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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:21 am    Post subject: The Who or Led Zeppelin Reply with quote

If you could see one of them in their PRIME who would it be and why?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:24 am    Post subject: Re: The Who or Led Zeppelin Reply with quote

lucasmcain wrote:
If you could see one of them in their PRIME who would it be and why?


The Who... I never really "got" Zeppelin.

I like the Who a lot, stuff like Quadrophenia for example. What a great album amongst the concept albums of those days..
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Who, although I love both, but the Who was more formative for me. Really the first hard rock band that I was into (unless you count Kiss in first grade). Plus, The Who simply put on a better live show than Zeppelin, at least for me. Both would have been awesome though.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm gonna hold off on saying my vote but.......I heard from a lot of old timers that Zeppelin's live show was something else. But the the 'EW could unleash a powerful beast when they were on.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saw Zep twice in 69-Fucking phenominal. Saw The Who about four years ago sans Entwhistle and Moon. Zack Starkey played drums. They were great but certainly past their prime. Zep at that time didn't have a bad song. Led Zep II had just come out when I saw them. Tommy was out as well and I didn't care for it much then. [CENSORED] I was only 16 and Zep was what most of the kids I hung around with preferred. The Who kind of grew on me. Dug Zep from the get go.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Saw Zep twice in 69-Fucking phenominal.



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:25 pm    Post subject: Re: The Who or Led Zeppelin Reply with quote

Kochman wrote:
I never really "got" Zeppelin.


Lets see if I can do this like a youngster...

OMFG!

Dude, eat some good window pane and take a walk through the woods with II or IV on your IPOD, amazing shit!

Mystical, Celtic rock, IMHO.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Who. Led Zep was a band that I never really got into. The Who on the other hand I grew up on. I still have a VHS my dad recorded off Fox in the 80s of Tommy. They were playing it in Cleveland as a way to raise money for the yet unbuilt Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame. This video includes Elton John, Billy Idol, Patty Lebelle, along with Pete, Roger and The Ox. Ha Ha I just thought about the commercials on that thing. Remember the Eagle Talon. Also any of you Cleveland natives remember the old Buzzard radio station logo. When I get a DVD recorder than can record VHS I will send out B and P's of this. The quality is to be desired but still a neat find.

I have watched The Kids Are Alright so many fracking times that it is ridiculous. The performance of Sparks that is on that movie always blew me away. Also the Woodstock footage is great. I still want to see Pete hit Abbie Hoffman off the stage. The little research I have done there is no video of this happening. I think there might be audio of it though.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya want fuckin' details-Listen to the first three albums

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fillmoreeast wrote:
Ya want fuckin' details-Listen to the first three albums


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know the albums what about the live shows ???????? Was it powerful and energetic or was it a straight out assualt on the senses?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neither - I would rather have seen Otis Redding Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a number of high quality Zep shows available over at losslesslegs.
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a link with lots of Zep MP3 downloads

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neither Wink
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now you're just piling on! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry couldn't resist Smile

I suppose if I was really forced to choose between the two, I could just, just about bear Led Zeppelin.
I much prefer Rolf Harris's version of 'Stairway To Heaven' truth be told:

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I would have to constantly remind myself, that they are slightly more interesting than the Who though.
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have to be Zep. One of my totally memorable experiences was peaking to the Lemon Song. Lot more to them than that, but II as a whole is pretty hard to go past. Never found anything I could relate to about the Who on the odd occasions I took the trouble to try.

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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

morticia wrote:
Sorry couldn't resist Smile

I suppose if I was really forced to choose between the two, I could just, just about bear Led Zeppelin.
I much prefer Rolf Harris's version of 'Stairway To Heaven' truth be told:

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I would have to constantly remind myself, that they are slightly more interesting than the Who though.



Ok Morticia I'm showing my age here but.....When I was a kid there was a British broadcast on PBS in the early 80's called the Goodies. ( i think) It was very similar to Monty Python. Not as funny but still good for some laughs. Anyhow they did a skit about how there wa a " Plague of Rolf Harris' invading England" and they showed all these weird prim and proper fellows hopping around jolley old England being chased by the cops and some kind of animal control persons. I think at one point they even gave out Rolf Harris hunting permits to the masses. Even the Queen was seen hunting them. It's always stuck in my head because I had no idea who Rolf Harris is or why all you Brits were trying to kill him.

I find it interesting that you would rather see old Rolf than either of these bands in their prime. So could you please help solve my childhood Rolf Harris mystery and clue me in as to his role in the Empire? Thanks Laughing


PS. I hate to think of what your thoughts are on the 35 min of No Quater's that John Paul Jones would go off on back in their heyday!!!!!
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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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lucasmcain wrote:
a British broadcast on PBS in the early 80's called the Goodies


I remember them well and the episode you are talking about. Well, at the time Rolf Harris was considered to be a bit naff. But actually he has become something of a national treasure (we seem to do that with some Australians: Kylie, Dame Edna Everage etc). Mainly because, I suppose, in his antipodean way, he didn't care what people may think and just got on with doing what he does.

