

Lots of good review here.

Thanks.
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