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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:50 am    Post subject: Too Rolling Stoned !! Reply with quote

Found this long lost Stones movie from another board. This is movie called Ladies and Gentlemen: The Rolling Stones. Recorded during the 72 American Tour it shows the Stones really working the room before the fireworks and props. This is the Stones at their peak . For all you folks who are snowed into today, roll one and drink some whiskey. Enjoy!

part one
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I grabbed this of another board, credit goes to someone named froggylegs, so big thanks to him.

This is also in vob>mp4 format so you may need a program to open it. My Zune software opened and played it.

Brown Sugar
Bitch
Gimme Shelter
Dead Flowers
Happy
Tumbling Dice
Love in Vain
Sweet Virginia
You Can't Always Get What You Want
All Down the Line
Midnight Rambler
Bye Bye Johnny
Rip This Joint
Jumping Jack Flash
Street Fighting Man

Mick Jagger - vocals, harmonica
Keith Richards - guitars, vocals
Mick Taylor - guitars
Bill Wyman - bass guitar
Charlie Watts - drums
Nicky Hopkins - piano
Bobby Keys - saxophone
Jim Price - horns
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is the movie thats mixed in quadrophonic sound right?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love this period. Mick Taylor really took them to another level. Shame he left. Thanks for the link.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great movie. Have you ever seen "Cocksucker Blues"? It's the all access, no holds barred movie of that tour filmed by Robert Frank, who did the artwork for Exile.
Not great quality, some of it is incomprehensible, but there are priceless scenes of Keith nodding out, trying to order room service. Groupies fixing people.
The Stones at their most debauched.
a few samples:
nodding out
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jessewood34 wrote:
this is the movie thats mixed in quadrophonic sound right?


Yes this is the one, however I think for the real quad effect you needed to be in the theater. The sound is good on this but not real loud.


Dude, Cocksucker Blues is great. That is if you don't have any daughters who might happend to have been anywhere near the Stones Tour.


The real good stuff is the last half hour where they really start rocking out. You can see how intense all of the band members get as they whip the crowd into a frenzy.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been waiting and salivating for this one :

"The Rolling Stones' classic album Exile on Main Street is to be re-released with an additional 10 never-before-heard tracks. Regarded as one of the greatest albums in rock 'n' roll history and one of the most defining of the Stones' catalogue, Exile will be available May 17, 2010 in the U.K. and May 18, 2010 in the US.

Upon its release more than three decades ago, Exile on Main Street innovatively wove varying musical genres, instruments and even artists into a compelling rhythmic masterpiece. This new compilation features 10 tracks originally recorded during the Exile era and only recently discovered while working on the reissue project. The unearthed tracks, which include such titles as "Plundered My Soul," "Dancing in the Light," "Following the River" and "Pass The Wine" have undergone a unique evolution, while staying true to the essence of the 1972 album. Alternate versions of "Soul Survivor" and "Loving Cup" are also a part of the Exile bonus materials.

As a complement to the release of Exile on Main Street, a documentary, "Stones in Exile," has just been completed for fans to view on US Network television and through BBC Worldwide internationally. The documentary features rare, never-before-seen archival film, photos and interviews as well as new conversations with the band and the artists they influence. Produced by Oscar-winning filmmaker John Battsek and directed by Stephen Kijak, who is known for award-winning work on Cinemania and Scott Walker: 30 Century Man, "Stones in Exile" offers an uncommon glimpse into the lives of the band as they created one of the greatest albums of all time."

This is by far my favorite Stones album and period of time of the Stones. I'm excited about the ' New' old tracks but there is some contoversy here and a point I wanted to make earlier about these re-releases.

Seems like Mick and Keef went back in the studio and not only cleaned up these long lost cuts, but they went ahead and dubbed new sounds onto the 'old' tracks. So does this really qualify as a long lost classic or are these in fact NEW Stones tunes? Interesting points can be made for both sides.

Personally I like the filthy, gritty feeling of the Exile album so a big part of me is not happy that all these years later, the tracks have been messed with. On the other hand as artists, they have a right to do what they want with their art, and if they feel the need to add some stuff to old recordings, that's their perogative.