Funnily enough, looking back on it, the Goodies were decidedly naff and definitely not in the same league as the Pythons at all
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Chapman:" Look, I came in here for an argument, you're just contradicting me."
Cleese: "No I'm not !"


When Rolf released his version of 'Stairway To Heaven" (this song is on the banned list in most guitar shops over here by the way), there was such a huge hoo-ha by outraged Zeppelin fans. It was a real hoot Laughing

Yes, I think I would choose Rolf, then Zeppelin, then finally The Who Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:35 pm    Post subject: Re: The Who or Led Zeppelin Reply with quote

Kochman wrote:
lucasmcain wrote:
If you could see one of them in their PRIME who would it be and why?


The Who... I never really "got" Zeppelin.


I'd see Zeppelin, 'cuz I never really got the Who.

Frankly they (the Who) bore me. I get that they have talent and raw energy and all that, but maybe they're just too pretty for me??!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd have to choose the Who, although Zep played loud and long concerts.
I have a few early 70's boots of Zep, and live, Robert Plant was not exactly in key...

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duderino wrote:
I'd have to choose the Who, although Zep played loud and long concerts.
I have a few early 70's boots of Zep, and live, Robert Plant was not exactly in key...


As a fan of early (any) GD, having an in key vocalist was never a prerequisite for me. Wink

I think i'll need to listen to both some Who and Zep live stuff to make a better judgement, because after thinking about it, some of the later live zeppelin bored me as well, and I've heard too little Live Who. I'll come back to the question later.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zeppelin is prty big with my generation now same with ACDC. i have a couple of zeppelin boots but they just ramble on and on and on and on so not really of fan of hearing them live. and thier lyrics are just basicly fluff no substance. I think the who are alot better than zeppelin because for one pete wrote amazing lyrics and daltrey sang so passionatley(sometimes pete sang them better if your a big townshend fan check out of this scoop series thier amazing. but i respect led zep alot but the who hit me personally alot of the times both spirtually and mentally.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a really tough question for me. First, The Who and LZ are probably 1A and 1B on my list of all-time favorite bands. Also, I have always thought that Zeppelin was the better studio band and The Who were the better live performers. In fact for my money, The Who were the best ever on stage (no offense to The Dead). On the other hand, I have seen The Who 4 times, albeit not in their "prime." I never got to see Zeppelin at all. From the numerous live shows I have heard of Zep (authorized releases and otherwise), they were fairly hit or miss performers. Some nights they were fanastically "on" and together. Other nights the booze took an obvious toll and they sounded horrible (always thought booze was a killer for musicians and other recreational activities tended to enhance artistic quality). I mean when Plant downed a couple of fifths of Jack, he sounded terrible.

So, I guess I would have to say Zep. But I would consider selling my children to have been at The Isle of Wight festival to see The Who (and Jimi BTW) b/c at that point in time I believe their live performances were the pinnacle of Rock & Roll. They would open with early hits/classics and covers, then do the entire Tommy set and then close with another set of hard rockin. The energy of the band, driven to ever spiraling heights by the conflict/competition for attention between Pete and Roger, was amazing. Zeppelin, like the Dead, always got along and, when not drunker than Cooter Brown, were almost as tight as The Dead. But there is something about that tension-created energy of The Who that to me epitomized Rock & Roll, which was always in essence a musical expression of teenage/post adolescent angst. As Townshend matured, the writing got immeasurably more intellectual and complex, but the energy of the The Who was built on a combination of the early internal conflicts within the band and the British Mod era teenage angst. I mean the Dude punched freaking Abby Hoffman for interrupting his music during Woodstock. Not exactly in keeping with the feelings of the time and place.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the Who & Zeppelin equally....perhaps I'd give an edge to the Who, because their innovations came earlier, and their pop stuff of the mid-'60s is unmatched. (The Quick One album is my favorite, but My Generation & Sell Out are also full of great tracks.) Pure energy combined with la-la melodies, irresistible. At the time they were the noisiest, most powerful band around. Plus Pete Townshend was such an innovative guitarist. Plus - even acknowledging the Power of Bonham - good grief, Keith Moon! Like a mad hummingbird with drumsticks. Daltrey & Plant sound very similar to me.
Both bands started out with relatively 'simple' music and moved towards more complex 'conceptual' music - I prefer the earlier years of both, being the simple creature I am.
Live - I like the Who best circa 1970 (as on the Live at Leeds album) - you get the whole Tommy show, a whole bunch of their earlier singles, some nice covers, and a long jam at the end, and come out with your ears ringing.
Zeppelin, I'd go for a '71 show (as on disc 2 of the BBC album), when the IV tracks were still new and they just put a little acoustic mini-set in their shows, and were still doing a lot of the early songs I like. (Zeps III & IV are my favorite albums of theirs, with a strong nod to I & II....)
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The Who hands down for me...i occasionally listen to zep, it's 'eh'. It comes down to one word for me: Quadrophenia. I could listen to both sides of this album almost daily...the lyrics, the way they are sung, the music = one of my favorite studio albums of all time

Sea and Sand

Here by the sea and sand
Nothing ever goes as planned,
I just couldn't face going home
It was just a drag on my own.
They finally threw me out
My mother got drunk on stout,
My dad couldn't stand on two feet,
As he lectured about morality.
Now I guess the families complete,
With me hanging round on the street
Or here on the beach.

