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The Nuts & Bolts of the Top 64 - 2009 - Detailed Info

 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:23 pm    Post subject: The Nuts & Bolts of the Top 64 - 2009 - Detailed Info Reply with quote

This thread will be dedicated to those more interested in the [CENSORED] details. The initial idea came from the Top 50 run at Speeding Arrow Lives back in early 2008. I presented this idea to several people here, and I would like to thank them for their input, much of which has been incorporated. The system isn't perfect, but neither were the Grateful Dead.

There are two long term goals here:
1) Provide newer folks with 64 show from which to cut their teeth on
2) Provide the competitors for next year's March Deadness

Some things haves stayed the same:
*Show with most repeat votes are going to get the slots in the Top 64
*Everyone can vote in each era
*You don't have to use all your votes within an era, but cannot carry over votes into another area
*You do not have to vote for every year within an era
*Results tabulation will be made available to anyone who requests them
*You have an extended window within which you can vote, and during which you can always edit your choices, whatever remains on the last day of voting (10/31/09) at midnight is going to be kept
*There will be a thread for each era's voting records

There have been some changes. Here they are:
*There are 11 eras, instead of 4
*There will be 64 "winners", instead of 50
*Number of votes per era was calculated based on circulating shows within that era. Basically, for every 18-19 shows within an era, the era received one possible vote per/person

Here is an important new feature:
*Slots per era is still being considered, but will likely lend itself to reflect voter participation in an era. In other words, if 65-67 receives only a couple of votes, and 72-74 receives 1000, expect the difference to be reflected in final slots in the Top 64.


Year / Circ. Shows
1965 / 3
1966 / 25
1967 / 16

1968 / 42
1969 / 106

1970 / 95
1971 / 78

1972 / 86
1973 / 74
1974 / 42

1975 / 4
1976 / 42
1977 / 61
1978 /83
Feb 1979 / 19

Apr 1979 / 56
1980 /87
1981 / 85

1982 / 61
1983 / 66
1984 / 64
1985 / 71

1986 / 46
1987 / 87
1988 / 82

1989 / 73
1990 / 74
1991 / 77

1992 / 55
1993 / 81

1994 / 85
1995 / 48


Roughly every 18-19 circulating shows within each era got that era a possible vote, so that broke down as follows:

Votes/Era
1965 - 1967 = 3
1968 - 1969 = 8
1970 - 1971 = 9
1972 - 1974 = 11
1975 - Feb 1979 = 11
Apr 1979 - 1981 = 12
1982 - 1985 = 14
1986 - 1988 = 11
1989 - 1991 = 12
1992 - 1993 = 7
1994 - 1995 = 7
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some stats from the first month of voting (though it was an incomplete month)...

Total Votes as of 10am Eastern, 30 April 2009: 282
Votes per era
1965-1967: 4
1968-1969: 28
1970-1971: 12
1972-1974: 30
1975-Feb1979: 48
Apr1979-1981: 35
1982-1985: 49
1986-1988: 15
1989-1991: 44
1992-1993: 5
1994-1995: 12
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

New totals to include May's voting:

Votes per era as of 31 May 2009
1965-1967: 8
1968-1969: 38
1970-1971: 33
1972-1974: 43
1975-Feb1979: 59
Apr1979-1981: 62
1982-1985: 55
1986-1988: 15
1989-1991: 49
1992-1993: 56
1994-1995: 12

Slots per era (based on votes/era and circulating shows/era) as of 31 May 2009 (This can change based on your input)
1965-1967: 1
1968-1969: 6
1970-1971: 6
1972-1974: 7
1975-Feb1979: 10
Apr1979-1981: 10
1982-1985: 10
1986-1988: 3
1989-1991: 8
1992-1993: 1
1994-1995: 2

I would say we need some more people to post their 72-4 lists!!! We can do better than that! (There are some key lists missing out there too)

I know some of you still want to vote. Don't worry about it being the best list you can come up with... edit it as you go along if you want. You won't have to answer for your voting in front of a judge, nor in the afterlife... I know my list from the last time we did this is pretty much completely different. But the more the merrier! Get your votes in...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

New totals to include June's voting:

Votes per era as of 30 June 2009
1965-1967: 8
1968-1969: 43
1970-1971: 48
1972-1974: 74
1975-Feb1979: 74
Apr1979-1981: 73
1982-1985: 69
1986-1988: 27
1989-1991: 68
1992-1993: 8
1994-1995: 12

Slots per era (based on votes/era and circulating shows/era) as of 30 June 2009 (This can change based on your input)
1965-1967: 1
1968-1969: 6
1970-1971: 6
1972-1974: 9
1975-Feb1979: 9
Apr1979-1981: 9
1982-1985: 9
1986-1988: 3
1989-1991: 9
1992-1993: 1
1994-1995: 2

So far only Gopher and I have submitted any votes in the 92-93 range, and he voted for one show...