I won't even go into how much overdubbing was done to their live albums( Love You Live's vocals were practically all overdubbed in the studio). I mean the Dead did it on Europe 72 and practically every major live album by any major artists has had some work done to it. Thoughts?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah! This is very exciting news. Completely agree this is their finest album. Have you read the book about the sessions that came out a couple of yrs ago? I think it's called Lost in Exile...I'll have to check. As far as Mick and Keith re-tooling some old tracks, I think it's safe to say that the nasty, gritty feel will remain. Thanks for the heads up!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Happy to share any of my Stones with folks here....
My partial list:

AUDIO:

The Lost Sessions Vol. 1&2
Ultra Rare Trax Vol. 3,4,5,
Unsurpassed Masters Vol. 1-6
The Black Box Vol. 1-4
Complete BBC
BBC Sessions 1963-1965
Cocksucker Blues
Exile On Main Street Outtakes
Dance - Emotional Rescue Sessions
Beggar’s Breakfast
Alternate Sticky Fingers
The Chess Sessions
Clean Cuts Vol. 1 & 2
Could You Walk On Water
Through The Vaults Darkly
Get Your Ya-Ya’s Out Acetate
Acetates
Gorgeous Girls Redux
Paris, France 4-18-65
Shindig! 5-26-65
Berlin, Germany 9-15-65
Accidents Will Happen 1966-1979
Melbourne, Australia 2-24-66
Paris, France 3-29-66
Honolulu, HI 6-28-66
Vienna, Austria 4-2-67
Zurich, Switzerland 4-14-67
Paris, France 5-11-67
Unplugged Europe 1968-1973
Tour Rehearsals 1969-2005
London, England 7-5-69
Oakland, CA 11-9-69
San Diego, CA 11-10-69
Detroit, MI 11-24-69
Frankfurt, Germany 10-5-70
Essen, Germany 10-7-70
Coventry, England 3-6-71
Leeds, England 3-13-71
Unreleased Decca Live Album 1972
Texas 1972
Vancouver, B.C. 3-6-72
Ft. Worth, TX 6-24-72
Norfolk, VA 7-5-72
Charlotte, N.C. 7-6-72
Akron, OH 7-11-72
Boston, MA 7-18-72
Boston, MA 7-19-72
MSG, N.Y.C. 7-25-72
MSG, N.Y.C. 7-26-72
A Brussels Affair 1973
Bedspring Symphony 1973
European Tour 1973
Honolulu, HI 1-22-73
Perth, Australia 2-24-73
Birmingham, England 9-19-73
Frankfurt, W. Germany 9-30-73
Copenhagen, Denmark 10-7-73
Essen, W. Germany 10-9-73
Brussels, Belgium 10-17-73
London, England* 11-73
Kansas City, MO 6-6-75
Boston, MA 6-11-75
Boston, MA 6-12-75
Cleveland, OH 6-14-75
MSG, N.Y.C. 6-27-75
Los Angeles, CA 7-9-75
Los Angeles, CA 7-11-75
Los Angeles, CA 7-13-75
Glasgow, Scotland 5-10-76
London, England 5-27-76
Lyon, France 6-9-76
Pathe Marconi Studios - Paris, France 1977-1978
Handsome Girls 1978
Tour Rehearsals 1978
Bearsville Studios, NY 5-78
Passaic, N.J.* 6-14-78
Philadelphia, PA 6-17-78
The Palladium, N.Y.C. 6-19-78
Cleveland, OH 7-1-78
Buffalo, NY 7-4-78
Chicago, IL 7-8-78
Fort Worth, TX 7-18-78
Anaheim, CA 7-23-78
Anaheim, CA 7-24-78
Oakland, CA 7-26-78
Tucson, AZ 7-27-78
Phoenix, AZ* 1981
Philadelphia, PA 9-25-81
Buffalo, NY 9-27-81
Candlestick Park, S.F. 10-18-81
Louisville, KY 11-3-81
Des Plains, IL 11-23-81
Lexington, KY 12-11-81
Kansas City, MO 12-14-81
Kansas City, MO 12-15-81
Newcastle, England 6-23-82
Bristol, England 6-27-82
Nice, France 7-20-82
San Diego, CA 2-4-89
Toronto, Canada 9-3-89
Los Angeles, CA 10-19-89
Atlantic City, NJ 12-19-89
Madrid, Spain 6-16-90
Johannesburg, S. Africa 2-25-95
London, England 7-19-95
Oakland, CA 11-19-97
Las Vegas, NV 11-22-97
Boston, MA 3-22-99
Toronto, Ontario 8-16-02
Chicago, IL 9-16-02
Philadelphia, PA 9-21-02
Upper Darby, PA 9-22-02
MSG, N.Y.C 1-18-03
Columbus, OH 9-24-05
Atlanta, GA 2-8-06

VIDEO:

Cocksucker Blues DVD
Video Jukebox DVD
8mm & Timeless DVD
Stoned Again By Rockers MCP-RS03 DVD
Video Compilation 1964-1966 DVD
Touring History Vol.5 1964-1968 DVD
Complete Ed Sullivan Show 1964-1969 DVD
The Red Skelton Show 8-5-64 VCD
Moving North 1965 DVD
TV Clips 1965-1969 DVD
Charlie Is My Darling 1966 DVD
The Look Of The Week 5-21-67 DVD
Never Too Old - Live In Germany 1967-1982 DVD
The Rolling Stones In The Park 7-5-69 DVD
Live In Europe 1970 DVD
London, England 3-26-71 DVD
Ladies And Gentlemen… 11-72 DVD
Montreux Rehearsals 5-21-72 DVD
MSG, NYC 7-25-72 DVD
Dick Cavett Show 8-11-72 DVD
Rare Video Clips 1972-1973 DVD
Australian Tour Documentary 1973 DVD
European Tour Special 1973 DVD
Live In Germany 1973 DVD
Jukebox 1-11-75 DVD
Los Angeles, CA 7-11-75 DVD
From U.K. To Germany 1976 DVD
Knebworth, England 8-21-76 DVD
Some Girls Tour Special 1978 DVD
Some Tour ‘78 MCP-RS04 1978 DVD
Reusable (Various Clips) 1978 DVD
Fort Worth, TX 7-18-78 DVD
Saturday Night Live Rehearsals 10-78 DVD
Saturday Night Live 10-7-78 DVD
Simply Eight 1981-1982 DVD
Tattoo Me 1981-1982 DVD
Hampton, VA 12-18-81 DVD
Wembley Stadium, London 1982 DVD
BBC 1982 ` 1982 DVD
German TV Special 1982 DVD
Seattle, WA 10-15-81 DVD
Los Angeles, CA 10-19-81 DVD
Houston, TX 10-28-81 DVD
“The Rolling Stones In Morocco” 6-89 DVD
Dallas, TX 11-11-89 DVD
Montreal, Canada 12-14-89 DVD
Atlantic City, NJ 12-19-89 DVD
MTV Rockumentary 1-7-90 DVD
The Today Show 2-90 DVD
Tokyo, Japan 2-24-90 DVD
Barcelona, Spain 6-14-90 DVD
Conversations With… (VH1) 1994 DVD
Voodoo Lounge Special 1994 DVD
East Rutherford, NJ 8-15-94 DVD
East Rutherford, NJ 8-17-94 DVD
Chicago, IL 9-11-94 DVD
Philadelphia, PA 9-22-94 DVD
Philadelphia, PA 9-23-94 DVD
Oakland, CA 10-31-94 DVD
60 Minutes 11-13-94 DVD
Miami, FL 11-25-94 DVD
Stripped (Various) 1995 DVD
Stripped (10th Anniversary Ed.) 1995 DVD
Johannesburg, S. Africa 2-25-95 DVD
Cologne, Germany 6-20-95 DVD
Chicago, IL 9-18-97 DVD
MSG, NYC 1-14-98 DVD
Bremen, Germany 2-9-98 DVD
Buenos Aires, Argentina 3-30-98 DVD
Rio de Janiero, Brazil 4-18-98 DVD
Chorzow, Poland 8-14-98 DVD
Bremen, Germany 9-2-98 DVD
Stockholm, Sweden 9-8-98 DVD
Istanbul, Turkey 9-19-98 DVD
Minneapolis, MN 2-15-99 DVD
Toronto, Canada 2-25-99 DVD
Washington, D.C. 3-7-99 DVD
Oklahoma City, OK 4-10-99 DVD
Chicago, IL (Interview) 4-12-99 DVD
Toronto, Ontario 8-16-02 DVD
Toronto, Ontario (Rehearsal) 8-16-02 DVD
Philadelphia, PA 9-18-02 DVD
MSG, NYC 1-16-03 DVD
Bangalore, PA 4-4-03 DVD
Hong Kong 11-7-03 DVD
A Bigger Bang 2005 DVD
A Bigger Bang 2006 DVD
A Bigger Bang 2007 DVD
Boston, MA 8-21-05 DVD
Miami, FL 10-17-05 DVD
Fresno, CA 11-20-05 DVD
Buenos Aires, Argentina 2-21-06 DVD
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 3-12-06 DVD
Radio City Music Hall, NYC 3-14-06 DVD
Sataima, Japan 4-2-06 DVD
Melbourne, Australia 4-13-06 DVD
Porto, Portugal 8-12-06 DVD
Sheffield, England 8-27-06 DVD
East Rutherford, NJ 9-27-06 DVD
Shine A Light On You 2008 DVD
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn bro that is a good list!!!!! I might take you up on that offer. I just downloaded a bunch of shows from here
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but you have some good stuff. How's the quality on most of them?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is good news - I wonder if those "unearthed tracks" are the ones that have been floating around for years. I have a disc with a combo of alternate takes from Sticky Fingers, and some tunes that sound like they were recorded between 71-73. Also some rough demos of Tumblin Dice (Hard Luck Woman??)
I would really like to see that documentary. I too, love the debauched Stones of this era and am facinated by the whole Exile/Nellcote thing. I've read Up and Down with The Rolling Stones many times. Wonder if there is any footage of Gram Parsons and Keith jamming??

