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3 8 70 - mystery guest doing the Pigpen

 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:02 pm    Post subject: 3 8 70 - mystery guest doing the Pigpen Reply with quote


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Cold Rain And Snow, Yellow Dog Story, China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider > High Time, Dire Wolf, Hard To Handle, Monkey and The Engineer, I've Been Around This World, Me And My Uncle, Black Peter, Katie Mae > Impromptu Blues, Not Fade Away > Turn On Your Lovelight

I think the Dead had some equipment issues on this one. Cold Rain and Snow cuts in and sounds kind of crappy. Pretty average electical set, Dire Wolf is nice and bouncy, a highlight, and Hard To Handle is decent, if short. The acoustic set is pretty sweet actually. A lengthy discussion between Bob and Jerry on breathing and then an intro, then Monkey And The Engineer (which is sort of wrecked by sound issues,) I've Been All Around This World, MAMU, Black Peter caps it off, I really enjoyed the Black Peter a lot, probably my favorite tune off this one, very nice and moody.

Next comes the issue of who the hell the guest is. Some weird mystery guy who does some Pigpen impressions joins in on vocals. My current theory is that Pigpen was kidnapped and distracted by a gang of hippie women, and whoever was the dealer for the GD at the time was invited up to sing some blues. Almost not bad, but I couldn't get the thought out of my head that the guy sounded like Adam Sandler singing, although he is trying to be serious and bluesy, and really tries to get the crowd going. Maybe worth listening to just for the novelty, some of his shouts and yelling are near Donna esque, the sort of lengthy blues jam has this guy rapping a bunch, and he kind of goes downhill on NFA, the scatting gets kind of bad, but NFA is a fairly burly version of the era. The Lovelight starts out strong with Jerry noodles but poops out and then gets cut, Pigpen returns back to the mix in Lovelight, but nothing superexciting.
Really dug the three other acoustic tunes though, Peter was sick.
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Jim Blackwood notes that this was Vince
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light into ashes



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man. This is about as bad as a 1970 show gets.
It stays unexciting for a long time, and then at the end - when you think things might improve for a big jammin' finish - out comes Pigpen's "friend" with his awful noises. I bet Pigpen even encouraged him, he probably got a kick out of it. The Dead just ignore him - they probably just shrugged and said "what the heck, we weren't going to play anything special anyway...."
(Compare this to the 6/8/69 Lovelight where Wayne Ceballos sings.....now that was a half-hour of hell....)
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm...

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Next comes the issue of who the hell the guest is.


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he is trying to be serious and bluesy, and really tries to get the crowd going. Maybe worth listening to just for the novelty, some of his shouts and yelling are near Donna esque


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this was Vince
Welnick's 1st Dead show.


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The Dead just ignore him - they probably just shrugged and said "what the heck, we weren't going to play anything special anyway...."


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this was Vince
Welnick's 1st Dead show.



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NFA is definitely left a smoldering heap by "mystery guest," who is also playing some white boy blues harp. The rest of the band isn't so bad as I mentioned. At about 8:42 there is an attempt to slay the beast, an awkward false start into Lovelight that hangs there for a minute like a stale fart before NFA rolls in again and awkwardly stumbles to the segue a minute later into what is then a promising lovelight. At this point mystery guest more or less disappears and Pig is back in Pig form. At first I was even thinking, this could be as good as Live/Dead lovelight, but no, runs out of steam.

nickJ, I was considering naming this thread 3 8 70 Vince's First Show. Very Happy
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