There are a few of you whose votes I am really surprised have not been submitted... tsk tsk tsk
Thanks to those who have already voted! 504 total votes so far.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kochman is going koo koo because only 3 people have voted for anything from 92-93... and he is one of them!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

New totals to include September's voting:

Votes per era as of 30 September 2009
1965-1967: 12
1968-1969: 74
1970-1971: 79
1972-1974: 98
1975-Feb1979: 100
Apr1979-1981: 91
1982-1985: 95
1986-1988: 28
1989-1991: 85
1992-1993: 34
1994-1995: 36

Slots per era (based on votes/era and circulating shows/era) as of 30 June 2009 (This can change based on your input)
1965-1967: 1
1968-1969: 6
1970-1971: 7
1972-1974: 8
1975-Feb1979: 9
Apr1979-1981: 8
1982-1985: 8
1986-1988: 3
1989-1991: 8
1992-1993: 3
1994-1995: 3

Thanks to those who have already voted! 732 total votes so far.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at the current slots... I see two problems that jump right out at me...

1970-1971: 7
1994-1995: 3

These both seem over-represented.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed - if I were in charge it would be 5 for '70-71 and 1 for '94-95.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I will probably delete mine to account for it, and a few people have too many picks... so they need to widdle their numbers down (70-71) that is...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some stats for you guys...
Total Votes = 1232 (thanks you all!)
Slots:
65-67: 1 slot (10 voters)
68-69: 5 slots (16 voters)
70-71: 5 slots (20 voters)
72-74: 10 slots (23 voters)
75-79 (through Keith): 9 slots (22 voters)
79-81 (from Brent: 9 slots (19 voters)
82-85: 9 slots (16 voters)
86-88: 4 slots (11 voters)
89-91: 8 slots (19 voters)
92-93: 3 slots (10 voters)
94-95: 1 slot (10 voters)

Shows that were voted for during the process (meaning some finished with 0 votes when people edited their nominations)... AKA... a huge list of some pretty damn good shows:
02/25/66
03/25/66
05/19/66
07/16/66
07/29/66
11/19/66
11/29/66
12/01/66
03/18/67
04/08/67
06/18/67
08/04/67
09/03/67
11/10/67
01/20/68
01/22/68
01/23/68
02/02/68
02/14/68
03/03/68
06/14/68
08/22/68
08/24/68
09/02/68
10/12/68
10/13/68
11/01/68
11/22/68
12/28/68
01/26/69
02/11/69
02/27/69
02/28/69
03/01/69
04/05/69
04/15/69
04/21/69
04/22/69
04/23/69
04/26/69
04/27/69
05/27/69
06/05/69
06/08/69
10/25/69
11/02/69
11/07/69
11/08/69
12/11/69
12/12/69
12/20/69
12/30/69
12/31/69
01/03/70
02/11/70
02/13/70
02/14/70
03/20/70
04/12/70
04/15/70
05/02/70
05/06/70
05/07/70
05/14/70
05/15/70
06/06/70
06/07/70
06/24/70
08/18/70
09/19/70
09/20/70
10/23/70
10/31/70
11/06/70
11/07/70
11/08/70
02/18/71
02/19/71
04/05/71
04/06/71
04/08/71
04/17/71
04/19/71
04/26/71
04/27/71
04/28/71
04/29/71
07/02/71
07/31/71
08/05/71
08/06/71
10/31/71
11/07/71
11/14/71
11/15/71
12/04/71
12/05/71
12/06/71
12/15/71
12/31/71
03/23/72
04/08/72
04/14/72
04/24/72
05/03/72
05/07/72
05/26/72
07/16/72
07/21/72
07/26/72
08/21/72
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09/27/72
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11/19/72
12/11/72
02/09/73
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06/08/74
06/16/74
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07/21/74
07/31/74
08/01/74
08/04/74
08/06/74
09/04/74
09/11/74
09/18/74
10/16/74
10/18/74
06/17/75
08/13/75
09/28/75
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06/22/76
06/28/76
07/13/76
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07/17/76
07/18/76
08/04/76
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09/28/76
10/01/76
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10/10/76
10/15/76
12/31/76
02/26/77
03/18/77
03/19/77
03/20/77
04/23/77
04/25/77
04/30/77
05/03/77
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05/07/77
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05/25/77
05/28/77
06/04/77
06/07/77
06/09/77
09/03/77
09/18/77
10/02/77
10/11/77
10/29/77
11/04/77
11/06/77
11/09/77
12/27/77
12/29/77
01/17/78
01/18/78
01/22/78
01/30/78
02/03/78
02/05/78
04/16/78
04/21/78
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09/01/79
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10/24/79
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11/01/79
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a 3 way tie for most votes received...
2/14/68
5/8/77
3/29/90
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