I must say, vlad's lists of boots are mindboggling and a little overwhelming!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are some pics.



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These were taken by " Dominique Tarlé during the Exile sessions at Nellcôte. One look at the photos, and you can see that these were no ordinary recording sessions. If you're a fan of this album and can make the trip, I highly recommend it. Genesis Publications released a strictly limited edition book of these photos in 2001, simply entitled Exile. Long out of print and difficult to find, the book commands at least several thousand dollars on Ebay--if and when it becomes available"

Courtesy the San Francisco Art Exchange. There are a bunch more pics here

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, so Amazon has the previews up and you can sample the ' new ' tracks
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You can pretty much tell where Sir Mick has voiced over new vocals. I'm really split on this. Some of these are so cleaned up that they sound like todays version of the Stones. Others retain a bit of filth. Pass the Wine sounds like it came out of the Emotional Rescue sessions rather than Exile. Good Time Women is am alternate version of Tumbling Dice with new vocals and guitar. Title 5 sound like the real deal, although I never thought the Stones would tackle surf music.

I guess the only good thing about the overdubs is they brought in Mick Taylor which is good because the man is destitute and been screwed by the Glimmer Twins for a bit. I'm not too sure about this.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You can pretty much tell where Sir Mick has voiced over new vocals. I'm really split on this. Some of these are so cleaned up that they sound like todays version of the Stones. Others retain a bit of filth. Pass the Wine sounds like it came out of the Emotional Rescue sessions rather than Exile. Good Time Women is am alternate version of Tumbling Dice with new vocals and guitar. Title 5 sound like the real deal, although I never thought the Stones would tackle surf music.

I guess the only good thing about the overdubs is they brought in Mick Taylor which is good because the man is destitute and been screwed by the Glimmer Twins for a bit. I'm not too sure about this.

Sounds pretty good overall. I have the instro version of So Divine on a bootleg, and Hard Luck Woman too. I like that Title 5 song. nice boogie! Thos are awesome pics you posted too. That would have been a crazy time, playing guitars and taking drugs in an estate in the south of France...

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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some " New " Rolling Stones remixes and re-releases with heavy influence on the live stuff. Pretty much all their live albums are or are going thru some touching - up for better or for worse.


The big one comes with the release of the deluxe Get Your Ya-Ya's Out box set.. This album has been in my core top 5 albums of all time. A true statement of nasty rock and roll. The first thing that I noticed was Bill freakin Wyman. On the old mix he was there but on this new mix he shakes you bones. On tunes like Live With Me and Little Queenie he is rock solid but it is with Midnight Rambler he shows you just how important he was to the Stones sound. He lays some serious foundation for the guiratists to do their business.


Speaking of the ax men...The Richards/ Taylor connection also gets a nice clean, clear upgrade here. Both of them slash and burn their way through the set, and the interplay between the two is ferocious. The old mix was a little sloppier but the clarity that comes from the new mix still retains the appropiate amount of sleeze to make it sound just a nasty.


Due to some weird contract restrictions there are only 5 songs on disc two. These are all unreleased tracks .According to their ABCKO contract, the original cuts of those early Stones albums states that they can't be altered from their original order. From a marketing standpoint it makes no sense at all as these tracks could have easily been included on Disc one.


Thus the 5 songs appear out of order from their concert setlist. This takes away a little from the flow of the whole " concert experience" but the tunes sound just as good as the rest. The Under My Thumb> I'm Free combo is the highlight of the new stuff and adds some jammy goodness that the Stones don't normally get credited for. A blistering Satisfaction puts a nice cap on the the Stones portion of the release.

Disc three is a compilation of BB King and Ike and Tina Turner performances culled from their opening spots on the 69 Stones tour. I'm sure a lot of folks have heard BB King before and his performances are good here, but holy crap did Tina Turner kick some ass!!!! All of her cuts on this disc are phenominal. If you young'uns haven't heard old Tina Turner this is a fantastic intoduction. Don't miss these at any cost. Just great great music!


If you are a big Stones fan then I would say that this is a worthy release. You get just about every song that was played on the tour and the sound is great. If you are not a huge Stones fan, you should still have Ya Ya's in your collection but this release might not be worth the price as the nuances will be lost on you.

I can also do the Love You Live review as that was recently remixed as well. Let me know if ya'll are interested in my drivel Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What did Mick Jagger say when he saw Hugh Hefner making love to Dennis Weaver at the Playboy Mansion?

"Hey Hugh, get off of McCloud!"