The girl I love
Is a perfect dresser,
Wears every fashion
Gets it to the tee.
Heavens above,
I got to match her
She knows just how
She wants her man to be
Leave it to me.

My jacket's gonna be cut slim and checked
Maybe a touch of seersucker with an open neck
I ride a G S scooter with my hair cut neat
I wear my wartime coat in the wind and sleet.

I see her dancing
Across the ballroom
U V light making starshine
Of her smile.
I am the face,
She has to know me,
I'm dressed up better than anyone
Within a mile.

So how come the other tickets look much better?
Without a penny to spend they dress to the letter.
How come the girls come on oh so cool
Yet when you meet 'em, every one's a fool.
Come sleep on the beach
Keep within my reach
I just want to die with you near
I'm feeling so high with you here.
I'm wet and I'm cold
But thank God I ain't old
I should have split home at fifteen
Why didn't I ever say what I mean?
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What did I see?
Where have I been?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love Quadrophenia
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duderino wrote:
I'd have to choose the Who, although Zep played loud and long concerts.
I have a few early 70's boots of Zep, and live, Robert Plant was not exactly in key...


you have the WRONG boots then duderino Laughing

Robert's voice did get hammered a bit on some tours, craoked his way along for some shows.

for me, I can't place one above the other, both had amazing energy in concert and riffs that will live forever..

the Rolf Harris above is funny.. I picked up an MP3 album of his greatest hits ( for the Tie Me kangaroo Down Jack more than anything) and love this guy!

my oldest son has taken a liking to it too...
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Rolf also had a prett funny Iko Iko on it too, Aussie accent trying to pull off the cajunistic jock-a-mo-fino is classic!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recently revisited lots of my favorite songs from Tommy, and without question it's the Who....I like Zeppelin but there are other bands in that same class I would take(Who, Stones, Tull)

In middle school I would listen to Tommy almost everyday on the bus for a 2 month span....so many great songs, OVERTURE, Acid Queen, Christmas, 1921, We're Not Gonna Take It, Sally Simpson)

I need to check out Quadrophenia.

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I would have loved to see both bands in 1969. 69 of course has the classic dancing avacado bootleg. Heavy [CENSORED] right by there by the zepsters. The who put on a more protean live show but it still packed a whallop of a punch. It would have been cool to see led zeppelin but its a chore to listen to them (36 minute drum solos no thank you.)

So i would rather have seen both of the bands as a double billing! and yes it did happen once!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Quadrophenia is superior to Tommy... and the Wall is easily superior to them both, while we are talking about "Rock Operas".
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kochman wrote:
I think Quadrophenia is superior to Tommy... and the Wall is easily superior to them both, while we are talking about "Rock Operas".


The Who was may favourite band a couple of decades ago .....
I loved Live at Leads which to me is their best album ... so intense.
Quadrofinia is definetly superior to Tommy (I always hated it).

But today I prefer Led Zep. More complexed / bluesy music, I guess it fitts better to my me today.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good question, tough choice. I'd probably give the Who the edge, despite the mudshark.
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I think our definitions of "mudshark" are different...
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy zeppelin
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Kochman wrote:
I think our definitions of "mudshark" are different...


To quote FZ - "Mud sh-sh-shaaaaaark....."

I have Who and Zep boots from the early-mid 70's, and I must say, listening to the raw material that has not been tampered with in the studio, the Who had a more cohesive live mix and Daltrey could sing relatively in key, which Robert Plant could not.
I would have loved to have seen both live in their heydays..

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plants live singing peak was from 69-73. Then his voice starts to sound like hes going through puberty. Daltrey still sings relatively well.
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Zep is my favorite band, so I would have loved to see them even on their worst night.

However, if I had a choice, I would have been in Columbia, MD on 1969.05.25 because that one night only both bands were on the bill.


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Speaking of a great double-billing


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I'm not old enough to have seen Zep in their heyday, but I did see Page/Plant in '94. I also saw the first Who "farewell" tour in '82 (my first concert ever). Based on what I saw, the Who were a lot better than Page/Plant.

Now, if we go back to the times both bands were in their primes (roughly 68-73), the choice is much tougher. Live At Leeds, as tizi mentioned previously, is an absolute monster album. The fact it has been reissued 3 times since it came out is a testament as to just how strong it is. Comparing that to How The West Was Won (72 Zep) really shows the differences between the two bands. The Who was more of a straight up rock & roll band live. Zep was more of a meandering blues band with the ability to rock. Comparing these two albums, the Who win again.

In my gut, I feel like I should be picking Zep, but generally, my ears tell me the Who. Strange but true.[/i]
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If you asked me this question in 1977, LZ hands down. If you ask this question today but I could go back in time to 1977 with my accumulated knowledge, The Who hands down. Over the years I've grown to really appreciate The Who (which I did not when I was 13) and today find LZ live somewhat meandering and at times full of Page guitar wank.

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