at least one of the above shows does not even exist, i know because i mentioned it in error, 8-1-74.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kochman wrote:
There was a 3 way tie for most votes received...
2/14/68
5/8/77
3/29/90

Wow, clearly titans. I didn't vote for Cornell or Nassau just to be cantankerous.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

darn, i neglected to vote for 3-5-92
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, so, I have the results, and I have asked Skobud (resident LSP artist) to create a background for its presentation. Coming soon to a theatre near you.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a random thought here, but I was wondering if the results for the 2010 voting might be available in a little less structured format? I was thinking like a Top 5 for each year/era, just a raw number. No need to re-vote. No need to debate which show was first or fifth. I guess I'd kind of like to know what a Top 5 from each year would be. The Taping Compendiums and some other sources give lists of the "best" shows from each year, but those aren't the people posting here 9or are they?) I guess I'd just like to know!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grateful_nirvanA wrote:
Just a random thought here, but I was wondering if the results for the 2010 voting might be available in a little less structured format? I was thinking like a Top 5 for each year/era, just a raw number. No need to re-vote. No need to debate which show was first or fifth. I guess I'd kind of like to know what a Top 5 from each year would be. The Taping Compendiums and some other sources give lists of the "best" shows from each year, but those aren't the people posting here 9or are they?) I guess I'd just like to know!
Thanks.

Here you go (if less than 5, that means less than 5 unique shows were nominated within that year or the last slot(s) were multiple ties):
03/12/66
05/19/66
07/16/66
11/19/66

03/18/67
08/04/67
09/03/67
11/10/67

02/14/68
01/22/68
08/23/68
10/13/68

03/01/69
11/08/69
02/28/69
04/21/69
04/22/69

02/13/70
05/02/70
09/19/70
02/14/70
06/07/70

08/06/71
04/28/71
04/29/71
02/18/71
11/07/71

08/27/72
09/21/72
05/26/72
09/27/72
09/28/72

08/01/73
11/17/73
11/21/73
02/15/73
05/26/73

06/18/74
06/28/74
08/06/74
10/19/74
06/16/74

08/13/75
09/28/75

07/16/76
12/31/76
06/11/76
06/14/76
07/18/76

05/08/77
06/09/77
05/09/77
05/21/77
02/26/77

11/20/78
07/08/78
01/22/78
02/05/78
04/16/78

09/02/79
12/26/79
12/28/79
10/27/79
11/05/79

06/21/80
10/31/80
04/28/80
05/04/80
05/10/80

05/06/81
02/26/81
03/09/81
05/01/81
07/04/81

04/19/82
04/06/82
05/21/82
08/03/82
08/07/82

04/13/83
06/18/83
10/14/83
06/24/83
09/11/83

04/01/84
11/02/84
12/31/84
04/26/84
06/30/84

07/01/85
09/07/85
11/21/85
12/31/85
03/09/85

02/11/86
02/14/86
03/27/86
04/12/86
04/22/86

06/13/87
07/07/87
08/23/87
09/18/87
11/07/87

06/23/88
06/28/88
07/15/88
07/29/88
03/27/88

10/16/89
07/04/89
05/06/89
07/07/89
10/09/89

07/12/90
03/29/90
09/20/90
03/15/90
07/06/90

06/17/91
10/31/91
06/06/91
08/16/91
09/10/91

92-94 had a ton of 1 vote shows

02/21/95
03/23/95
04/05/95
07/06/95
07/09/95
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kochman wrote:

Here you go (if less than 5, that means less than 5 unique shows were nominated within that year or the last slot(s) were multiple ties):


Thanks! That's a great list, and a hell of a lot easier to deal with than 1,000,000 more votes and tiebreakers!!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well... there is the Top 64 list... it's pretty simplistic.
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