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The Rolling Stones
Conversations with The Rolling Stones (VH1)
Broadcast date: 1994
Graceful Duck Archive

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Chapters approximately every 5 minutes
NTSC
TRT: 23:51
Audio codec: AC3
Audio bitrate: 256 kb/s
Video codec: MPEG2
Video bitrate: 9042 kb/s

Very well done film, produced by Albert Maysles (Monterey Pop,
Gimme Shelter, The Beatles: The First U.S. Visit). This
short film covers a broad spectrum of topics - roots, songs,
albums, touring, the departure of Bill Wyman and the new
album "Voodoo Lounge". Presented in black and white, there
is a great sense of intimacy during the interviews by Kurt Loder.
Some color footage of a reheasal and live performance is sprinkled
in, making this video a truly enjoyable experience.
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Considering the topic of this thread I will keep posting these vids I'm uploading. Do people here ever download? Seriously.

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The Rolling Stones
20/20 (ABC)
Broadcast date: 9-22-89
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Hugh Downs and Barbara Walters introduce this report, hosted
by Stone Phillips. The focus this time, is on the reuniting
of the band after a few years of seperation. The interview
is well done, with a lot of historical footage and current
life on the road sprinkled in. It's nice to see Bill Wyman
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This is real. And it's very very strange. Bill Wyman has a "signature" metal detector.


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I'm trying to add some humor to this joint. Something has to loosen you guys up for cryin' out loud.

Q: What's the difference between Mick Jagger and a Scottsman?
A: Mick says "Hey you, get off of my cloud" and the Scottsman says "Hey McCloud, get off of my ewe"
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Here's my second of the day. I hope you guys are enjoying these!

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The Rolling Stones
The Today Show (NBC)
Broadcast Dates: February 14,15 1990
Host: Rona Elliot
Today Show Hosts: Bryant Gumbel, Deborah Norville
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A two part look at The Stones, on their 25th anniversary,
promoting the video "25 x 5". Nice interviews with Mick
and Keith are sprinkled with many classic film clips.

**Bonus Clip**
"Mixed Emotion"
The MTV Music Video Awards
via satellite from Pittsburgh, PA
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You can pretty much tell where Sir Mick has voiced over new vocals. I'm really split on this. Some of these are so cleaned up that they sound like todays version of the Stones. Others retain a bit of filth. Pass the Wine sounds like it came out of the Emotional Rescue sessions rather than Exile. Good Time Women is am alternate version of Tumbling Dice with new vocals and guitar. Title 5 sound like the real deal, although I never thought the Stones would tackle surf music.

I guess the only good thing about the overdubs is they brought in Mick Taylor which is good because the man is destitute and been screwed by the Glimmer Twins for a bit. I'm not too sure about this.
Just read an article about the re-release of Exile in this mos. issue of Guitar World Magazine. Keith admits to him and Mick cleaning up some tracks...but says of Mick Taylors contribution to the re-issue "That's a rumor babe. If he was on there, I would know. We've had no contact with Mick for a long time." I guess it's going to be released in three different formats.
The basic package is a CD containing new remastered versions of the 18 tracks from the original album. The deluxe version includes a bonus disc with 10 previously unreleased tracks from the albums era. The super deluxe release adds on two vinyl albums, containing the original album and bonus tracks, a DVD on the making of Exile, and a 50 page collectors book with photos. Pretty interesting article. Keith also quips "Rumors of my sobriety are grossly exagerrated." Gotta love it. Speaking of rumors--are there any about The Stones going out for another tour? BTW, I just went to Mick Taylor's Homepage and there was a schedule of his current tour. Seems like he's playing small clubs. It would be a damn shame if this great guitarist and artist was destitute. I have always loved his playing.
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The Rolling Stones
60 Minutes (CBS)
Broadcast date: 11-13-94
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The late Ed Bradley at his best in this engaging and
informative look at Rolling Stones. In typical form,
Ed doesn't just do research and conduct an interview,
but rather, he spends some serious time with The Stones
on location in New Orleans.

The interviews are intimate, candid and provocative.
Subjects covered include The Stones as a business entity,
the demons of drug addiction and Mick Jagger's image.

The clips of New Orleans life really are fantastic. You
will wish this one would continue for a while. I truly
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ok, so Amazon has the previews up and you can sample the ' new ' tracks
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You can pretty much tell where Sir Mick has voiced over new vocals. I'm really split on this. Some of these are so cleaned up that they sound like todays version of the Stones. Others retain a bit of filth. Pass the Wine sounds like it came out of the Emotional Rescue sessions rather than Exile. Good Time Women is am alternate version of Tumbling Dice with new vocals and guitar. Title 5 sound like the real deal, although I never thought the Stones would tackle surf music.

I guess the only good thing about the overdubs is they brought in Mick Taylor which is good because the man is destitute and been screwed by the Glimmer Twins for a bit. I'm not too sure about this.
Just read an article about the re-release of Exile in this mos. issue of Guitar World Magazine. Keith admits to him and Mick cleaning up some tracks...but says of Mick Taylors contribution to the re-issue "That's a rumor babe. If he was on there, I would know. We've had no contact with Mick for a long time." I guess it's going to be released in three different formats.
The basic package is a CD containing new remastered versions of the 18 tracks from the original album. The deluxe version includes a bonus disc with 10 previously unreleased tracks from the albums era. The super deluxe release adds on two vinyl albums, containing the original album and bonus tracks, a DVD on the making of Exile, and a 50 page collectors book with photos. Pretty interesting article. Keith also quips "Rumors of my sobriety are grossly exagerrated." Gotta love it. Speaking of rumors--are there any about The Stones going out for another tour? BTW, I just went to Mick Taylor's Homepage and there was a schedule of his current tour. Seems like he's playing small clubs. It would be a damn shame if this great guitarist and artist was destitute. I have always loved his playing.



Well damn all these rumors!!! I don't know what to think as I have read that he definately did and now he definately didn't. I'm lost.

What I do know is that Mick Taylor had to cancel gigs as he has pneumonia.
Also this is an article on the rather sad state of affairs that Mick Taylor's life had become back in Sept.

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It's kinda of sad really. I hope he can climb back. Let us not forget that Mick jammed with our Deadboys at that Rain forest benifit in 87 or 88 on Little Red Rooster!!
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shit! That is really sad. He absolutly needs a lawyer. It reallsy sucks that Mick and Keith are treating the guy who contributed so much to their best work like crap. Thanks for the link. I had no idea.


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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mick and Keith are friggin A-holes. I still love their old music (gee its amazing that after Taylor left the quality waned....) but I will never give them another penny. Mick Taylor is just another in the long list of people whose lives they have destroyed or attempted to. Brian Jones, Marianne Faithfull, Marshall Chess, Talitha Getty, Gram Parsons (although he was on the road to ruin anyway)...

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The Rolling Stones
Voodoo Lounge Special (MTV)
1994
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Kurt Loder hosts this look at the Rolling Stones as they
embark upon the 1994 Voodoo Lounge Tour. After a brief
historical overview, this special focuses on different
aspects of the tour - rehearsals, logistics, the scene
backstage, and the fans. We get some nice interview
clips from all band members - including new bass player
Darryl Jones. Some nice rehearsal footage from Toronto
7-12-94, also some footage from the small Toronto club gig
on 7-19-94, and finally a complete "Not Fade Away" show
opener from East Rutherford, NJ on 8-14-94. This is a
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Mick and Keith are friggin A-holes. I still love their old music (gee its amazing that after Taylor left the quality waned....) but I will never give them another penny. Mick Taylor is just another in the long list of people whose lives they have destroyed or attempted to. Brian Jones, Marianne Faithfull, Marshall Chess, Talitha Getty, Gram Parsons (although he was on the road to ruin anyway)...



I could not agree more!
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Crosby, Stills & Nash
West 57th (CBS)
Host: John Ferrugia
Bradcast Date: 10-3-87
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This video is brutally honest. No punches are pulled.
I couldn't take my eyes off this one.
If you love this band, you have to see this.
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

7 DAYS til the release of the new Exile!!! Jimmy Fallon is having an Exile blowout on his show this week.

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The record is being reissued on 5/18 with 10 additional tracks that are from that period but never before released. Leading up to that, Late Night with Jimmy Fallon is devoting all of next week's shows to the record and the Stones, and is having musical guests perform selected songs from the record each night. Green Day will start the week off on Monday, Tuesday will have Keith Urban, Wednesday will be Sheryl Crow, and Thursday, Phish. Throughout the week, artists will sit in with the Fallon house, band, The Roots. Taj Mahal is slated for Monday, Pearl Jam's Mike McCready on Tuesday, the Rolling Stones' keyboardist Chuck Leavell on Wednesday, and Dr. John on Thursday.

This is the best part though...Rounding out the week, Fallon will be showing Stones in Exile, a documentary about "Exile on Main Street" (out 6/22) with limited commercial interruptions. The film was developed to complement the release of the reissue, and it features rare, never-before-seen archival film from the time during the recording in France, photos and interviews as well as new conversations with the band and artists they have influenced. Frankly, that's the part I'm most interested in...the atmosphere during the recording of the record was said to have made a huge impact on the record itself and if you know the history, you'll definitely see the record in a new light.


I'm pumped for the Documentary!!
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7 DAYS til the release of the new Exile!!! Jimmy Fallon is having an Exile blowout on his show this week.

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The record is being reissued on 5/18 with 10 additional tracks that are from that period but never before released. Leading up to that, Late Night with Jimmy Fallon is devoting all of next week's shows to the record and the Stones, and is having musical guests perform selected songs from the record each night. Green Day will start the week off on Monday, Tuesday will have Keith Urban, Wednesday will be Sheryl Crow, and Thursday, Phish. Throughout the week, artists will sit in with the Fallon house, band, The Roots. Taj Mahal is slated for Monday, Pearl Jam's Mike McCready on Tuesday, the Rolling Stones' keyboardist Chuck Leavell on Wednesday, and Dr. John on Thursday.

This is the best part though...Rounding out the week, Fallon will be showing Stones in Exile, a documentary about "Exile on Main Street" (out 6/22) with limited commercial interruptions. The film was developed to complement the release of the reissue, and it features rare, never-before-seen archival film from the time during the recording in France, photos and interviews as well as new conversations with the band and artists they have influenced. Frankly, that's the part I'm most interested in...the atmosphere during the recording of the record was said to have made a huge impact on the record itself and if you know the history, you'll definitely see the record in a new light.


I'm pumped for the Documentary!!


Phish just did all of Exile for Halloween 09. I wouldn't be surprised when Phish gets Loving Cup.

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That's one I'd lke to hear. Have a shitload of Phish. Never listen to it.
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Duderino wrote:
Mick and Keith are friggin A-holes. I still love their old music (gee its amazing that after Taylor left the quality waned....) but I will never give them another penny. Mick Taylor is just another in the long list of people whose lives they have destroyed or attempted to. Brian Jones, Marianne Faithfull, Marshall Chess, Talitha Getty, Gram Parsons (although he was on the road to ruin anyway)...


Marshall Chess screwed by a band, there's a man bites dog story!
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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7 DAYS til the release of the new Exile!!! Jimmy Fallon is having an Exile blowout on his show this week.

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The record is being reissued on 5/18 with 10 additional tracks that are from that period but never before released. Leading up to that, Late Night with Jimmy Fallon is devoting all of next week's shows to the record and the Stones, and is having musical guests perform selected songs from the record each night. Green Day will start the week off on Monday, Tuesday will have Keith Urban, Wednesday will be Sheryl Crow, and Thursday, Phish. Throughout the week, artists will sit in with the Fallon house, band, The Roots. Taj Mahal is slated for Monday, Pearl Jam's Mike McCready on Tuesday, the Rolling Stones' keyboardist Chuck Leavell on Wednesday, and Dr. John on Thursday.

This is the best part though...Rounding out the week, Fallon will be showing Stones in Exile, a documentary about "Exile on Main Street" (out 6/22) with limited commercial interruptions. The film was developed to complement the release of the reissue, and it features rare, never-before-seen archival film from the time during the recording in France, photos and interviews as well as new conversations with the band and artists they have influenced. Frankly, that's the part I'm most interested in...the atmosphere during the recording of the record was said to have made a huge impact on the record itself and if you know the history, you'll definitely see the record in a new light.


I'm pumped for the Documentary!!
So Fallon is showing the documentary during his regular time slot?
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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2010 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So just finished watching the new Stones documentary on Jimmy Fallon. Some obsrevations:

Bobby Keys is freakin AWESOME!!

Anita Pallenberg was quite the hottie.

Thank Christ that they mangaged to give a brief seconds recognition to Bill Wyamn and Mick Taylor. There were numerous pics of Taylor but less of Wyman, and I was seething that there was hardly a mention of them throught the doc. Nice to see them get a little recognition.

Some nice insight to how the songs came about from both Mick and Keith. I would love to see even more of this stuff as it is really good.

Great pics of Nelllcote and great back scenes of the atosphere there. Props to Fallon and NBC for aloowing all the drug footage.

Surprised by Jack White's lack of knowledge of the album. Yet he re-creates some of the same sound.

Overall I loved it and can't wait til Tuesday to hear the new stuff.
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Oh, this pains me to say this but I'm not gonna sugar-coat it. The new re-issue of Exile On Main Street sucks balls!!!!!!!!!!!!! [CENSORED] Mick and Keith. There is nothing worthwhile in this piece of crap release. NOTHING!

I've given it numerous listenings and besides from some minor, and I do mean minor, improvements. There is nothing worth noting. This is a maketing ploy to seperate you from your money. This is the reason the record industry is in the shitter. Not only is there slim to no improvement in sound quality here the ' New ' stuff sucks balls. I could go into track by track but it's not worth your time.

It's Mick and Keith singing and playing over old tracks with some added vocals tracks etc. Half the tunes sound like Emotional Rescue outtakes. There is a drunken or smacked out Keith vocal on Soul Survivor that addds nothing new, except give you an idea of the fucked up state of mind he was in while making it. The second Loving cup is nice and sloppy and I wish they would have used more of this type stuff.

I'm really dissapointed in this. The booklet is nothing special. Nothing is special. Save your money and room on you hard drive and leave this garbage alone. I mean at least with last year's Beatle's reissues there was a sense of discovery. New sounds came out, things sounded clearer, and overall they were enjoyable. This Stones CRAP is a vain attempt to copy that and falls far short of the least of my expectations. Shame on the Glimmer Twins.
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Well since this went the way I thought it would, I will say if the Stones promoted the last studio album or last live album as much as they promoted this, perhaps people would have bought it. I will give credit where it is due though, the advertising and excitement built around a release that almost everyone has was quite amazing.

I think the only money I will spend on reissues this year are goin to be from Jimi Hendrix. I am not sure if you heard about this, but they are rereleasing a bunch of albums and each has a DVD documentary. This is to build excitement for the Jimi Hendrix Anthology that will be televised like the Beatles Anthology.
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I didn't think the extra stuff was that bad, but I didn't think it was particularly revelatory either. There are already enough outtakes out there (some of which would have been better choices for a release like this, imho) and I'm sure anyone who really cares has heard them. As for the "remastered" sound, I was let down, but y'know, it's Exile, it was recorded in a basement, it's not supposed to sound great. That's part of the charm. So much of the appeal of the record is its shagginess that to give the Royal Deluxe Reissue treatment struck me as a little silly anyway. Ah well.

But yeah, if you're on the fence, save your money.
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Sorry Duck but WTF does this have to do about the Stones??
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I have no clue. I love the stones, but koch seems to think you guys like this stupid video that he embedded my posts with.
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Duck is in Duckie mode, as in Baby Duckie....You will see that once a week now for the last three weeks, he whines on every post and cries about Koch....Duckie will make sure his name appears first on every thread then and then try(weakly I might add) to convince everyone he is a victim of one form or another.

This week it is "look what Koch is doing, does'nt it look terrible" As if anyone is going to believe that Koch edited his profile to do that AND, think he is clever by drawing attention to how annoying the vid clip is......In other words he thinks he is getting over by blaming Koch and drawing attention to the annoying part...This way he thinks that people will actually get annoyed, thereby completing his goal.......Sorry Duckie, I have to call you out when you do [CENSORED] as retarded as this.
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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ok, so Amazon has the previews up and you can sample the ' new ' tracks
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You can pretty much tell where Sir Mick has voiced over new vocals. I'm really split on this. Some of these are so cleaned up that they sound like todays version of the Stones. Others retain a bit of filth. Pass the Wine sounds like it came out of the Emotional Rescue sessions rather than Exile. Good Time Women is am alternate version of Tumbling Dice with new vocals and guitar. Title 5 sound like the real deal, although I never thought the Stones would tackle surf music.

I guess the only good thing about the overdubs is they brought in Mick Taylor which is good because the man is destitute and been screwed by the Glimmer Twins for a bit. I'm not too sure about this.
Just read an article about the re-release of Exile in this mos. issue of Guitar World Magazine. Keith admits to him and Mick cleaning up some tracks...but says of Mick Taylors contribution to the re-issue "That's a rumor babe. If he was on there, I would know. We've had no contact with Mick for a long time." I guess it's going to be released in three different formats.
The basic package is a CD containing new remastered versions of the 18 tracks from the original album. The deluxe version includes a bonus disc with 10 previously unreleased tracks from the albums era. The super deluxe release adds on two vinyl albums, containing the original album and bonus tracks, a DVD on the making of Exile, and a 50 page collectors book with photos. Pretty interesting article. Keith also quips "Rumors of my sobriety are grossly exagerrated." Gotta love it. Speaking of rumors--are there any about The Stones going out for another tour? BTW, I just went to Mick Taylor's Homepage and there was a schedule of his current tour. Seems like he's playing small clubs. It would be a damn shame if this great guitarist and artist was destitute. I have always loved his playing.




So Mick Taylor DID play on the new stuff!!!:

"When it began to leak out that Mick Taylor was in some way involved in this reissue, many fans couldn't believe it. Well, he can definitely be heard on more than a few of the bonus tracks--and he is credited on six of them. On I'm Not Signifying--one of the few tracks with an original, country-drawl vocal from Jagger, Richards isn't even listed as playing."


Great to see it. Now Don Was would not confirm or deny it in an interview I saw but you could tell he was hiding something. My feeling on this is perhaps there might be some issues with Ronnie Wood that Mick and Keith wanted to keep on the down low . Who knows? But it's kind of weird how the topic is never really addressed in anything except the credits in the liner notes.
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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad to hear Mick T is on it after all. I may buy it just for that reason alone. Thanks for the verification. What the fuck's up with Keith anyway. Too much or too little smack I guess.
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